Skip to comments.Priests Demand Pelosi Renounce Catholicism After Abortion is “Sacred Ground” Comment
Posted on 06/20/2013 3:55:11 PM PDT by Morgana
House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosis comments that defending late-term abortions is sacred ground to her was apparently the last straw for a national organization of Catholic priests active in pro-life work.
As a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I dont think it should have anything to do with politics, she continued saying about the bill to ban late-term abortions after 20 weeks.
In an open letter to Pelosi, Priests for Life says her comments make a mockery of the Catholic faith.
With this statement, you make a mockery of the Catholic faith and of the tens of millions of Americans who consider themselves practicing and respectful Catholics and who find the killing of children whether inside or outside the womb reprehensible, the letter says.
You speak here of Catholic faith as if it is supposed to hide us from reality instead of lead us to face reality, as if it is supposed to confuse basic moral truths instead of clarify them, and as if it is supposed to help us escape the hard moral questions of life rather than help us confront them, Father Frank Pavone continues in the letter. Whatever Catholic faith you claim to respect and practice, it is not the faith that the Catholic Church teaches. And I speak for countless Catholics when I say that its time for you to stop speaking as if it were.
Abortion is not sacred ground; it is sacrilegious ground. To imagine God giving the slightest approval to an act that dismembers a child he created is offensive to both faith and reason, the letter adds. And to say that a question about the difference between a legal medical procedure and murder should not have anything to do with politics reveals a profound failure to understand your own political responsibilities, which start with the duty to secure the God-given right to life of every citizen.
The letter from Pavone concludes: Mrs. Pelosi, for decades you have gotten away with betraying and misrepresenting the Catholic faith as well as the responsibilities of public office. We have had enough of it. Either exercise your duties as a public servant and a Catholic, or have the honesty to formally renounce them.
During the press conference, in response to a reporters question, Pelosi was upset to be asked about the gruesome abortions and infanticides done by Kermit Gosnell and indicated she opposes the bill the House approved to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. Pelosi falsely called the bill a ban on all abortions.
They would make it a federal law that there would be no abortion in our country, Pelosi said.
Maureen Ferguson, Senior Policy Advisor for The Catholic Association, blasted Pelosis comments in an email to LifeNews:
After witnessing firsthand the atrocious human rights abuses taking place inside Americas late-term abortion clinics it is amazing that this did not touch Nancy Pelosis heart. What we learned from the Gosnell trial and what we understand is going on inside other clinics is not only human rights abuse but it also puts women in harms way. The only difference between the Gosnell after-birth abortions and legal late-term abortions is the location of the baby at the time of death. And contrary to Pelosis extreme claim that the Franks bill is disrespectful to women, the majority of women are opposed to late-term abortions according to a recent Gallup poll.
As The Weekly Standard first reported, below is the video of Pelosis remarks:
Pelosi has never been a Catholic. She is a Satanist through and through.
Liberals think they can say just anything at any time, and bear no consequences. At least some members of the Catholic priesthood are finally awaking from their Democrat coma and standing up to this foul witch on behalf of the Church they are supposed to represent.
Fr. Pavone is sadly a LONE voice....her BISHOP and PRIEST need to contact her....although in reality, she has EX-communicated herself from the Church. If she doesn’t REPENT, there’s only one place for her to go or eternity.
The fact that he spoke up makes her bishop look really bad. I am glad one priest is at least saying what needed to be said long ago.
Oh, so TRUE!!!
It will be interesting to see if the Church has the guts to excommunicate her.
Maybe, the new Pope will order, absolutely order ex-communication of these murderers of babies who profess to be Catholics.
Paging Pope No-Hypocrisy Francis....
Opposition to abortion is not (just) founded on Church teachings. It is about the natural law - the very being and essence of all humans. The Church did not invent opposition to abortion, it comes from the essence of being human.
Liberalism is the denial of human nature.
It is the sacred and historic duty of the Bishops to excommunicate heretics. This vile women and others like her who acquiesce to the wanton killing of innocent human life must be formally excommunicated. The bishops lack of action is confusing to the faithful and damages the moral standing of the Church.
She's an old lady and it won't be long before she has to face her maker. I want to see what happens when she gives Him one of her flip comments on abortion.
Seriously? Hell no they don't.
There will be no response from the respectful katholick to this letter.
In fact, I predict she exercises her free will and excommunicates the Pope.
Pelosi should be very publicly excommunicated. Her Bishop should break out the old bell, book and candle ritual where the bishop rings a bell to evoke a death toll, closes a holy book to symbolize the ex-communicant’s separation from the church, and snuffs out a candle knocking it to the floor to represent the target’s soul being extinguished and removed from the light of God.
Almost every Catholic I talk with, on this subject, says she has excommunicated herself by her stand on abortion.
To me this is complacency at best, and implies that no one has to say anything more about it, much less DO anything about it.
She’s excommunicated. Done, by definition.
Well, I’m a different sort of Catholic, then.
You are right
Abortion and many of the policies of the left violate Natural Law as well as economic principles.
That is why I say you cannot argue with them logically. They follow an internal logic that is believed by presumption. They are irrational and the opposite of irrationality is not reason but force.
I do not like the implications of that statement but it appears to be the truth
I am not a Roman Catholic, but was raised in the Anglican Catholic faith (just so you know where I am coming from).
