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Japanese prefer to die from heat (rather) than turn air conditioning on
Pravda ^ | 08/28/2013 | Pravda

Posted on 08/28/2013 9:45:03 PM PDT by TexGrill

According to the police and fire department of Japan, more than 53 thousand people have been hospitalized with heat stroke since the end of May in the country. The number of lethal outcomes has reached 338.

Of these, 263 people (78 percent) are over 60 years of age. 75 percent were found in the premises outfitted with air conditioning systems, although they were not used. Meteorological services reported that in some parts of Japan, temperatures will be preserved on the level of 35 degrees Centigrade before the end of the week.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
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Perfect example of Eco-Brainwashing. When I visited Hong Kong they kept playing commercials about saving energy to save the environment and if you see a litterer call the polce to get the assailant arrested. I even saw TV documentaries about Japanese families trying to live a "carbon free" lifestyle. One TV show had a debate with the Japanese arguing for and against owning a refrigerator. The refigerator owner was deounced as an "energy hog family."
1 posted on 08/28/2013 9:45:03 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

That’ll be next here. Energy Pariahs.


2 posted on 08/28/2013 9:47:18 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: TexGrill

“Perfect example of Eco-Brainwashing.”

Probably not. After Fukishima, Japan turned off all the nukes and have turned only 2 back on after making a series of safety improvements. They probably have a serious shortage of electricity and the price is probably sky high too.


3 posted on 08/28/2013 9:50:53 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: TexGrill

I think they must conserve electricity due to Fukishima.


4 posted on 08/28/2013 9:54:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: TexGrill
from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Japan Prior to the earthquake and tsunami of March 2011, and the nuclear disasters that resulted from it, Japan generated 30% of its electrical power from nuclear reactors and planned to increase that share to 40%... Many of Japan's nuclear plants have been closed, or their operation has been suspended for safety inspections. The last of Japan's 50 reactors (Tomari-3) went offline for maintenance on May 5, 2012.,[18] leaving Japan completely without nuclear-produced electrical power for the first time since 1970. Despite protests, on 1 July 2012 unit 3 of the Ōi Nuclear Power Plant was restarted.[19] As of September 2012, Ōi units 3 and 4 are Japan's only operating nuclear power plants, although the city and prefecture of Osaka have requested they be shut down
5 posted on 08/28/2013 9:54:52 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: TexGrill
Well give them a break, every time they rebuild, Godzilla comes and destroys so they have to conserve that energy in case of emergency.

Translation: "Oh no, we just rebuilt the city and now Godzilla is back and this time with Obamazilla"

6 posted on 08/28/2013 9:59:30 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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7 posted on 08/28/2013 10:02:01 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

sometimes, I walk to my car in the middle of summer, with the temp in the high 90’s and I don’t automatically turn the AC on...I start driving home with the windows up just to see how long I can stand it....I know, its nuts.....but relaxing too....


8 posted on 08/28/2013 10:07:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: staytrue

i believe it’s both. and currently more related than usual japan-style conformity.


9 posted on 08/28/2013 10:09:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cherry

You’re not alone. Well, sort of...lol. I live in the deep South and rarely use my car’s A/C!

I love the hot summer and like to drive with the windows down!


10 posted on 08/28/2013 10:10:31 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: cherry

Nothing will age an engine faster than running your A/C all the time (other than no oil in engine). Always start with A/C off until engine warms up.


11 posted on 08/28/2013 10:12:20 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: TexGrill

i have pets that are heat-sensitive as well as older, i’ll be damned if i won’t make sure they are okay and cool.


12 posted on 08/28/2013 10:12:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ray76

I watch the Japanese English-language channel a good bit. Everyone within the range of the Fukishima plant is on three-quarter usage....even at factories and plants. If you live outside of this region...you might have trimmed your usage by ten percent....just to show you are helping.

The truth is...Japan built itself throughout the last three decades on a very marginal and limited electrical generation plan. I doubt if they go into a regular lifestyle for at least another five years.


