Skip to comments.Did Crayon Pop blow it with hate talk? (South Korea)
Posted on 08/21/2013 11:14:26 PM PDT by TexGrill
It wasnt long ago when Crayon Pop, the goofy five-member girl band, seemed like the hottest new act in K-pop. Now they seem all but toast after its members got too cute with Internet hate speech.
The controversy began to build up in June, when Way, one of the Crayon Pop singers, tweeted ''You know you guys were 'nomu nomu (very very) awesome today, right? Were jealous of all your fashion sense. To our nomu cute fans, thank you and thank you. And in an earlier television appearance, Choa was called by another member ''jjeolttuki after coming to the stage dragging a foot.
Neither ''nomu nomu nor ''jjeolttuki are commonly advised for everyday speech, definitely not when youre talking to an Internet or television audience. In the language of ''Ilbe (www.ilbe.com), an online message board dominated by people supporting ultra right-wing politics, these words are disrespectful nicknames for late former Presidents Roh Moo-hyun and Kim Dae-jung, the last liberal candidates to have reached Cheong Wa Dae.
''Jjeolttuk is particularly discomforting because it can be translated as ''a cripple. Kim spent the larger part of his life as a politician with a hitch in his walk after suffering from torture during the military dictatorship.
(Excerpt) Read more at koreatimes.co.kr ...
The hell did I just read?
I have no idea either. I just remember a Freeper from Hawaii did a post about these helmet heads, so I wanted to do a follow-up story.
Apparently the Korean terms for “very very” and “cripple” is considered hate speech by some.
In the looks department, SNSD seems (at a glance) to have cuter girls.
Never heard their stuff.
I agree, they don’t need the helmets.
I just watched about eleven seconds of this “Crayon Pop” group on YouTube and decided that I now know all I will ever need to know about Korean girl groups. It was like Klingon kabuki nitwit theatre from the future on crack. With helmets, yet.
And with that, I shall take my leave. I will not be returning to this thread.
Good DAY sir.
I’ve watched a lot of Kpop.... but the helmet thing I do not get
I’m lucky. I’m in China and they banned YouTube, so I can’t watch the video in question. By the way, how does the video compare to Gangnam-style? Just curious.
I think they need trampolines.
I am asking the same question. Can someone translate? ROFL
Not sure but I think someone in a girl group band insulted a past president of South Korea or something and it was on a Right Wing Internet Board or something to that effect.
A female in a pop group went on the internet and I guess gave a positive criticism about someone fashion calling it Nunu or something like that(No relation to Birdie Num Num - Peter Sellers - The Party) on a Right Wing Board. Whatever she called that person was an insult to a past president of South Korea (Which it was toward North Korea).
So there is my take =) CONFUZZLED
Apparently “shut up and sing” is a good idea but the story makes it sound like she was talking about fashion.
With their song "Bar Bar Bar" in the number one spot on Billboard K-Pop Hot 100 this week on the strength of a viral video that has earned over 3 million YouTube views, K-pop girl group Crayon Pop should be on top of the world.
Yet, greater visibility offers more chances to stir up controversy and the five members of Crayon Pop have been doing exactly that lately.
The most recent ruckus arose from what was perceived as a former affiliation by Crayon Pop's members to the controversial South Korean social networking site Ilbe or "Daily Best."
The website is known for having members that express extreme right-wing, anti-communist and sexist views, according to the publication eNEWS.
Crayon Pop came under fire for using the word "hobbler," used by Ilbe users to mock former South Korean President Kim Dae Jung.
An official statement released by the band's record label Chrome Entertainment on Wednesday called the whole thing a misunderstanding.
"One member used the word ′hobbler′ when she saw another member limping," the statement read.
"We′re surprised to find that the word can be used to put down the late former president Kim Dae Jung. We are, however, regretting that she used the word without thinking that it could hurt the feelings of those with real handicaps."
Several members of Crayon Pop were also believed to be referencing Ilbe by using the slogan "no moo no moo," as a way of saying "very, very."
"No moo no moo," was used on the controversial website to mock former President Roh Moo Hyun.
The Chrome Entertainment statement emphasized that Crayon Pop had no idea they were making political references.
"Crayon Pop members are not members of Ilbe," the statement read./font>
"[One band] member just used 'no moo no moo' in an effort to look cute. The member didn't know that her comment could be interpreted in a political way, and she didn't know that the word was used by Ilbe to put down the late former president Roh Moo Hyun. This is because she had never been on Ilbe."
The incident led to Crayon Pop being dropped, at least temporarily, from an online shopping ad campaign.
Someone in SK media wants to make a name for themselves ab=nd get a job in American media/MSNBC. So they viewed a simple common words there through the PC prism and ascribed hate speech to them to create a controversy where none was intended or existed.
It’s like here when someone says “It was dark last night” and some idiot screams racism over the word ‘dark’ or ‘That’s gay” getting the fudge fraternity in an uproar.
That article was a little better to understand than the Korea Times story I posted. I initially assumed they got into a nasty netizen debate over the latest helmet fashion triends, and calling those who disagreed with them, “cripples.”
“Your a helmet head!”
“Your a cripple!”
“You are shortbus!”
If they were actually on the site in question and commenting about those former Presidents, then there might actually be something to be offended by if your a lefty. Except this is none of that, they are not members and they did not post anything to the so-called “right-wing” site.
But it helps plant the meme that ‘right wing’ sites are evil hives of scum, villainy and bad words. One little step at a time....
Leftists in SK are no different than ours, they have just been less successful so far.
Leftism is our greatest export. A while back the German metal group Rammstein put out a song caalled “Amerika” about how our cultural exports have screwed up so much. When I first say the vid It tweaked me good. But then I thought about it in depth. They were right. It’s a good example of how the world sees us. And they aren’t wrong in a disgusting amount of cases.
Vid with subtitles
Well, metal music is bad enough in English never mind German... lol
Ahh. That was...interesting. I think I’ll stick with this Korean gal:
A little more to my musical taste, and all that. :-)
Try Swedish death metal sometime...or better, don’t. Painful even for metal fans ;)
Pretty typical Korean girls of that age group. Lord I miss that place.
Not bad. She should try Red House.
Korean plastic surgery is out of control. They all look the SAME!!!
“Shhhh! Be vewy vwey quiet! I’m huntin’ wabbit.”
“Eh, Doc. Why the hate speech?”
Okay, that’s funny. Glad I didn’t have a mouthful of milk or I’d be looking for a new monitor.
You’re right. They aren’t guilty of anything that I can detect, and I don’t really get the article as it was written or (mis)-translated, but I’m reasonably certain I do NOT want to hear their ‘music’.
Did you find it weird the way they referred to the individuals not by name, but by saying (repeatedly) "one member". Like they have no individual identity.
I don't know anything about "K-Pop" and after reading this article and several comments I know even less. I get the idea it's some kiddie fizzle teenie pop quasi music genre in South Korea. I've got a 12 year old girl at home so I already get more bubble gum cotton candy mind melt than anyone deserves.
I'm pretty sure I'd rather eat barbed wire than listen to whatever this article is about. Throw in some red ants.