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1 posted on 08/13/2013 5:35:00 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: Louis Foxwell

Nuke Mecca.

Twice.


2 posted on 08/13/2013 5:37:05 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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Sorry about the excerpt. It is the only way to get the post up with the current glitch.

Greenfield opens some nasty wounds, not the least of which are cowardice and lack of moral fibre.
We have to get the children out of the living room.


3 posted on 08/13/2013 5:37:41 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Well, his ideas are correct, his central fact is wrong.

The bombs didn’t end the war, a tape recorder did.


4 posted on 08/13/2013 5:42:55 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Louis Foxwell
In the summer of '45, the United States concluded a war that had come to be seen by some as unwinnable after the carnage at Iwo Jima
Carnage at Iwo Jima, yes. But I think it was the battle for Okinawa that convinced the US they could never win by invading Japan.
6 posted on 08/13/2013 5:46:28 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The Left repeatedly pushed the meme that it took Booosh longer to win the war in Iraq than it took to win WWII. Except we entered WWII while it was already under way for several years and finished it off with two major nuclear strikes.

The same double standard they used when they proclaimed that at least Saddam Hussein kept acts of terrorism down in Iraq (by raping and disembowling prisoners’ wives, cutting off their hands, etc.). Generally behaving as a tyrannical dictator against everyone, not just terrorists, but critics and innocents.


8 posted on 08/13/2013 5:47:03 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The real lesson is our occupation and complete control of their government.

Unless we are willing to set up a Marshal Law scenario like MacArthur did, the Middle East will always be a snake den in need of extermination.

10 posted on 08/13/2013 5:49:00 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Louis Foxwell
It is better to end a war by winning it than it is to drag it out for decades.
See how well Germany, Italy and Japan recovered by their own labor, as opposed to Vietnam.
Iraq and Afghanistan are Vietnams, they will never be like Japan.
As far as nation building is concerned, let the losing countries rebuild on their own, so they A: Value what they have, B: Earn the skills to keep building and C: Don't burden American taxpayers forever.

12 posted on 08/13/2013 5:51:23 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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On Sept 12, 2001, a single ICBM should have struck Mecca, hitting with all 8 warheads and reducing it to nothing. Then Afghanistan should have been saturated from one end to the other with nerve gas, Kabul nuked, and every structure in every village hit with World War II scale conventional bombing. Not so much as a goat left. Then the nuking of Baghdad, Tehran, and other strongholds of the enemy afterward. This could have been done in two weeks, followed by the announcement that the US will not tolerate assaults on its own soil.


13 posted on 08/13/2013 5:57:59 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

One thing that is never mentioned in all the weeping an gnashing of teeth, that 100,000 captives held by the Japanese were dying per month at that time. Still captives died at the end of the war for a while as they were too starved to survive, but many who died in captivity were saved.


15 posted on 08/13/2013 6:05:46 AM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I had the privilege of meeting and chatting with Gen. Paul Tibbets.

There was NO doubt in his mind (or mine) that we did the right thing at the right time.


18 posted on 08/13/2013 6:12:11 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Louis Foxwell

In his book “The Five Rings” Musashi described a tactic in fighting (either individual combat or war) called Piercing the Bottom. In this tactic one does not stop when the enemy is defeated physically, but continues attacking with such ferocity that the enemy loses all hope of victory and completely gives up resistance.


19 posted on 08/13/2013 6:13:18 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

This article has shades of “Aplocolype Now” in it.


21 posted on 08/13/2013 6:27:26 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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The spectacle of Nidal Hasan trying to communicate to a politically correct military bureaucracy that he really is a Muslim terrorist is almost comic. Before the shootings, he expressed sympathy for terrorists and put his Islamic holy warrior tag on his business cards. He did everything short of hiring a skywriter to fly over Fort Hood writing, "Nidal Hasan is a Muslim Terrorist".

Ted Koppel's advice of ignoring Muslim terrorism because it's more dangerous to react to it, backfired badly at Fort Hood.

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23 posted on 08/13/2013 6:49:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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My only brother was killed on Okinawa and the day that the war with Japan was over I was in line at a Leyte Replacement Depot, about 7th or 8th in line, to get battle gear to invade Japan. When we were told to go back to our tents there was a great feeling of relief even though we still had that feeling that in cases like mine there was no revenge. After all is said and done war is hate and revenge. My brother’s last v-mail was that he was willing to go all the way if I wouldn’t have to come. Those words just stick in my memory to this day.


24 posted on 08/13/2013 6:51:57 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Louis Foxwell; GenXteacher
Again Daniel hits the nail on the head. And I also agree with GenXteacher's post # 13.

Orson Scott Card's book series, "Ender's Game", deals with this same moral dilemma, and if you have not yet read it, you should. Although it was written as juvenile fiction, never-the-less it covers very adult concepts (just without any nasty words or porn scenes)which is refreshing to read.

Ender Wiggin, the third in a family of child geniuses, is selected by international military forces to save the world from destruction by an alien force of insect beings. Ender is sent away to an intense Battle training School where they train with war games. Compassion is the theme that runs through Ender's life and is the defining feature of his existence. The reason that he plays the games so well is his ability to understand the enemy and to inspire loyalty. And it is compassion that saves Ender. If not for his compassion he would have been turned into an automaton; he would have become either a killing machine or a power hungry creature. On the other hand, Ender realizes that Ruthlessness is sometimes necessary, but it is a last resort.

So there is conflict in Ender's mind when they tell him that he is to soon become the Commander of Earth's galactic forces against the alien invaders..... you will have to read the book to see how that turns out and you will not be disappointed.

I could not help but think of the parallels of Hiroshima and the agonizing decisions our military had to make to win the war (end the war).

By the way,"Ender's Game" the movie is to be released in November (staring Harrison Ford as a colonel in the International Fleet and the commandant of the Battle School, and Asa Butterfield as Ender. I suggest you read the book before going to see the movie.

27 posted on 08/13/2013 7:33:14 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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An excellent editorial. Disclosure, I wouldn't be here were it not for Truman's decision, both parents would have been occupied elsewhere.

30 posted on 08/13/2013 4:21:42 PM PDT by SJackson ( The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. BF)
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To: Louis Foxwell

as horrible as it was, what the bombing of
Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused to be avoided -
for Japanesae citizens all across Japan, and
for the Japanese homeland, Japanese soldiers
and American soldiers - it constituted
a sacrifice for the greater good


31 posted on 08/13/2013 4:32:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Louis Foxwell

because we have refused to take a WWII style approach
to the war in Afghanistan, there is a very good chance
that, in a not very long time, all we have done
may be seem as a sacrifice for naught


32 posted on 08/13/2013 4:35:10 PM PDT by Wuli
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