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Top Israeli official “sick” of commemorating Hiroshima, Nagasaki A-bomb victims
Japan Times ^ | 08/16/2013 | Jiji

Posted on 08/15/2013 9:51:50 PM PDT by TexGrill

JERUSALEM – A senior Israeli government official has posted online comments on Facebook saying he is “sick” of commemorations for the victims of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings, a local newspaper reported.

“I am sick of the Japanese, ‘Human rights’ and ‘Peace’ groups” over holding their “annual self-righteous commemorations for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims,” the Haaretz daily quoted Daniel Seaman, a deputy director general at the Ministry of Public Diplomacy and Diaspora Affairs, as writing in his Facebook post.

Seaman, a key Israeli online public relations official, also wrote on the social networking site: “(The bombings of) Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the consequence of Japanese aggression. You reap what you sow.

“Instead, they should be commemorating the estimated 50 million Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Malay, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Indonesian, Burmese and other victims of Japanese imperial aggression and genocide.”

The Japanese Embassy in Tel Aviv immediately lodged a protest with the Israeli Foreign Ministry about Seaman’s post, which has already been deleted from Facebook.

(Excerpt) Read more at japantimes.co.jp ...


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1 posted on 08/15/2013 9:51:50 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

Can’t really disagree with his sentiments....


2 posted on 08/15/2013 9:54:16 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: TexGrill

Is Israel losing patience with it’s neighbors?


3 posted on 08/15/2013 9:55:19 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

“Is Israel losing patience with it’s neighbors?”

Really??? In a million years, I never would have guessed that Israel would ever have any problems with its Radical Islam neighbors. Doesn’t Al Qaeda want peace in the Middle East? And all that time, I thought Palestinian stone throwers were aiming their rocks at enemies of Israel. Double Sarc., or perhaps these comments might rank as a Triple-Double Sarc.


4 posted on 08/15/2013 10:01:37 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

Bad form.


5 posted on 08/15/2013 10:02:33 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: TexGrill
Oh dear. Is he setting up a contest of victimology?

I saw a Merv Griffith show once. He had on four guests, two African-Americans and two Jews. Each had a younger "hot-head" and an older serious, cautious speaker.

Merv had a good time listening to them claim bigger and worse victimology. THAT was his point. S*** happened; does happen and will continue to happen. That's life and Satan at work.

6 posted on 08/15/2013 10:03:29 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: TexGrill; rottndog; mylife

I have four letters and a 1,200 word essay on this subject but I will go with the letter titled Japanese Intransigence Provoked the Atomic Bombs or Japs and the Atomic Bombs: They Had It Coming

Arriving at VJ day demonstrated the critical role Kokutai played in surrender. Any prominent Japanese lived within an intimate spiritual fabric of Emperor, citizen, land, ancestral spirits, government, and Shinto religion.

Emperor Hirohito, foreseeing the probability of defeat, appointed a Peace Faction to his government in January 1944. However, this cultural imperative commenced a political kabuki through twenty months of continuous defeats, bombings of over 60 cities, and 1.3 million additional Japanese deaths.

The Japanese Privy Council debated the Final Battles arguments into physical and mental exhaustion for eleven hours following the Nagasaki bomb on August 9. For the final meeting Hirohito reluctantly invited Barron Hiranuma, who had fiercely disapproved of the war strategy. Hiranuma maintained the Emperor’s spiritual essence was independent of any imposed government. He reproved Foreign Minister Togo for never making concrete proposals to the Russians, and Minister Anami for accepting limitless nuclear warfare deaths without any opportunity to retaliate. The ministers had no answer, but remained unyielding.

At impasse Hirohito, the god-king, spoke the “Voice of the Crane” in the underground bunker. He would bear the unbearable, conclude the war, and accept government transformation. Only then did Japan contact Swiss and Swedish foreign offices to commence negotiations with allied belligerents.

The atomic bombs removed the Final Battles argument, allowing the War Faction to relent, Hirohito to assume his unprecedented roll, and no one to lose face. Their cabal remained within the fabric of Japanese from all eras who had sacrificed for Emperor and Empire.

Partial bibliography:

Japan’s Imperial Conspiracy, David Bergamni

Target Tokyo: The Story of the Sorge Spy Ring, Gordon Prange


7 posted on 08/15/2013 10:03:45 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: TexGrill
Seaman has a point.

