Posted on 07/12/2013 7:27:07 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
Yeppers, and all that time since the construction of the fort following the war of 1812 there were no Federal troops in fort Sumter.
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The notion that Lincoln was either Communist or progressive is absurd in the extreme.
So bombarding the crap out of a place for over 24 hours is defined as 'eviction'? Really?
The South started the war. The South lost the war. Cry me a river.
If you mean that federal troops had been led out at the point of a bayonet while Southern authorities stole every piece of federal property that could get their mitts on, then yes.
Those Union troops who stayed behind at Ft Sumter were on foreign soil.
They were on the property of the federal government.
There was no agreement about diplomatic missions, embassies, or anything else between the Union and the Confederacy, so the land and the buildings were clearly NOT Union possessions of any kind.
If there were no agreements then I assume that means there were no negotiations about the disposition of the property, much less an offer to pay for it?
The troops there were squatters at best, who refused to leave after repeated peaceful requests and efforts to remove them.
They were army soldiers manning their post.
At some point, law enforcement will use force to remove those who refuse to comply.
By bombarding it to pieces?
Yeah, the fort built itself.
I think celmak was being facetious in response to a truly idiotic comment.
The Nazis didn’t take power from a broken Germany. The Weimar Republic caused inflation (printing money rather than cutting government or raising taxes) and ended it before the Nazis took power. During the time of high inflation Germany was not terribly poor, and in fact was rather prosperous as its monetary inflation made its products very attractive to foreign nations.
The Bolsheviks in Russia came to power because Germany defeated Russia in WWI. If they had defeated France and Britain, they would have put in similar governments into France and Britain.
I love the way Lincoln idolators say things like that with absolutely no argument to back it up. Lincoln is the state religion. No proof necessary. No disproof considered.
The trail of tears was in part due to cooperation of members of the various tribe that saw the movement to Oklahoma as a means to gain more political power.
“Each Choctaw head of a family being desirous to remain and become a citizen of the States, shall be permitted to do so, by signifying his intention to the Agent within six months from the ratification of this Treaty, and he or she shall thereupon be entitled to a reservation of one section of six hundred and forty acres of land, to be bounded by sectional lines of survey; in like manner shall be entitled to one half that quantity for each unmarried child which is living with him over ten years of age; and a quarter section to such child as may be under 10 years of age, to adjoin the location of the parent. If they reside upon said lands intending to become citizens of the States for five years after the ratification of this Treaty, in that case a grant in fee simple shall issue; said reservation shall include the present improvement of the head of the family, or a portion of it.”
Extract, treaty of dancing rabbit creek.
Or if you prefer, it happened because of the Kaiser’s military success against Russia.
After the German military success, they were able to put in a government that was well disposed to German interests, and that was the Bolsheviks.
Ft Sumter was not on South Carolina soil. Where is was had never been South Carolina soil. Rather it was built on a shoal, and its foundations were provided by granite shipped from MA and NY, at the expense of the US government.
Since Communist or Progressive notions were invented AFTER Lincoln was murdered, it seems pretty obvious that Lincoln could not have been a Communist or a Progressive.
Unless you have that darned time machine in your pocket.
Marx’s notions of communism were derived from his poor understanding of a southern plantation economy. That would make Jeff Davis more the inspiration for Marx than Lincoln.
Stop the nonsense already. No one died during the demonstration against Fort Sumter. A couple of Yankees did get killed during a flag lowering ceremony because their Yankee made cannon exploded. But the "attack" on Fort Sumter was just an affair of honor. South Carolina fired shots into the walls while the occupants held out until an appropriate time had passed. Then they surrendered and were allowed to leave peacefully and go home.
Ft Sumter was not built on South Carolina soil. It was built on a shoal, and its foundations were laid on stone brought by the US government from NY and MA.
So if anything, it was built on NY and MA soil.
BM
I love the way Lost Cause Liberals commit multiple logical fallacies in a single sentence. Brava!
I've been reading your hilarious posts on this thread. You just make this stuff up as you go along don't you.
Communism predates Lincoln by two thousand years. Secular Communism predates Lincoln by about seventy years. Progressivism is the culmination of a set of policies Lincoln supported and was made possible by policies he enacted.
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