Skip to comments.What makes Russia's Vityaz better than USA's Patriot?
Posted on 08/27/2013 11:15:33 PM PDT by TexGrill
The town of Zhukovsky in the Moscow region is getting ready for the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2013, Russia's major air show. It is expected that the show will present a variety of new products of international level.
For the first time ever, the air show is going to present the unique anti-aircraft missile system S-350E. Russian helicopter-making companies will unveil new developments in the industry. The air show that is held near Moscow every year gradually becomes an authoritative political event.
As for the level of development of high-tech industries, particularly the aerospace industry, - this level is seen by many as a sign of what is happening inside this or that country. It also shows its potential and the extent of development of its safety and technology. This year, the Russian industry is going to show the whole range of products, not only of civil but also military purposes. Visitors of the show will be able to take a look at a number of state-of-the-art developments in the form of actual exhibits.
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The key is to prevent the other side from even launching theirs.
“The key is to prevent the other side from even launching theirs.”
LOL!!! Thanks for making me laugh. And when Obummer strikes Syria do you really think no missiles will get launched?
Syria we can handle...it’s Russia that worries me.
President Vladimir Putin has trouble forgiving an insult. He once said, “Whoever offends us will not live out the day.”
Missile is a bit of a misnomer.
What you want is a hitile.
lol...never thought of that.
One has been in service since 1981. The other was developed in 2009. This is like saying the computer outperforms the slide rule. Problem is, a genius with the slide rule will kick the ass of the idiot with the computer.
My statement is with respect to launch interdiction as a general military strategy; not a comment on any particular engagement. Obviating launch either by disabling systems or by intrusion through stealth has been used successfully a number of times in recent years.
“Syria we can handle...its Russia that worries me.
President Vladimir Putin has trouble forgiving an insult. He once said, Whoever offends us will not live out the day.”
Actually, Russia’s hands are tied bigtime at the moment. They can’t do anything in retaliation. Iran will have to pick up the slack. The reason? The Winter Olympics, in Sochi, Russia. Putin can’t afford any bad PR at this crucial time right before the Winter Olympics are about to start. He/his country have sunk millions of dollars into preparations for the Olympics. He wants this Olympics to be a Russian showcase to the world. He will not let anything mar the image of these Olympic events, in particular by getting Russia into some kind of quasi-war.
So, Russia will provide Syria with munitions and will work behind the scenes, but outfront? No way. That’s our one ace in the hole if Obama is idiot enough to get us involved in some way in the Syrian civil war. Russia will not get seriously involved outfront. On the other hand, Iran could, via its proxies, Hezbullah and Hamas. They could cause headaches for Israel, that is until Bibi goes after them bigtime, which he will, as he is not a wuss like Obama.
Hmmm.... Now if you were talking about a Western politician, I’d agree. However, this is Putin we are talking about and he’s playing for geopolitical stakes. The Olympics are a nice little chew toy, but access to the Mediterranean and a warm water port for Russian Navy ships is a much bigger prize. Especially if he can wangle basing rights for Russian fighters.
Additionally, his pride is very touchy and I don’t think he’s going to be able to resist the idea of sticking it to Obama again. He doesn’t like Obama, and he resents the thought that he’s supposed to just because Obama is a “Leftist”.
One thing for sure, unlike Obama who is making this up as he goes along, Putin and his generals are wargaming the hell out of this. The Russians are great chess players.
There is a lot not to like about Putin but one must admit that he is an intelligent leader who loves his country.
On the other hand, Obama is neither intelligent nor a lover of his country...IMO
If I had to have one as a next door neighbor, I would groan and opt for Putin.
I want maximum individual freedom and minimum interference from government. Neither Putin or Obama feel that way.
“LOL!!! Thanks for making me laugh. And when Obummer strikes Syria do you really think no missiles will get launched?”
Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 24-36 missiles. All at the American fleet.
Well we started it. What would Obama expect?
Sad part is, the US is dragging Israel into a war and they would expect Israel’s air defense system to protect them.
I always wondered what a “Sea of Fire” would really look like. When I lived in South Korea, the late North Korean leader Kim jong-il loved to say that all the time when talking about the South. I just assummed Kim was just using meaningless metaphors with his empty threats, but with this Syrian War, we can now see some good visuals of a “Sea of Fire.” How long before they turn the Syrian War into a Reality TV series? Will it be on MTV or TLC?
“Olympics are a nice little chew toy, but access to the Mediterranean and a warm water port for Russian Navy ships is a much bigger prize.”
I maintain Putin will do nothing overt. He doesn’t have to. If Obama does strike, it will be basically a pin prick, and the status quo between the two warring sides will remain the same. Putin will keep Assad well armed. Life after Obama’s “strike” will go back to the norm of both warring sides bumping each other off with impunity, and Putin will continue to have his warm water base. Obama won’t force Putin’s hand over Syria. He knows that’s Putin’s strategic warm water port. Obama’s a fool, but not a total fool. Hmmmm, let me rethink that last comment....
Well, if I were a betting man and if there was someway we could make an honorable wager, I’d be tempted. My gut feeling is that Putin wants to humiliate Obama even more than he has managed so far.
Putin thinks that if he growls loud enough, and positions his forces aggressively enough, he can get Obama to back down.
Bottom line, Obama is a coward at heart, and is thus unlikely to go to the mattress if Russia stands firm.
The recent, “monkey with a grenade” comment by Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin is probably the clearest indication of how the Russians view Obama.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
“Well, if I were a betting man and if there was someway we could make an honorable wager, Id be tempted. My gut feeling is that Putin wants to humiliate Obama even more than he has managed so far.”
Don’t bet(that’s if you were a betting man). Below are tidbits from an article yesterday on NewsMax online. Note the first sentence here:
“Moscow has indicated it would not interfere with Western military action against Syria, but it has stressed Western nations are making a mad dash before all is known about the alleged nerve gas attack in a Damascus suburb that has reportedly killed more than 1,000 people, according to The Christian Science Monitor....
Georgy Mirsky, an expert with the Center for Development and Modernization with the official Institute of World Economy and International Relations, said, “There’s nothing Russia can or should do to stop Western military intervention in Syria.”...
“Russia can sit and watch. A propaganda war will rage, and Moscow will be able to say that we wanted peace, we were working for the Geneva-2 conference, but it didn’t happen because they opted for military force instead,” Mirsky said.
“As things stand, developments will play into Moscow’s hands. The U.S. will compromise itself with another war in another Arab country, and look more than ever like a neo-colonialist power. Why would Obama want this?”
Well, lookie here... Guess who just backed down? Guess who just ate Barry’s lunch?
Putin growled, moved a few ships, Barry looked at his cards and folded.
What Putin knows is that everything Obama does is for domestic consumption. Obama doesn’t care a lick about how the US appears in the world and has no idea how to manage it. The threat to attack Syria was just a test to see what he could get away with and if there was anything he could do to divert attention away from the IRS, Benghazi and NSA scandals.
I’m sure the Navy and the Marine Corps really appreciate being used in this fashion. Never let a god crisis go to waste.
Pravda is saying how much better it is yet I don't see Israel having any problems bombing any target in Syria that they want and they haven't lost a single plane.
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