Japan has yet to really publicly acknowledge the atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese government preceding and during WWII.

Many of the atrocities of the Japanese out strip the German atrocities. The Japanese research in to germ warfare could have killed millions had the had the time to complete and weaponise their research.

Japan has for all intents and purposes banned the publication of any history of Japan’s atrocities inside Japan’s boarders. It is keeping the truth from its citizens.

8 posted on 08/15/2013 10:04:54 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TexGrill

Ahmed does not understand that Herschel has a BIG Hammer.


9 posted on 08/15/2013 10:05:23 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Retain Mike

Thanks for the info.


10 posted on 08/15/2013 10:07:54 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

ita neighbors, like his and hers. Not it’s, which is the contraction for it is.


11 posted on 08/15/2013 10:08:40 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: mylife

ita neighbors, like his and hers. Not it’s, which is the contraction for it is.


12 posted on 08/15/2013 10:08:42 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Very. I’m at a loss as to why he felt it necessary to share his views.


13 posted on 08/15/2013 10:09:45 PM PDT by stormer
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To: mylife

oops, typo - ita = its.


14 posted on 08/15/2013 10:10:11 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: TexGrill

I agree. Just stop it.


15 posted on 08/15/2013 10:12:36 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: TexGrill

What was wrong with what he said?

Japan needs to own their agression during WW2.
I’m sure China agrees with his statements.

Pity Japan has this victim image within the anti-nuke crowd.


16 posted on 08/15/2013 10:13:43 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: kabumpo

There’s some karma for ya!


17 posted on 08/15/2013 10:14:15 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Retain Mike
Other statements he has made:

He attacked the Church of Scotland in May over a report which suggested that Jews had no divine claim to the land of historic Palestine.

He wrote: "The Church of Scotland? The Calvinist, Presbytarian [sic] Church of Scotland? Why do you think we give a flyin **** what you have to say?"

On July 22, he lambasted the EU's decision to label the military wing of Hizbollah, the Lebanese Shia organisation, as a terrorist group a "half-a****"because it made a distinction with its political wing.

At the start of the Muslim holy festival of Ramadan on July 9, he wrote: "Does the commencement of the fast of the Ramadan mean that Muslims will stop eating each other during the daytime?"

Another post on May 26, referred to comments by Saeb Erekat, the chief Palestinian negotiator, that Israel had a duty to return to its pre-1967 borders. "Is there a diplomatic way of saying 'Go **** yourself?'" Mr Seaman wrote.
18 posted on 08/15/2013 10:17:36 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: rottndog

Indeed, let us not forget these arrogant Sons of b!tchs murdered 60 million Chinese people or so.


19 posted on 08/15/2013 10:18:13 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: RginTN

Agreed. Japan is no victim in anything when it comes to WWII.


20 posted on 08/15/2013 10:18:47 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: lavaroise

Aw, come on....Japan has paid their dues....I mean, how many times has Tokyo been destroyed by Godzilla?

/s


21 posted on 08/15/2013 10:21:18 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: TexGrill

What he said. Those bombs saved my father’s life and the lives of millions of other allied soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, as well as millions of Japanese.


22 posted on 08/15/2013 10:21:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: mylife

And filling its popeye subs with seamen?


23 posted on 08/15/2013 10:21:36 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: rottndog

He has a very good point


24 posted on 08/15/2013 10:27:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Retain Mike

I guess it was easier to say you will fight to the last man, when your enemy doesn’t have the power to wipe you out without you getting a punch in.


25 posted on 08/15/2013 10:29:27 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TexGrill

I’ve been sick of that nonsense for decades. Almost as sick as I get every time congress apologizes for slavery.


26 posted on 08/15/2013 10:35:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: GeronL

Bergamani’s book is the best work on the war from the prospective of Japan.
For many years it was dissed by academic’s who were pro-japan and the emperor, but it has prevailed.
Great read..on of the key books on Japan and Asia for every scholar to study.


27 posted on 08/15/2013 10:38:25 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: TexGrill
I dont commemorate the bombings. I celebrate them.
28 posted on 08/15/2013 10:38:39 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Dallas59

And he’s a deputy director general for diplomacy and the lead PR guy on the internet!!

I love it!