13 posted on 08/28/2013 10:16:29 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

“Nothing will age an engine faster than running your A/C all the time (other than no oil in engine).”

Nonsense.


14 posted on 08/28/2013 11:01:18 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

My 1998 Chevy Silverado has the AC constantly on in the summer, Georgia, 200,000 miles and no problems. Where do you get your information?


15 posted on 08/28/2013 11:08:00 PM PDT by ivan65
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To: onyx

I love the hot summer and like to drive with the windows down!”

Me, too. But I also put the top down on the convertible and then I turn the A/C on, put in a CD and crank the volume up a bit. People probably just shake their head but then we oldsters are thought to be a bit strange, so why not take advantage of it.


16 posted on 08/28/2013 11:24:39 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

ROFLOL! What baloney!


17 posted on 08/28/2013 11:29:45 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Grams A

LOLOL. God bless sweetest, beautiful you!
I would do the same if I had a convertible!
WOW & Woo-Hoo!
I also play my Rolling Stones’ CD’s at high volume!


18 posted on 08/28/2013 11:45:51 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Same here. I was born and raised in Atlantic canada and I find it pathetic that idiots still wear hoodies at this summer heat in freakin’ Los Angeles. It takes a lot to tell people I just saw here in 80 degree weather why they’re wearing leather jackets. This is heaven to us ex canucks who are used to -20 weather LOL


19 posted on 08/29/2013 12:30:37 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

Oh gosh! I hate winter weather! - 20? Yikes! I’d be happy to have summer year round.


20 posted on 08/29/2013 1:00:03 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: TexGrill

380 dollar electric bill for me last month.. and i have it set to 77..


21 posted on 08/29/2013 1:41:46 AM PDT by freshlook
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To: freshlook

Wow that electric bill is high. Last month during a heat wave in Beijing my electric bill was about $30 US dollars. I had the thermostat at 70.


22 posted on 08/29/2013 2:10:48 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

I was in Japan on business a few times back when liberals were still fretting about a new ice age, and even then, the Japanese refused to use the air conditioning that they already had. In hot weather, their offices were like saunas.

This unwillingness to use A/C is nothing new with the Japanese. They seem to have an entirely different standard of personal comfort than we do.


23 posted on 08/29/2013 2:12:31 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

The Chinese act goofy too about climate-controlled offices. Last summer, I made sure the air conditioner stayed on in the office and a group of women, out of protest, dressed up wearing winter coats and scarves. I called them eskimoes. But these same eskimoes who freaked out about air conditioning acted the opposite when the heat in the office got turned on in the dead of winter. They insisted on opening all the windows even when it -10 F outside. And guess what, they didn’t wear coats in the office. Many Chinese would drink boiling water in the summer and room temperature water in the winter. I was curious about these actions and apparently there’s some Chinese tale that airconditioning and heating causes sickness if the windows are closed.


24 posted on 08/29/2013 2:26:22 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

I live in Japan ..Have a house in the country in the mountains , not air conditioned , and a music studio next to the the main house , which is . Electric bill for July was $ 60 . NOt bad .


25 posted on 08/29/2013 2:56:02 AM PDT by sushiman ( .)
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To: sushiman

Sounds reasonable. But do you get bored living away from an urban area?


26 posted on 08/29/2013 2:59:27 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

I know a Chinese-American lady who won’t use soap for washing clothes, dishes, or herself, maintaining that it’s harmful. I know it may not be because she’s Chinese but merely crazy.


27 posted on 08/29/2013 3:29:08 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: TexGrill

Sometimes ...But bus/train transportation is superb so I can be in the a big city like Kumamoto or Fukuoka within 2 hours . I pay $ 40 a year for the bus to and from Fukuoka and can use it as many times as I wish in 1 year . Great deal . BTW - my water ( pure ) bill per month is $ 15 .


28 posted on 08/29/2013 3:41:15 AM PDT by sushiman ( .)
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To: onyx

> I love the hot summer and like to drive with the windows down!

It’s too bad the car makers knuckled in to the insurance companies and got rid of the corner vent windows that we used to have on every car. You didn’t need A/C with a vent window. It would scoop the air and blast it through the vehicle interior. The insurance companies targeted the vent windows by claiming that they made the car too easy to steal. Now you have to have A/C to survive.


29 posted on 08/29/2013 4:28:27 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Oh my goodness! I never knew what happened to those wonderful corner vent windows! Thank you so much for telling me!!!!


30 posted on 08/29/2013 4:32:16 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: sushiman
I lived in Japan for years and much of their home-use energy is gas. Stove top cooking, heating the bath water and heating the houses/apartments in cold weather. Also, relatively few people use electric clothes dryers, prefering to hang things in the sun.
Their electric usage is minimal in the home but their subways and trains are electric.. and the businesses sure like the gaudy lights.
31 posted on 08/29/2013 4:41:25 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: pepsionice

Tokyo is as regular as you want it to be. If you like to party, party. I’m at a gig right now (as usual) and we are using lots of energy and smoking and drinking and having fun. This article has no relation to myself or the people I hang out with. Its just a stupid hit piece. The only time people done use the air conditioner is to simply save a little cash, just like the rest of the world. Some folks were susceptible and died. End of story.


32 posted on 08/29/2013 4:41:58 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.g)
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To: luvbach1

That’s crazy, not a Chinese thing. One good thing about living in the Asia-Pacific region is that you never have to worry about smelling body odor. But when I visited Malayia 10 years ago, that’s another story. The Chinese Malay were clean but others? Well, ...


33 posted on 08/29/2013 4:42:41 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Nothing will age an engine faster than running your A/C all the time (other than no oil in engine). Always start with A/C off until engine warms up.

You know many newer cars run the A/C compressor when you turn the defroster on. It does two things. It dries the air and it helps to keep the A/C compressor lubricated in the winter, when you're not using it to cool the car. I have two cars over 100,000 miles. Neither of them suffer from running the A/C at start-up.

34 posted on 08/29/2013 7:24:17 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: TexGrill
I was curious about these actions and apparently there’s some Chinese tale that airconditioning and heating causes sickness if the windows are closed.

When I was stationed in Korea, it was a superstition there that leaving a fan on in a room with windows and doors closed would suck the air out of a room.

35 posted on 08/29/2013 7:30:48 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Nothing will age an engine faster than running your A/C all the time

So the 100 million cars running around like that in the US will die a premature death? Really??

36 posted on 08/29/2013 7:38:36 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
A/C off until engine warms up.

Unnecessary. But waiting to hit the button for 20-30 seconds as the oil pressure builds is always a good idea, as is not racing the engine during the same interval.

37 posted on 08/29/2013 7:44:46 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

We put a floor fan on for our dog. He parks himself in front of it and just sleeps away the hot part of the day. He knows all about a/c and will elect to sleep in the bedroom on very hot nights when we have the portable a/c running and he will sometimes, but not always, follow us upstairs to the rooms we keep cool for the computers. We move the portable a/c into the room my husband uses when he has clients on hot days. We have a/c in our shop building, but if we don’t have to work there on a hot day, we just don’t. Otherwise, we use ceiling fans, floor fans and just stay in the areas with the best ventilation, overhanging eaves and a ceiling fan. Or we spend the day in the pool, if at all possible.

We always have a/c on in the vehicles because the dog is with us. We will take turns staying in the car so we can leave the a/c on for him. He knows where all the vents are and gets close to them until he cools down, then he retreats a bit. You can watch his tongue retreat back into his mouth and his breathing slow down as he reaches a comfortable temperature.

The cat loves the heat and avoids the a/c.

We only use limited a/c when it goes above 85 with high humidity. I love a/c and only ration it due to the cost.


38 posted on 08/29/2013 7:45:01 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: cherry

Yeah, I can generally handle the 90s here in the dry heat as long as I’m feeling good otherwise, but go somewhere with humidity and 85 floors me.


39 posted on 08/29/2013 7:46:41 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: onyx

when I was growing up they hadn’t invented air conditioning and no one died!!!

In Sept. and Oct. with temperatures over 100 they didn’t cancel school ot football practice, they just opened the windows and you sweat!

People today are a bunch of spoiled pussies!


40 posted on 08/29/2013 8:09:12 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: onyx

Twenty below Canadian is just four below American.


41 posted on 08/29/2013 2:26:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: IYAS9YAS

My Korean ex-wife also claimed that a fan with the windows closed would cause cancer.


42 posted on 08/29/2013 6:35:03 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: steve86; nascarnation; IYAS9YAS; Kirkwood; ivan65; Nik Naym
I never fight here at FR, but I'm ready to go down swinging on this one.. No one can tell me that heavy A/C use does not shorten an engine's survival. Horsepower is degraded when A/C is on because A/C is a 'drag' on the engine. An engine has to work harder when A/C is on, versus when it's not in use. TRY IT YOURSELF, from a dead stop with A/C on, versus A/C off. You can't tell me that A/C isn't a drag on an engine. I'll get back to you when I hit the 300,000 mile mark on my 1.8T engine. I DO use A/C, but very very sparingly.. /snicker spit.

Don't EVER race with your A/C on! You might as well throw your white hanky out the window! You here at FR are all my brothers, but go ahead.. Try and 'dog house' me on this one.


43 posted on 08/30/2013 12:16:55 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

It’s all a matter of degree. These days most engines run 200,000 miles plus and I’d bet most of the ones in the sunbelt and the southwest have the A/C on all the time six months of the year.

Is there any evidence engines in Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi fail quicker than the ones in Maine and Vermont?


44 posted on 08/30/2013 12:27:20 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: nascarnation

Good question.. Do a lot of engine blocks crack under harsh weather conditions or temperature extremes? I would think cold climate engine starts is brutal on a motor, too. I’m gonna try to get 300,000 out of my current motor (1.8T). I baby it like a kid and run fully synthetic motor oil. LOL


45 posted on 08/30/2013 12:37:24 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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No one can tell me that heavy A/C use does not shorten an engine's survival.

What, by 30 miles out of 300,000? (on an otherwise well-cared for powerplant).

Horsepower is degraded when A/C is on because A/C is a 'drag' on the engine.

Yes, the compressor use 5-6 hp peak on a small 4, which I have.

TRY IT YOURSELF, from a dead stop with A/C on, versus A/C off.

Yes, I can feel the difference in acceleration on this four cylinder vehicle. But very little. A passenger would have a hard time detecting the difference if they couldn't see me hitting the switch.

Don't EVER race with your A/C on!

On most vehicles a solenoid or switch disables the compressor at full throttle, for passing, etc.

Don't take it so personally and have a great weekend!

46 posted on 08/30/2013 12:39:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: TexGrill

I ADORE air conditioning. and room service. and valet parking.

heaven.
:)


47 posted on 08/30/2013 12:40:56 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
I would think cold climate engine starts is brutal on a motor, too.

100% correct especially if the oil film has run off metal to metal mating surfaces in the interval since the engine was last run.

This is where some synthetics come in really handy, and, even more so, a block heater.

I see you have discovered the synthetics.

48 posted on 08/30/2013 12:42:06 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Cold starts causing durability problems used to be an issue in the days of 30W oil and carburetors. Slow oil flow and lots of extra gas in the cylinder from chokes.

Now with 5W and 0W oils and computer control, those issues are resolved.

As for running the AC, in Vegas they buy used cop cars with 100,000 miles and run them as cabs to 400,000. You can bet the a/c is on all the time there in the summer.


49 posted on 08/30/2013 12:52:33 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I have a 400hp engine and 1.3hp compressor. Don’t think I’d notice it much.


50 posted on 08/30/2013 1:00:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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