Now, consider myself unaffiliated - an “unchurched” Christian.
We only need to follow Him, read what He teaches us in the Bible, and take an honest inventory of our personal failures, and feel very deep personal grief that we have failed, and always will, to reach perfection, as He has taught.
We must ignore those who use His Name in vain, to glorify themselves as associated with a particular “sect”.
We should pray for Nancy Pelosi’s soul, for she has no real understanding of true faith. She is a Catholic In Name Only. (a CINO), and we should pray for the salvation of her soul.
She knows not what she does. But, those of us us who are also struggling with our own failures do not need to ignore hers. We must pray for her as we do ourselves, for we all have failed in His eyes.
Let us pray that He opens everyones’ eyes, and that His will be done on earth, as in heaven, and that we keep on fighting, while remembering that we are not perfect, either,
I gather it is an offense in Catholicism to falsely excommunicate another. However, were Catholics to get a group of non-Catholics to follow Pelosi around, performing mock ex-communications of her while wearing clerical garb, if nothing else it would make for amusing street theater.
Go for the whole bell, book, and candle thing. Maybe it would “rustle her jimmies”.
OH YES SHE DOES!!!
Pray for her all you like. But never, ever fool yourself into thinking she doesn't know EXACTLY what she's doing.
Unless and until the Church publicly and loudly excommunicates these bloody bucthers and denies them any sacraments, I won’t hold my breath.
The Church’s sin of looking the other way in a cowardly fashion is huge in this case.
The Church gets bad publicity anyway, so why not go for it and throw these people out of the church and threaten to excommunicate immediately any and all clergy who give these Satan worshipers the sacraments.
I like Father Pavone a lot, but nothing’s going to come of this.
There are plenty of priests around who’ll give them all the consecrated Host they want.
That would give me the warm and fuzzies.
The problem is each time she speaks this evil lie it turns her heart away from GOD and any guidance from The Holy Spirit until her heart hardens to the point it hears no more. Then it is too late.
Pelosi saying she’s Catholic is like some lying looser in a bar bragging that he was a Navy Seal.
What the Hell?
They should DENOUNCE HER!
After she's been excommunicated, she should be exorcized.
Anyone going to Communion with the sin of abortion on them is asking for it. The Bishops show her no mercy by letting her receive. There will be lots of folks answering for this one day.
The idea is that they should suffer the consequences sooner rather than later, that they be made an example to those like them.
Faux excommunications to her would be like tying a string of tin cans to the tail of a bad dog. Everywhere she went, the rattle of her hypocrisy would follow.
All priests are pro-life. This group is like a Catholic Order where the priests dedicate their lives to spreading the pro-life message. According to their websight, one of the goals of the "order" is to "insure that clergy of all denominations become more united, purposeful, and strong, so that those who promote the culture of death will not get away with what they are trying to do." Just like doctors, lawyers, and engineers, many priests specialize in a specific field. Priests for Life specialize in pro-life advocacy.
Indeed. However, I now see that it is more amazing to believe that Nancy Peelousy even has a heart.
She leads His children astray with her beliefs and claims to the Catholic seal of approval, so I am encouraged to read of the Priests' demands.
How can her actions be tolerated without correction or be explained to the One who loves His children most of all?
Who in the Church's power structure has put their god before Him?
Do you forget His teaching?
That we don’t point out the splinters in another’s eye, while ignoring the beam in our own?
Please understand that I do not consider NP having only a splinter, (I think she has a beam, and might be in danger of judgement, but it isn’t mine to to render, but His.
So, I pray for all of us who are fallen in sin, each in our own different way. It is up to NP to seek salvation for her own soul.
If she repents, (publicly, I hope) blessings be upon her. If she doesn’t, I will still pray for her, as I do for myself. This is what we are told to do.
None of us measure up to His mark, and we cannot feel better about ourselves by taking comfort that we are less sinful in our own eyes than those we condemn.
That was my point. Don’t ignore her sin, but don’t fail to ignore your own. We all fall short of the mark.
There is no wrong in pointing out wickedness, sinful betrayals of His word, human violations of sacred truth, twisting these to what ever pleases the masses who want their own way - but we should never be smug, just because we haven’t succumbed to that particular wicked sin.
We have our own weaknesses and failures to consider. How do we know how we will be judged for those?
Just saying... we live in a fallen world, and none of us survive without making a mess of it, in some way or another. I do not mean we shouldn’t fight against giving in to the worst.
We must fight that, the worst, call it as soon as we see it, and defend His truth as we know it, but it is His to judge, so we must pray for those who succumb to the dark side, that before they die, they plead for forgiveness for their own failures, and for the harm they have done to others, in their own self-interest.
Does this make any sense? I have no clue, as I think we are now living in a dark night of our souls, surrounded by those we have elected, but who have lost their way. They are doing their best to take us down, to enervate our beliefs, to demand our acquiescence.
But, they cannot rule our hearts and our faith. Gutenberg changed that for all time. It is up to us to read, make our own choices, and make our own confessions.
Yeah, the contemporary form of excommunication, or lack thereof, really doesn't hold a candle (pun intended) to the older manner of excommunication. The old rite of excommunication really underscores the seriousness of the spiritual plight which the sinner is in when the bishop publicly declares before the altar:
"Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive N-- himself and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment."