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Are You Smarter Than An 8th Grader From 1912? (Here's a picture of an 8th grade examination in 1912)
Zero Hedge ^ | 07/30/2013 | Jim Quinn

Posted on 07/30/2013 8:16:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform blog,

Yes. The national intelligence has fallen that far. The morons in West Philly can't spell 'Cat'. At least 75% wouldn’t know the Vice President of the U.S.. More than 50% can't add 5 + 5. And 80% wouldn't know when and why the Civil War was fought.



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1 posted on 07/30/2013 8:16:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Next time you are at a thrift/junk store and find a high school textbook from 1910....look at the thing. You’ll fall over with what kids of those days were expected to know or at least were taught. It’s probably at least 4 years advanced over what’s taught today. Latin, calculus.


2 posted on 07/30/2013 8:19:39 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both parties are trying to elect a new PEOPLE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

considering only 6 out of 27 people can properly answer the question: “what is 10% of $18” (personal survey of 20-30 year olds)...

i highly doubt 1% of today’s students could pass this exam


3 posted on 07/30/2013 8:22:15 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a typo for endeavor, spelling it “eneeavor”.

Further evidence that public school educrats have sucked at their jobs for over 100 years.


4 posted on 07/30/2013 8:22:29 AM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: SeekAndFind

Holy Cow, Batman. This would take most of today’s 8th graders to task.


5 posted on 07/30/2013 8:23:37 AM PDT by lesko
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I have a one room schoolhouse text book from around 1895 (covers multiple grades).

The progressives demon masters must be very pleased with them...


6 posted on 07/30/2013 8:23:38 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: SeekAndFind

If today’s college students had the knowledge to answer even half of those questions, then they would have been smart enough not to vote for Baraq Obama.


7 posted on 07/30/2013 8:25:10 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: SeekAndFind

The answer to your question is NO! LOL!


8 posted on 07/30/2013 8:25:17 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: lesko

CIVIL GOVERNMENT.... Do we even teach that in school anymore?


9 posted on 07/30/2013 8:25:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly that 8th grade math section is a H*LL of a lot easier than what my son learned in his 8th grade four years ago in a public middle school. The other sections might have been tougher (I doubt the Science part is any tougher too) but that math stuff was a joke if that is considered rigorous.


10 posted on 07/30/2013 8:26:12 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“Decline I”. I’ll wager that less than 0.1% of society understands why that is even on a test, and even less can do it.


11 posted on 07/30/2013 8:26:24 AM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fascinating, thanks for posting this.

When I was a kid, I loved the Little House on the Prairie books (took place in the 1800s,) and the Anne of Green Gables books (turn of the century.) You can tell just from reading those books how much harder school was in those days.

Now I know teachers who can’t spell worth a lick. I knew one who insisted that “alot” was correct. Then she finally admitted it wasn’t, but said, “Well, the kids just can’t learn it, so we let them spell it wrong.” It’s too hard nowadays, just too much to expect that students remember “a lot” is supposed to be two words.

We are hurtling toward “Idiocracy” at great speed.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 8:28:55 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe, just not the right answers. Especially for question 8.


13 posted on 07/30/2013 8:29:07 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: noprogs
There is a typo for endeavor, spelling it “eneeavor”.

Further evidence that public school educrats have sucked at their jobs for over 100 years.

If you don't like the spelling on this test you can walk right out your dodr and talk to the Presdent.

14 posted on 07/30/2013 8:29:55 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What? This is culturally skewed!! There’s nothing on there about how to put on a rubber!


15 posted on 07/30/2013 8:29:58 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: lesko

Most of the questions would task us, adults! Today! Some of the history questions we don’t talk about or ever learned in school


16 posted on 07/30/2013 8:30:51 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: SeekAndFind
Ahh, but by focusing only on academic subjects those poor "Neanderthal children" were deprived of learning about essential social issues such as:

Economic "justice"
Social "justice"
Environmental "justice"
Homosexual "rights"
Reproductive "rights"
"SIX HIRB" (sexism; islamophobia; xenophobia; homophobia; intolerance; racism; bigotry)
etc.
etc.

17 posted on 07/30/2013 8:35:43 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: SeekAndFind

School is about learning how to learn....not
just learning “stuff”. The test is “junk”.


18 posted on 07/30/2013 8:41:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s exactly the argument most public school in NYC give today.


19 posted on 07/30/2013 8:44:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Next time you are at a thrift/junk store and find a high school textbook from 1910....look at the thing. You’ll fall over with what kids of those days were expected to know or at least were taught. It’s probably at least 4 years advanced over what’s taught today. Latin, calculus.

I know; a lot of today's generations are held back by the idea that that's too advanced for them — which happens to be only skimmed over in college, if there.

If I were building a from-the-ground-up curriculum I think I'd include calculus by age 12, and be sure to start several foreign (non Indo-European languages like Japanese and Basque) languages very early. [As an aside, I think it would be interesting to teach them five languages: one for each of the other word-orders than English's subject-verb-object, but I digress.] Computers should be, for the most part prohibited for normal coursework until they are 10 or 1; math and reading should be pushed heavily..

Programming should be taught, but I think there should be a particular order/method w/ certain languages:

  1. Basic programming concepts & principles taught (Language: Ada).
  2. All intermediate courses would also be in Ada, culminating in compiler/interpreter constructions. (Students would have a common set of spec files and have to write the bodies.)
  3. One of the above interpreters would be LISP, the algorithms class would be taught in LISP and students would use their own interpreters.
There's a few more ideas, but it basically revolves around (a) starting off teaching them in a good well-designed language, and (b) making them use the things they build.
20 posted on 07/30/2013 8:45:09 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

INCREDIBLE!No wonder we’re in such a MESS!What are kids taught today aside from America is EVIL and “Man-Caused Global-Warming”????????????????


21 posted on 07/30/2013 8:45:29 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Sacajaweau

School is about learning how to learn....not
just learning “stuff”. The test is “junk”.


That sounds good until you think about it. It is modern education mumbo jumbo.

Memorization is still a very important education tool. I am more impressed with older people with 3rd grade education than I am with phd’s.


22 posted on 07/30/2013 8:46:03 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: OneWingedShark

RE: Basic programming concepts & principles taught (Language: Ada).

Why ADA and not Java? Very few businesses use ADA anymore. Use Java and they’ll be employable by the time they reach high school.


23 posted on 07/30/2013 8:47:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I know this is an almost monthly posting of this test by people whom seem to never see the previous 18 times it was, but do we have some records on how many kids actually passed this back then rather then the usual 299 posts about stupid everyone in the country is for not knowing all the answers?


24 posted on 07/30/2013 8:47:28 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

Bullitt county—one of the adjacent counties south of Louisville, KY.


25 posted on 07/30/2013 8:47:54 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Answer key?


26 posted on 07/30/2013 8:47:58 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow — today’s teacher would require a half and hour to explain each question to their class.


27 posted on 07/30/2013 8:50:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: KarlInOhio
There is a typo for endeavor, spelling it “eneeavor”.

Further evidence that public school educrats have sucked at their jobs for over 100 years.

If you don't like the spelling on this test you can walk right out your dodr and talk to the Presdent.

May or may not have been the fault of the writer.

There were no computers or word processors or electronic type setters in that era.

The type setter was often paid piecework and was always in a rush.

He was setting each letter, backwards for the press.

28 posted on 07/30/2013 8:50:54 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep ‘em dumb, and they’ll fall for anything ... even voting for Obama.


29 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:36 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, but they wouldn’t know where Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Inchon, or Khe Sahn were or who fought in them.


30 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:42 AM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe)
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To: VanDeKoik

I don’t know the answer to that, but if someone is asking this question :

Are You Smarter Than Your Grandfather? Probably Not.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Are-You-Smarter-Than-Your-Grandfather-Probably-Not-181842991.html

EXCERPT:

In the mid-1980s, James Flynn made a groundbreaking discovery in human intelligence. The political scientist at the University of Otago in New Zealand found that over the last century, in every nation in the developing world where intelligence-test results are on record, IQ test scores had significantly risen from one generation to the next.


31 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: sten

I could not pass that test ever.


32 posted on 07/30/2013 8:52:30 AM PDT by todoasonewants
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RE: Yeah, but they wouldn’t know where Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Inchon, or Khe Sahn were or who fought in them.

That’s like asking Julius Caesar who won the American Civil War, the North or the South.


33 posted on 07/30/2013 8:52:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: VanDeKoik
We used mostly books from the 1840s to 1880s when we homeschooled our kids.

They didn't have to "get" it all to be way ahead of kids today.

34 posted on 07/30/2013 8:53:31 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Sacajaweau
School is about learning how to learn....not just learning “stuff”. The test is “junk”.

How do we know if someone has learned how to learn? Isn't it necessary to demonstrate your ability to learn by actually learning? Doesn't this test do that? Doesn't the content of the test represent useful and practical knowledge?

35 posted on 07/30/2013 8:53:51 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: sten

RE: considering only 6 out of 27 people can properly answer the question: “what is 10% of $18” (personal survey of 20-30 year olds)...

How are these people ever going to know whether an investment they made is losing or making money?


36 posted on 07/30/2013 8:53:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

High-school exam for 12th graders living in the hood.

1. Duane has an AK47 with a 30 round clip. If he misses 6 out of 10 shots and shoots 13 times at each drive by shooting, how many drive by shootings can he attempt before he has to reload?

2. If Jose has two ounces of cocaine and he sells an 8 ball to Jackson for $320 and 2 grams to Billy for $85 per gram, what is the street value of the balance of the cocaine if he doesn’t cut it?

3. Rufus is pimping for three girls. If the price is $65 for each trick, how many tricks will each girl have to turn so Rufus can pay for his $800 per day crack habit?

4. Jarome wants to cut his 1/2 pound of Heroin to make 20% more profit. How many ounces of cut will he need?

5. Willie gets $200 for stealing a BMW, $50 for a Chevy and $100 for a 4x4. If he has stolen 2 BMW’s and 3 4x4’s, how many Chevy’s will he have to steal to make $800?

6. Raoul is in prison for 6 years for murder. He got $10,000 for the hit. If his common law wife is spending $100 per month, how much money will he have left when he gets out of prison and how many years will he get for killing her since she spent his money?

7. If the average spray paint can covers 22 square feet and the average letter is 3 square feet, how many letters can a tagger spray with 3 cans of paint?

8. Hector knocked up six girls in his gang. There are 27 girls in the gang. What percentage of the girls in the gang has Hector knocked up?


37 posted on 07/30/2013 8:54:50 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: PeterPrinciple

Just the opposite....Leaning how to learn is memorization and repetition. The new teaching world is machines and “freedom”.


38 posted on 07/30/2013 8:55:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

and name “two rights denied the Congress” by the Constitution.

most journalists today wouldn’t even understand the question.

sadly, this exam implies general learning far beyond that of the average B.A. degreed student of today, let alone the average public high schooler. how far we have fallen.


39 posted on 07/30/2013 8:56:26 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: sten

“i highly doubt 1% of today’s students could pass this exam”

Then you won’t be surprised that most of the applicants for our overseas marketing position couldn’t even spell ‘definitely’ on our spelling test. Yes, they did spell it with an a’. Even a Harvard grad.


40 posted on 07/30/2013 8:57:23 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Sacajaweau

Teaching Math In 1950

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1960

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1970

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is $80. Did he make a profit?

Teaching Math In 1980

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20 Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

Teaching Math In 2000

A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the
preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers.)

Teaching Math In 2013

Un ranchero vende una carretera de maderapara $100. El cuesto de la
produccion era $80. Cuantos tortillas se puede comprar?


41 posted on 07/30/2013 8:58:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

that assumes they’d ever make an investment

they won’t

the generation raised in the 90s has no expectation of self sufficiency. they fully expect the govt to take care of them as long as they perform like a properly functioning cog in their menial labor job

they were raised to be socialist drones


42 posted on 07/30/2013 8:59:59 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can always tell, on these types of threads, which Freepers “just don’t test well” by the semi-hostile tone of their answers.


43 posted on 07/30/2013 9:00:55 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Ephesians 6:12 becomes more real to me with each news cycle.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

John Dewey (1930) removed all the Classical Education and Virtue (Excellence) on purpose. DOE made it National—in all states.

He was a socialist whose friends were Communists and Fabian Socialists like John Maynard Keynes—they guy who bragged about his homosexual orgies with boys. Dewey wanted “Progress”——believed in evolution—in Utopia—where you remove Traditions and Knowledge, and then kids will be like Rousseau said-—”Unchained by Evil Culture”. Dewey’s curricula was written by hard core Marxists like Dr. Ruggs and Dr. Counts to twist history and confuse kids by removing phonics/efficient math techniques—and force parents to take the blame for schools removing Logic (dyslexia).

Your kids have been given a perception of “Reality” from a Marxist bias-—to destroy Wisdom/Traditions/God (Virtue) and blur the Truth—so kids not only CAN’T understand the Truth because they are fed lies/misinformation at young ages-—they will HATE the Truth (God/Father).

Controlling the minds of the children will give you the future.


44 posted on 07/30/2013 9:00:59 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SeekAndFind

45 posted on 07/30/2013 9:02:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dadfly

Well, I am not THAT old but when I was in 8th grade, I was asked to write a 20 page term paper on the effect of the Monroe Doctrine on the US foreign policy during the pre-civil war period. It had to be type-written, double spaced, incude 10 different types of footnotes and a bibliography and an appendix.

My freshman year in college, we were required to take a survey of religion course that included religious philosophers from Thomas Aquinas to Paul Tillich. Many seminary students struggle with Tillich, today.


46 posted on 07/30/2013 9:03:56 AM PDT by Eva (B Obama is to Trayvon Martin as Al Sharpton is to Tawana Brawley)
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To: dfwgator

X=5


47 posted on 07/30/2013 9:04:24 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: noprogs

I’m sure someone could explain it’s “old school” while “they be new school.”

Or something liberal, like that.


48 posted on 07/30/2013 9:05:03 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SeekAndFind

First language they need to learn is Assembler. Learn that, and learning any other language will be a snap.....And they’ll be more efficient as well.


49 posted on 07/30/2013 9:05:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Signalman

Showoff!


50 posted on 07/30/2013 9:05:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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