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Contempt for illegal drug use blinds American public to alternatives
Coach is Right ^ | 8/25/13 | Bruce Karlson

Posted on 08/25/2013 8:46:19 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Please do not be guilty of the above when considering the legalization of all recreational drugs. Anyone is legally permitted to kill himself slowly with tobacco, once addicted. Equally, a person may legally drink himself to death and/or wreck the lives of those around him with a bottle a day. For such people we have compassion. But for the users of illegal drugs, most of us have only contempt.

It is difficult (impossible, actually) to understand the logic of making certain drugs illegal. Apart from legality, what is the difference between smoking a “joint” and having a beer? Further, doing a “line” of cocaine makes for an apt comparison with having a dry martini. Oh, the “gateway” routine? Well, weed may be a “gateway” drug but Budweiser and nicotine are the “gateways” to weed. Shall we continue this line of reasoning??

Society is visited with problems from both legal and illegal drugs but the illegal ones support a criminal culture that is bankrupting...

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: drugarrests; drugs; drugusers; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; prescriptiondrug; randsconcerntrolls
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To: G Larry

Beer is the ultimate gateway drug.


21 posted on 08/25/2013 9:16:25 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DannyTN

Marijuana is benign compared to tobacco and alcohol. Legalize it. Tax it.


22 posted on 08/25/2013 9:18:45 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mountainlion
The more doped up people there are the easier the take over is.

Did you miss the alarm clock today.....

Been there done that. We live in a semi begin totalitarian police state now!

Just how more illegal do they have to declare Christians before we dismantle the oppression!!!!

The longer you have paramilitary forces deployed against your citizens the more citizens you will have to declare illegal.

First they came for the intoxicated people, and we helped destroy their lives!

23 posted on 08/25/2013 9:19:53 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: G Larry
Look at the cultures that have tried the libertarian approach. Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands.....

Yeah, I've looked at those and their curious lack of growing paramilitary police states all in the name of people not being able to mind their own business.

24 posted on 08/25/2013 9:21:23 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: cripplecreek

How do you subsidize, dirt, water, and sunshine!!


25 posted on 08/25/2013 9:21:34 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Contempt for illegal drug use blinds American public to alternatives”.

Why not make the headline, “Contempt for law blinds drug users to alternatives”?


26 posted on 08/25/2013 9:23:27 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Did you miss the alarm clock today.....

It was an hour ahead today for some reason.

They will need to dope up over half the population to start taking away the guns for their master plan.


27 posted on 08/25/2013 9:23:45 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Yes, I forgot about the well recorded history of the united states being nation of drug crazed zombies up until the 2nd decade of the 20th century. Oh, wait....


28 posted on 08/25/2013 9:24:08 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: DannyTN

>> Marijuana causes bipolar and schitzophrenia <<

Never heard that before. What’s your evidence?


29 posted on 08/25/2013 9:24:33 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: rawcatslyentist
How do you subsidize, dirt, water, and sunshine!!

Ask a farmer.
30 posted on 08/25/2013 9:25:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: G Larry
My copy of the Constitution leaves out the power to regulate drugs of any sort in Art. 1 Section 8. That is a State police power, and should devolve back to the states. Put federal government back in the constitutional box.

That is, unless you are addicted to big government.

/johnny

31 posted on 08/25/2013 9:27:13 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: wintertime

The war on drugs is just as goofy as the gun control issue. (Chicago is the poster city for repealing strict gun laws.) Why do people continue to support legislation that doesn’t work and is, in fact, counterproductive? (The citizens, not the people who stand to gain from such legislation.) You really hit it on the head!


32 posted on 08/25/2013 9:27:49 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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To: mountainlion
They will need to dope up over half the population to start taking away the guns for their master plan.

Didn't work in Colorado!

Again you have overslept! Where have you been the past 5 years!

Let go of your anger and hate towards the poor lost souls addicted to drugs. Murdering them, and enslaving them is not the solution.

33 posted on 08/25/2013 9:27:53 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Silentgypsy
The war on drugs is just as goofy as the gun control issue.

And just as unconstitutional at the federal level.

/johnny

34 posted on 08/25/2013 9:29:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Blackirish
Beer is the ultimate gateway drug.

If it wasn't for beer, ugly women wouldn't be getting any at 2:00 AM!

35 posted on 08/25/2013 9:30:35 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Equally, a person may legally drink himself to death and/or wreck the lives of those around him with a bottle a day. For such people we have compassion.

Really? I have known the entire spectrum of addicts. The only ones I have compassion for are those who have faced up to their demons and are trying to stay clean and sober.

I am fairly sure I am not the only one who looks at it this way.

When you start your rant with either dishonesty or stupidity it leads me to believe you don't know what you are talking about.

36 posted on 08/25/2013 9:30:45 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I am for legalizing all such drugs, under the following conditions:

- Any crime committed under the influence is punished with a torture penalty equal to three-fold the damage back to the perp (it’s biblical)—no “temporary insanity” defense allowed;
- The person, family, or friends of persons hurt can volunteer to provide the punishment;
- No governmental welfare, including medical help, can be provided to help or cure the person.

I think this would go a long way toward responsible drug use.


37 posted on 08/25/2013 9:32:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Opium use has been going on for thousands of years. Opium poppys have been found buried with Egyptian mummies.

Your police state tactics aren't going to change thousands of years of human behavior.

/johnny

38 posted on 08/25/2013 9:33:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The law underlying the law is called the “social sanction”. These are the consensus agreements with most of the public, and they do differ based on where you live.

The closest the SCOTUS has ever come to recognizing the social sanction is when it threw up its hands when trying to create rules about pornography. It concluded that there couldn’t be a universally applied law in the US, that “local standards” would determine whether a given things was legal or illegal.

I mention this with respect to “unauthorized drugs”, because while *now* they are illegal, if they become legal, the social sanction will have to write the rules about their use.

For example, forbidden using drugs while driving, operating machinery, working with small children, carrying guns, or engaged with other things that need a clear head for safety reasons.

Importantly, social sanction rules cannot be easily ignored like the written law, because once a public agreement has been reached, just about everyone tries to enforce the sanction.

A clear example of this, again for example, is if someone donned a t-shirt that said “I like to molest children!”, before walking down a busy sidewalk. Even though what he was doing is legal, the social sanction would demand that people confront him about it. Even violently.

So the proper use of unauthorized drugs could only be done in the framework of what the public imagines.


39 posted on 08/25/2013 9:34:43 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: G Larry

Sorry. After having dealt with and treated ten’s of thousands of ‘convicted’ drug addicts over 20+ years, the ‘gateway’ drug for over 80% of them was——alcohol. Alcohol abuse impacts society multiple times greater than ‘drugs’. Now the basic question is; As an consenting adult supposedly solely responsible for the ALL the consequences of your choices, WHO owns your body?


40 posted on 08/25/2013 9:34:47 AM PDT by yadent
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