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Suspension won’t be removed for five-year-old grilled over cap gun who then peed his pants
dailycaller.com ^ | 6-17-2013 | Eric Owens

Posted on 06/17/2013 7:47:51 AM PDT by servo1969

School officials in Calvert County, Maryland have denied a request to expunge the suspension of the kindergartener who brought a plastic cap gun on a school bus last month and then wet his pants during a subsequent interrogation.

The refusal came in the form of a letter dated Friday, reports The Washington Post. The letter stated that the five-year-old “did bring a cap gun in his book bag.” It also charged that some other children were frightened and told school officials that they couldn’t discern if the orange-tipped cowboy-style gun was real or fake.

The unidentified kindergartener had brought the toy gun in his backpack because his friend had brought a water gun the previous day. He later told his mother that he “really, really” wanted his friend to see it. (RELATED: Kindergartener interrogated over cap gun until he pees his pants)

School officials at Dowell Elementary School in the town of Lusby proceeded to question the five-year-old for over two hours before finally calling his mother at 10:50 a.m. By that time, he had wet his pants (which the mother called highly unusual).

The Post notes that the principal — Jennifer L. Young, according to Dowell Elementary’s website — told the boy’s mother that things would have been even worse had the toy gun been loaded with caps. In that case, the school would have regarded the plaything as an explosive and called the police.

The original suspension handed down May 29 was for 10 days. After a disciplinary conference and the intervention of local attorney Robin Ficker, the suspension was reduced to three days.

School officials considered — and denied — the request to eradicate the punishment separately.

The boy’s mother (an otherwise unidentified teacher in Calvert County) expressed frustration that a seemingly serious offense for a look-alike gun will now be part of her son’s permanent record.

“I’m disappointed that we can’t bring an end to this,” she told The Post.

“Why would you do that to a five-year-old who brought an obvious toy?” the teacher added

It’s not clear how long the punishment will now remain a part of the five-year-old boy’s permanent record.

Ficker said the family will now appeal the request to expunge the suspension to the Board of Education of Calvert County.

School district officials had no comment about the decision.

The entire country has seen an epidemic of anti-gun hysteria in school settings involving things that somehow resemble guns but aren’t actually real guns. However, the state of Maryland seems to be some sort of epicenter for the phenomenon.

Last week, Anne Arundel County school district officials denied an eerily similar appeal to have Baltimore-area second-grader Joshua Welch’s suspension expunged. Welch is the eight-year-old kid who was suspended for two days in March because his teacher thought he shaped a breakfast pastry into something resembling a gun.

Earlier this year, a six-year-old boy at Roscoe R. Nix Elementary School in Silver Spring, Maryland was suspended for making the universal kid sign for a gun, pointing at another student and saying “pow.” That boy’s suspension was later lifted and his name cleared.

A Maryland state senator introduced a bill designed to curb the zeal of public school officials who are tempted to suspend students in these cases. ”The Reasonable School Discipline Act of 2013,” which was authored by Republican Sen. J. B. Jennings, apparently went nowhere in the legislature.


TOPICS: Education; Government; Local News; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; calvert; childsuspended; dowell; guncontrol; gunhysteria; maryland; pants; school; secondamendment; suspension; tolerance; tolerence; young; zero; zerotolerance
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State-sponsored child abuse.

Period.

1 posted on 06/17/2013 7:47:51 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I’d sue the school for abuse. Perhaps if you get it in the courts it might solve the problem.


2 posted on 06/17/2013 7:48:52 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: servo1969
Government schools are prison camps. Any parent who sends their kids to one is guilty of child endangerment and deserves to have CPS called on them.
3 posted on 06/17/2013 7:49:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: servo1969

Why is it when “compassion” is allowed to be the foremost concern of the ruling class the opposite almost always results?


4 posted on 06/17/2013 7:50:08 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: servo1969

Oh for the love of Mike. Just find these people when they’re out and about a slap the living crap out of them.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 7:50:09 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: servo1969

This is just so damned ridiculous.


6 posted on 06/17/2013 7:51:11 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: servo1969

” It also charged that some other children were frightened “

I call BULLSHIT! Not even the most stupid kid in the class is frightened by a toy.


