Posted on 07/21/2013 7:12:12 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
What really made Zimmerman suspicious of Martin:
CVSA, 25:36 Quote:
Zimmerman: And, I was leaving my neighborhood when I saw this guy, walking slowly in front of a house, looking towards the house. And I knew he didn't live there, so that made me a little suspicious. And then he kept staring around him, at me, and behind. And it arose my suspicion. And then he was, it was raining. And, he didn't look like he was in a rush to get out the rain.....
I think this is the first explicit statement that GZ knew that TM didn't live in the house that he was in front of when GZ first saw him.
SPD 2/29-1, 4:36-53 Quote:
Zimmerman: Two or three weeks prior to that, I'd seen somebody looking in a window of the house that he was in front of.
Serino: Was he white or black?
Zimmerman: Black.
Serino: OK.
Zimmerman: And, the guy that lives there, I know, he's active in the neighborhood watch, and he's Caucasian.
GZ told the story of his 2/2/12 NEN call in more detail, and a little more accurately, than he had previously (45/47 of the logs). He called because he saw a black male showing an interest in 1460 Retreat View Cir., which GZ hadn't mentioned in the earlier interviews. When the police arrived the man had left. The police found all the windows and the garage door open, and the front door unlocked. GZ gave them the owner's phone number, and they got his consent to enter and secure the house.
SPD 2/29-1, 7:41-54 Quote:
Zimmerman: So when I saw him, in the same area, in front of the guy's house that I know [unintelligible] had been unsecured, and he was looking into the house, I just thought something doesn't fit right here.
SPD 2/29-1, 8:03-53 Quote:
Serino: What did you see Trayvon doing, that caught you as being suspicious?
Zimmerman: He was looking at the house, intently. And then -
Serino: What, the same house?
Zimmerman: The same house that, yeah, that had, I had called about before. [Crosstalk] the window.
Serino: Did he stop, did he - ?
Zimmerman: He stopped.
Serino: In front of the house?
Zimmerman: He stopped in front of the house. And then, I drove, there was a car, like, backing up, so I, I slowed down. And then I drove around him. And he kept looking at me. And then when I passed, oh, it was raining. And then I said, you know what, he's not walking briskly, to get out of the rain. He wasn't, he didn't look like a marathon runner that is active, in like, you know, that trains in the rain. He was just walking slowly [unintelligible] the grass and onto the sidewalk. And I said "Something's off." So, that's why I called non-emergency...................
he describes him as “this guy”. Not “this black guy”. Since it was dark, raining and TM was wearing a hoodie, I’ve wondered if Zimmerman really knew what race he was.
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I made a similar id call to police around July 1st, early a.m. with bad lighting ,, teens breaking into cars ,, same scenario , I was no more than 50 feet away and couldn’t give the police race info , just clothing and height... turned out 2 black kids and 1 white kid. GZ saw Trayvon at twilight/sundown , it was late winter and it gets dark quickly.
The townhouse belonged to Frank Taffe who Zimmerman knew.
It is entirely possible that the 3 stooges at the 7 Eleven were the ones trying to burglarize Taffe’s house that night 2 weeks earlier.
The SPD should have found the 3 stooges and fingerprinted the inside of their vehicle to find out if Martin had been in it that night as they were probably the ones who dropped him off there that night after a little blunt smoking. The car that Zimmerman saw backing up was probably theirs.
Someone at the SPD had to know about these 3 and covered it up — probably the same people there who were passing information about the investigation to Tracey Martin and Ben Crump.
There is a follow up tape that shows that as he was leaving 3 stooges come in with hoodies up as well and go through their routine.
Thanks for this. Adding it to my keepers.
The type of burglary that Martin was up to is very common among young blacks in Florida. They peer through a window looking for stuff left on a dresser or a night-table (a watch, jewelry, even pocket change) and then get into the house - often through an unlocked door - sweep the stuff into their pockets, and take off again. Martin was obviously in the habit of doing this in Miami, since the stolen property they found in his backpack at school was typical of dresser-top stuff: a watch, some rings, etc. It’s an easy and generally safe form of burglary, and while they don’t get a huge haul, they get enough to make it worth their while.
I guess the only thing to be thankful for is that the burglars usually are looking for unoccupied houses and aren’t planning on sticking up the homeowner, although sometimes it turns out that the homeowner is there and things get violent.
An artist in Jacksonville was killed when a thug got into her house, thinking it was empty, and walked into the kitchen where she was quietly about to start preparing lunch. She was holding a knife in her hand, and she turned around and screamed when she saw him; he grabbed the knife, and while they were fighting, he stabbed her (he said it was an accident).
“The pro TM whites are more motivated by their discomfort of gunowners. Once the MSM made it into white CCW kills little black kid with soda and candy, it fits their notion of guns should be banned, and God forbid carried. For them, it fits their narrative that CCW will sooner or later get some innocent person killed because some CCW over reacted.”
I don’t think that fits all TM whites. My next-door neighbor was fawning and whining about that poor innocent kid....and she’s a Christian conservative who’s husband has so many guns he needed a gunsafe for them. Not a one-size-fits-all explanation. I chalk it up to sheer ignorance and stupidity. Enough to actually believe what ANY of the mainstream media outlets feed them.
Then again, it could have been her daughter’s influence...who has a 20-something year old son IN PRISON. Perhaps she ‘relates’ to Trayvon because of that. I don’t know for sure.
I’ve wondered if Zimmerman himself owned a hoodie - after all, they are not just worn by young blacks. I’d love to have a genuine pic of Z in a hoodie, to refute the lie that it was only the hoodie that made him suspicious.
Everyone that cares to know the truth knows (and so do many who don’t want to know). GZ is just regular guy caught up in race baiting politics.
...the Five’s Bob Beckel doesn’t know that...apparently...
George Zimmerman Sanford Police Interview [Lie Detector/Polygraph]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRp-vIvTNg#t=25m36s
at 25:36
These would be whites who have never known the joy of working with black youts. They're making prejudicial judgements.
“I admit, he was lucky to have a fair-minded and honest police chief.”
You mean, the one (Bill Lee) that was fired for being fair-minded and honest?
Give me the before and after burglaries at this complex.
Nuff said.
“I don’t know your neighbor’s age, but a lot of seniors are totally reliant on - and trustful of - the MSM evening news for their information.”
She’s about 66 now, and she doesn’t go outside of the house except to go out to eat....which she does A LOT. But she supposedly knows better than to believe what is coming from the MSM. I’m starting to think it may have been more influence from her daughter now. But I guarantee you if anyone in her family suffers any ‘personal’ backlash from the racial instigators, she’ll change her tune fast enough.
One such white sympathizer is Mary Poehnelt, one of the two finalists on Hell’s Kitchen this season. She posted a pic of herself in a hoodie and the link to the NAACP’s petition in support of St. Skittles. She seemed to be the underdog this year so I was rooting for her. After this, no way.
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This is his interview with police? First time I have seen it, thanks for posting. No wonder it was ignored by media outlets.
It was his behavior that made his HS suspicious of him when he was found sneaking around an area he wasn’t supposed to be in and ended up getting in trouble over some graffiti.
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