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To: Jeff Chandler

I would not say that all this espionage should be stopped, along with a lot of other government security activities, but it should be *rationalized*.

At the basic level think of it as this: Just because blacks in America were oppressed as recently as 50 years ago, does not mean that “profiling” is intolerable. If done in a rational manner, it is very acceptable and efficient. The government and the courts must learn to accept this concept.

Right now, terrorism in the world is almost exclusively Muslim in origin. To pretend otherwise is madness. Therefore, while the vast majority of Muslims do not commit acts of terrorism, ALL must suffer the consequences of the bad behavior of some.

In truth, there was nothing wrong during World War II, in the US “profiling” Japanese, Germans, and Italians in the US, *except* that it did not do so rationally, but hatefully. Had Japanese-Americans, German-Americans, and Italian-Americans behaved appropriately, in word and deed, they should have no longer been suspect, unless their activities were so intertwined with those of our enemies as to utterly tarnish them.

Now this being said, the overwhelmingly vast number of Muslims in the world live in other countries. Only a very tiny number permanently reside in the US. Thus our options are very clear:

1) Prohibit further entry of Muslims to the US, except under close surveillance and for limited purposes. Overstaying a visa should result in prompt and permanent expulsion, because we knew where they were.

2) Keep Muslims in the US under supervision. This does not have to be oppressive, just intrusive. Legitimate, since by their “membership” in Islam, they are inherently suspect. Importantly, this involves only “words and deeds” considered threatening. Otherwise what they say and do is unimportant.

Granted, the problems with the US are not limited to Muslims, however, so in all fairness, other groups that deserve heightened scrutiny should include:

Chinese, with an emphasis on preventing military and industrial espionage. This is so widespread and enormous in the US today, yet receives so little attention from our intelligence agencies, that it is scandalous.

Likewise, other foreign intelligence agencies, of our enemies, and our friends, and others, as well as commercial activities, are vigorously spying on the US. This too, should be a priority of our intelligence services.

However, it is indicative of slothful inefficiency that our intelligence agencies are spying on peaceful American citizens in their daily lives. That they are ignoring rational intelligence gathering in favor of stupid minutiae is damning of their performance.

That they are technologically able to do so is no defense, as those technologies should be directed at our enemies, not us.

As such, they need vigorous reform. We are not the enemy, nor are we puppets for them to voyeuristically think they control, or whatever weird fantasies they are indulging in.


5 posted on 06/24/2013 8:30:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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However, it is indicative of slothful inefficiency that our intelligence agencies are spying on peaceful American citizens in their daily lives.

To me, it is indicative of enemies, domestic.

6 posted on 06/24/2013 11:47:30 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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