7 posted on 06/17/2013 7:52:30 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: servo1969

The State wants to be the parents. Will the State come into our homes and search every corner nook and cranny in an effort to arrest us for something? The Police State of the United States


8 posted on 06/17/2013 7:53:21 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: servo1969

And people wonder why maniacs shoot their way into schools and kill teachers and administrators of this fascist crap!


9 posted on 06/17/2013 7:54:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: servo1969
I remember when ALL the kids in the neighborhood had toy guns and nobody had a problem with it.

10 posted on 06/17/2013 7:55:18 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: driftdiver

I would sue too for mental abuse. And I would name the individuals responsible in the suit.


11 posted on 06/17/2013 7:55:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: servo1969

Sue everyone in sight. Our side really has to get on the ball and bankrupt the bad guys.

No more Mr. Nice Guy.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 7:55:45 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: servo1969

Well the lefties are being consistent.

AR 15 platforms “resembles” the a real assault weapon so they get hysteric.

Toy gun “resembles” a real gun so they get hysteric.


13 posted on 06/17/2013 7:55:49 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: servo1969

Uppity boy.


14 posted on 06/17/2013 7:56:21 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: servo1969
These crazies won't stop unless there is personal pain and consequences to the school officials. The parent should sue the school, but even a win will be paid by the taxpayer. This is war and the school officials are enemy combatants. Conservative groups should investigate the background and personal lives of the school officials. Anything found should be used and publicized. It should be made plain that the same fate awaits any others who are equally loony.
15 posted on 06/17/2013 7:56:45 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: servo1969

Interesting the mom is also a public school apparatchik (can’t really call them teachers, they don’t). Wanna bet she would diligently persecute/prosecute any kid who brought a toy gun into HER class? Most liberals epitomize “do as I say, not as I do”


16 posted on 06/17/2013 7:57:33 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: servo1969

“It also charged that some other children were frightened”

BULL OBAMA! Most kids even at that age play XBOX and PS3 with first person shooter games, play with toy guns, and it has not changed for the past hundred years. Ever heard of an effing ray gun?? That’s what my 5 year old nephew was playing with before he got bored and moved to PS VITA.


17 posted on 06/17/2013 7:58:11 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Truth29

I agree. If they insist on being left wing toadies, then play dirty. Dig up all the dirt you can find on them and ruin them.


18 posted on 06/17/2013 7:58:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: MtBaldy

Interesting the mom is also a public school apparatchik
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I wonder who doesn’t like her.


19 posted on 06/17/2013 7:59:13 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: servo1969

Fear of guns is stupid, teaching fear of guns is evil. The Left survives because we stupidly allow them a false sense of moral superiority.


20 posted on 06/17/2013 7:59:22 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: skeeter
Why would anyone send their beloved children into a system so lacking in discernment, wisdom and compassion? If they can’t tell the difference between what is dangerous and what is not, then they don’t have the intelligence to be instructing anyone in anything.
21 posted on 06/17/2013 7:59:55 AM PDT by Teotwawki (For a person to get a thing without paying for it, another must pay for it without getting it.)
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To: servo1969

Why wasn’t Mom called immediately. How could they interrogate the little guy for two hours without her present.


22 posted on 06/17/2013 8:01:15 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Government schools are prison camps.

I LOL'd when I overheard a Tennessee teen refer to public schools as 'concentration camps'...the principal looked stunned when I passed the comment on to her.

23 posted on 06/17/2013 8:02:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Lurker

“Oh for the love of Mike. Just find these people when they’re out and about a slap the living crap out of them.”

I assume this creature of the State Jennifer L. Young continues to appear on the street or in the mall without any particular fear of a such a face-slapping or a well-deserved public horse-whipping.

Sad, really.


24 posted on 06/17/2013 8:02:35 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: driftdiver

There was a time when Maryland printed the state motto on their car license plates. I suppose they were in fear of being sued for false advertising. The motto” “The Free State.”


25 posted on 06/17/2013 8:03:35 AM PDT by W.Lee ("Nobody throws me my own gun and says run...nobody.")
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To: BitWielder1
I remember when ALL the kids in the neighborhood had toy guns and nobody had a problem with it.

Hell...I remember when students stored their rifles in their lockers so they could hunt small game after school...and that was in NEW YORK!

26 posted on 06/17/2013 8:04:28 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: servo1969

These kids that were “frightened” were because of the nonsense they’ve been fed by these same left wing nut jobs and their “tolerant and diverse” idiot parents.

If kids grew up in a normal environment of spit wads, cap guns, wedgies and swirlies this would’ve been nothing. Kids need to be kids. An occasional bully doesn’t hurt either. No sarc btw.


27 posted on 06/17/2013 8:04:39 AM PDT by albie
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To: who knows what evil?
...the principal looked stunned when I passed the comment on to her.

She has orders to report terrorist comments like that to the NSA.

28 posted on 06/17/2013 8:04:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: servo1969

Several years ago I was called up for jury duty. Going through jury selection for an extremely heinous kidnapping/murder trial, the prospective jurors were questioned extensively by the defense counsel about firearms, whether they owned any, their experience with shooting, etc. I was shocked that perhaps 50% of the prospective jurors didn’t own a firearm, had never held or shot a gun. Many expressed a deep, virtually neurotic fear of guns.

That appears to be an increasing phenomenon among the general public, which is under constant barrage by the media and the educational system, convincing them that guns (and apparently anything that looks like a gun) is evil.


29 posted on 06/17/2013 8:06:05 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: servo1969

But if he wanted to wear a dress, they’d be all for it.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 8:06:24 AM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: servo1969

Interesting to note who our enemies will be in the next civil war. They should surrender now to avoid stress....The mental capacity of our public education officials,and most of the teachers reflects in the children. No one who cares about their children should send them to public school anymore. Pull them out. Find another alternative folks.


31 posted on 06/17/2013 8:06:25 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: servo1969
"The Post notes that the principal — Jennifer L. Young, according to Dowell Elementary’s website — told the boy’s mother that things would have been even worse had the toy gun been loaded with caps. In that case, the school would have regarded the plaything as an explosive and called the police."

The level of stupidity contained in that reasoning can ONLY be attributed to modern higher education.
You HAVE to have been taught in a modern college to be THAT stupid.

You seriously would pick up the phone and have the police come and arrest an innocent little kindergartener for having an explosive device because he brought caps and a toy cap gun to school?!
Because it's 'policy'?
You know, "I'm just doing my job" has lead to a lot of pits filled with dead bodies throughout history.
You, madame, are a danger to the children under your supervision.
32 posted on 06/17/2013 8:08:10 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Lurker

If you slapped the sh!t out of these people, they would collapse upon themselves...


33 posted on 06/17/2013 8:08:16 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: servo1969

The folks whose children are unfortunate enough to have to attend that silly school should also not rest until the principal and superintendent are fired.

That’s as in “you’re outta here. Take your toy degree in education and do something you are mentally qualified for...such as ditch digging.”


34 posted on 06/17/2013 8:09:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: servo1969

35 posted on 06/17/2013 8:11:22 AM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: School of Rational Thought

Not only that... the school board and the teacher’s union members.... resemble teachers and THEY get hired and run our schools.
Sheer utter idiocy. And still johnny and janey can’t spell, read, or do basic math, cause the teachers themselves don’t know these things. Is it any wonder?


36 posted on 06/17/2013 8:11:29 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Quickgun

What a difference 45 years make. When I was a kid I brought my cap gun to school. We all did.

My teacher showed all of us how to properly load the caps so the caps would go theorugh gun smoothly when the trigger was pulled. Also so we didnt burn our fingers.

Now, toy water pistols result in suspension.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 8:12:52 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: marsh2
"Why wasn’t Mom called immediately. How could they interrogate the little guy for two hours without her present."

School administrators just wanted to abuse the boy.

38 posted on 06/17/2013 8:12:54 AM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: who knows what evil?

Here in Texas, we left our guns hanging in rear window gun racks in our pickup trucks in high school so we could go hunt with friends after school. Didn’t even have to worry about them being stolen, much less getting in trouble for having them.


39 posted on 06/17/2013 8:13:38 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: servo1969

Its not accidental that this is happening somewhere in America almost every day.

The schools may not take their jobs as educators very seriously but they bloody well do take their mission to brainwash your kids with the utmost of seriousness. Your kid may graduate at the end of 12 or 13 or 16 years of it a functional illiterate but he will know how to recite all the PC platitudes and how at least to pretend to believe them.

Get your kids out of public schools. Grandparents, you may have to help.


40 posted on 06/17/2013 8:14:33 AM PDT by marron
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To: EQAndyBuzz

There are two ways to beat a liberal.

1. Bankrupt them, ala Reagan.
2. Smack them on the nose with a newspaper and they will go whimpering back under the porch. ala Reagan.


41 posted on 06/17/2013 8:14:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: servo1969

This is insane (said the former Prosecutor).


42 posted on 06/17/2013 8:18:36 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: marsh2
She might have a case for the denial of the kids civil rights under color of authority.

CC

43 posted on 06/17/2013 8:22:47 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: marsh2

Did they read him the Miranda Rights and offer a lawyer?


44 posted on 06/17/2013 8:23:28 AM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: marsh2

Not to mention inflicting sufficient mental stress to force him to wet his pants OR negligent indifference to his requests to perform a basic hygenic function, thus inflicting FURTHER stress through forced violation of societal taboos.

(Yes, I’m phrasing it in such a way to attract the interest of a lawyer. . .)


45 posted on 06/17/2013 8:24:58 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"She has orders to report terrorist comments like that to the NSA."

She doesn't have to, the NSA already has a recording.

46 posted on 06/17/2013 8:29:24 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: servo1969; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; driftdiver; skeeter; E. Pluribus Unum; Lurker; 0.E.O; ...
Here you go, folks:


Principal:
Mrs. Jennifer L. Young
12680 HG Trueman Rd
Lusby, Maryland 20657
youngj@calvertnet.k12.md.us



Preferably, contact the county supervisor in charge of harassment:

Anti-sexual, Anti-racial and Anti-disability Harassment Statement

Discrimination can manifest itself in behaviors such as bullying, harassment, or intimidation of 
individuals. 
Calvert County Public Schools does not tolerate any form of harassment including, but not limited 
to, sexual, racial, or disability. Any individual (student, employee, or community member) who 
believes that he or she has been subjected to any form of harassment is encouraged to report the 
allegation of harassment. Students, parents and community members may report allegations of 
harassment to: 
Ms. Kimberly Roof, 
Executive Director of Administration 
Calvert County Public Schools 
1305 Dares Beach Road 
Prince Frederick, MD 20678
http://www.calvertnet.k12.md.us/utilities/feedback/feedback.asp

Calvert County Public Schools is committed to conducting a prompt investigation for any allegation 
of harassment. If harassment has occurred, the individual will be disciplined promptly. Disciplinary 
actions for students found to have engaged in any form of harassment may result in suspension or 
expulsion. Disciplinary actions for employees found to have engaged in any form of harassment 
may result in suspension or termination. 

Calvert County Public Schools encourages all students, parents, employees, and community 
members to work together to prevent any form of harassment.

47 posted on 06/17/2013 8:36:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: servo1969
To me they're not so much concerned about the gun but more interested in indoctrinating the child on the power of the state. Start them at an early age like they do in North Korea, so when they grow into adults they act like this.......... especially in presence of The Dear Leader...


48 posted on 06/17/2013 8:36:55 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I call BULLSHIT! Not even the most stupid kid in the class is frightened by a toy.

No, but kids love to manipulate gullible adults. If these sneaky brats could get capital punishment for a five year old through clever acting, we'd finally have an alleged crime for which Maryland's liberals would support the death penalty.

49 posted on 06/17/2013 8:37:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: servo1969

“It’s not clear how long the punishment will now remain a part of the five-year-old boy’s PERMAMENT record. “

I think the reporter needs to spend a little time in the Principals office over that sentence.


50 posted on 06/17/2013 8:38:29 AM PDT by Hulka
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