“Elysium” is implausible, because it’s based on a medical device manufacturer with no salespeople

wordpress ^ | August 12, 2013 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

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Movie review: “Elysium” is implausible, because it’s based on a medical device manufacturer that does not employ any salespeople

Elysium has too many loud, noisy action scenes, and not enough calm, quiet, reflective scenes of thoughtful contemplation. It didn’t have any lines of dialogue that I can see myself wanting to quote in the future. None of the characters were particularly interesting. And if I was a child, I couldn’t see myself wanting to buy any of the action figures that might be based on this movie.

The machine that instantly cures cancer seems perfectly plausible. However, in the entire movie, we never find out the name of the corporation that manufactures this machine. And apparently, there is no team of trained salespeople traveling all over the world trying to sell this machine to hospitals in big cities. And that brings up the most unrealistic thing about this movie: Since when has there ever been a medical device manufacturer that did not employ any salespeople?

In this movie, there is no Bill Gates-type character who donates huge amounts of his own money to help the poor get medical care. In this movie, there are no rich people who massage their supersized egos by having entire hospital wings named in honor of their massive donations.

While it’s easy for me to imagine that a bunch of rich people would want to live in their own private space station, there’s no way that every rich person would want to live there – there would always be some holdouts who preferred to remain on earth. But in this movie, there are no holdouts.

If they wanted to make a point about poor people not being able to afford health care, the following would have been a lot more realistic: a poor person gets cancer. They go to the hospital, where one of these machines instantly cures their cancer. Then they get a ridiculously large bill that they could never possibly afford to pay. They lose their house. Their life savings is wiped out. They declare bankruptcy. That would be realistic.

But the idea that on the entire earth, there wouldn’t be even one hospital that had one of these machines, is completely ridiculous.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: damon; dystopia; economics; elysium; healthcare; hollywood; illegal; immigration; movie; moviereview; movies; obamacare; review; socialism; stupid

[2ndDivisionVet]

Nothing Happens Until Somebody Sells Something!!

[mylife]

Is Elysium not a French Polynesian port?

[mylife]

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/185418/Elysium

[Darksheare]

The movie is political commentary much like Avatard.
It’s what leftists imagine life without obamacare would be like
Oddly, it describes exactly the situation under obamacare.
The “elites” have everything, and the disfavored little people have nothing...

[mylife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPkgciMI-Wk

[Vince Ferrer]

Not only that, but the company is content with selling a device literally everyone would want access to, to a small number of people. Wouldn't they want to sell to everyone?

I have only seen the trailer, but in it a young woman in a bikini goes to the machine to get her skin cancer wiped out in a few seconds. This doesn't seem like a very expensive procedure. It seems like the company has found the secret to radically bring down the price of healthcare. So why not expand who has access to it? Bringing down the price of electricity, cars, air conditioning, etc, to the middle class and poor worked wonders for the economy and the standard of living. Why wouldn't bringing down the price of healthcare also radically expand its use, and work wonders with the standard of living with everyone?

Perhaps the reason that things are so bad in the future is that it is run by idiots with no business sense.

[mylife]

Hat tip.

[GeronL]

bump

[Darksheare]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-aosn7iXmyE#

And to mock J. Cameron... I present: Avatard!

[KneelBeforeZod]

“But the idea that on the entire earth, there wouldn’t be even one hospital that had one of these machines, is completely ridiculous.”

And..he thought District 9 and Star Wars was real?

[GeronL]

Right. This corporation is not interested in profit? Seriously? Sounds more like a snobbish government or quasi-government organization.

[GeronL]

lol

That was just bad. heh

[Darksheare]

Oddly, it was far more entertaining than the original
Opens the same way though: “Duh!”

[GeronL]

lol

Seriously though, companies that avoid 99% of its potential customers is stupid. Only a government or a non-profit could afford to ignore sales.

[Darksheare]

Exactly, it illustrates obamacare rationing.
Not that the left will even admit that.

[mylife]

I hated that movie.

Avaturd

[Darksheare]

Yup!
Hailed in some circles as “really stickin it to them”, it made vacuous points and heavy handed exposition of same.
The parody trailer is a one hundred percent better product.

[mylife]

Utopia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP83iKsp4ac

[skr]

This movie has apparently decided to win the War on Poverty by to killing off the poor people.

[skr]

Nix the second to.

[Dallas59]

If only the rich of Hollywood would share their medical secrets with the “hispanic immigrants” of today!

[jsanders2001]

And all the citizens of Elysium are perfect rich white people that are throwbacks to the 50’s that go to lavish parties all the time and sip their tea with their pinkies out and eat crumpets with the the exception of its President who’s an Indian (from India) while all the poor people live on earth which has become one big ghetto. The colony is protected by an evil white Jodie Foster who goes after incoming illegal aliens by shooting down their transport vehicles, killing them, when they only want a better life and want to be able to use the miracle healing device to heal their sick and dying children but can’t because they aren’t citizens.

Oh so its not biased and has no agenda at all.../s

[jsanders2001]

The only reason they probably used a white man as the main character was to not make the movie’s message so obvious IMO

[grundle]

Plus they all speak French!

[Venturer]

Jodie Foster is on my do not support list.

[reg45]

Perhaps the reason that things are so bad in the future is that it is run by idiots with no business sense.

Isn't that just another way to say socialist?

[Louis Foxwell]

This is progressive utopia. The geniuses finally understand that the only way collectivism works is if there are no poor, no serfs, no slaves, no workers and no one who prefers beer to wine.(unless it is microbrewed)
This is precisely what Russia achieved by walling in the elitists in Moscow, separating them from the hoi polloi. They had their own culture, supplies, schools,medical facilities and so forth.
This is an old fantasy of the left in which only the most deserving live in comfort and luxury.

[Born to Conserve]

You only need salesmen to sell things people don’t want to buy.

[jsanders2001]

> Jodie Foster is on my do not support list.

At least ahe doesn’t shove her lifestyle down people’s throats and stayed in the closet about even though everyone uspected she was a lesbian for a long time. I can live with that.

[IMR 4350]

Haven’t seen the movie and have no intention to until it shows up on the boob tube, but from what I’ve read and heard it sounds like an attempt to get into the public conversation what all leftist elites have dreamed of for years but never wanted to talk about.

The need for “death panels”.

[Seraphicaviary]

The most unplausible part of the movie is a minister of defence who is obviously a cheese-eating surrender monkey. She speaks French and is has a French name (Delacroix if I heard right).

[jmcenanly]

Even a an earlier version of the one on the space station would have been useful. Or else that was what the robot bureaucrat was for, since they no longer made the parts for the old machines. This movie is the direct inverse of what these colonies were supposed to be for.Mark Whittington has written an article telling more about this

[CharlesWayneCT]

Well, actually, under Obamacare, it is easy to imagine no hospital having the machine. If you cure old people’s cancer, they will die of other disease, but after living longer and racking up more health care costs.

It would be more cost-effective to let them die of cancer, than to cure them.

[moonshinner_09]

These people should be ashamed of themselves. Cancer is a serious health problem . How about the movie crew be put through some real chemotherapy and then ask them what they think about cancer.