29 posted on 08/15/2013 10:47:09 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Dallas59

“Another post on May 26, referred to comments by Saeb Erekat, the chief Palestinian negotiator, that Israel had a duty to return to its pre-1967 borders. “Is there a diplomatic way of saying ‘Go **** yourself?’” Mr Seaman wrote.”

I like this guy.


30 posted on 08/16/2013 12:59:28 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: TexGrill

They blew up real good.


31 posted on 08/16/2013 1:03:24 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: Pontiac

The Clint Eastwood movie, “Letters from Iwo Jima” starred many Japanese actors who played characters in the film. Eastwood found that virtually none of the Japanese actor knew the history of the Pacific War or Imperial Japan because it is NOT taught to school children and adults of that era will not speak about it. In order for the actors to understand and portray the Japanese fighters on Iwo Jima, these actors had to learn that history. They did and their performances showed it. Unfortunately, the general Japanese populace remains in near total ignorance.


32 posted on 08/16/2013 2:07:54 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

So much for “History is written by the victors”!


33 posted on 08/16/2013 2:16:56 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TexGrill

“Instead, they should be commemorating the estimated 50 million Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Malay, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Indonesian, Burmese and other victims of Japanese imperial aggression and genocide.”

This statement is worth repeating.....


34 posted on 08/16/2013 2:31:41 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: rottndog

Apparently Daniel Seaman resents the Japanese competition for a place in the pantheon of victimology. The Jewish holocaust is the one and only example of man’s inhumanity to man. The Japanese do not teach their children about the atrocities committed by their government. This is wrong. They should agree to teach this subject as soon as the Chinese agree to teach their children about the 100 million killed by their own regime. Perhaps American children should be taught about the Morgenthau Plan and the U.S. government’s role in the 20th century slave trade. World War II propaganda has been so successful that it has endured for 70 years. The Japanese were subhumans who deserved everything they got. The bombs saved lives. No one considers an alternative: a more generous and farsighted negotiated peace. Had Japan been allowed to retain its position in Korea and Manchuria it is unlikely that the U.S. would have been involved in the Asian wars. As inhumane as the Japanese were, Chinese were migrating into Manchuria. Their attack on Pearl Harbor was not completely unprovoked and was not a total surprise.


35 posted on 08/16/2013 3:51:34 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks TexGrill.
"I am sick of the Japanese, 'Human rights' and 'Peace' groups" over holding their "annual self-righteous commemorations for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims," the Haaretz daily quoted Daniel Seaman, a deputy director general at the Ministry of Public Diplomacy and Diaspora Affairs, as writing in his Facebook post... "(The bombings of) Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the consequence of Japanese aggression... Instead, they should be commemorating the estimated 50 million Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Malay, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Indonesian, Burmese and other victims of Japanese imperial aggression and genocide."
Goes to show that it isn't about 'human rights' or 'peace' after all.


36 posted on 08/16/2013 4:58:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Pontiac
There seems to be a collective amnesia on the part of the Axis participants in WW2. Japan is the most egregious over its WW2 aggression. However, its Asian neighbors: China, Taiwan, S. Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, Guam, the Philippines, and Australia have not.

Similarly, the years 1933 to 1945 are stricken from the collective German memory. The older generation will not talk about the war years, but there is enough remembrances by Germany's neighbors that the war years are known to the general population. Also, there are proscriptions against Nazi regalia and symbols. The German population are aware of the Nazi's camps and the Holocaust.

I don't believe the amnesia runs as deep in Italy because this former Germany ally was also occupied by Germany from 8 September 1943 to 8 May 1945. The Germans were very cruel occupiers where they were in Italy and there's no love lost.

37 posted on 08/16/2013 6:11:09 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: TexGrill
More Japanese and Americans citizens would have died if the bomb was NOT dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bomb saved millions of lives on both sides of that war...

Nuking Iran might be similar.

Death by firestorm, by conventional weapons, or by nukes is still death... Peace activists tend toward unicorn silliness...

38 posted on 08/16/2013 6:44:21 AM PDT by GOPJ ( When the state knows all but difference between right and wrong, it won't end well--Steyn)
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To: Dallas59

I like him.....sort of like if Curtis Lemay was the state department


39 posted on 08/16/2013 8:40:00 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Vehmgericht

guess the Americans had another agenda and plan. Had to keep China safe for the commies to get.


40 posted on 08/16/2013 9:37:44 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

China Marines

http://www.chinamarine.org/


41 posted on 08/16/2013 2:58:51 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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