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Laser Attack Reported Near Moscow Airport (Russia)
RIA Novosti ^ | 08/29/2013 | RIA Novosti

Posted on 08/28/2013 10:43:36 PM PDT by TexGrill

MOSCOW, August 29 (RIA Novosti) - Unknown people pointed a laser beam at a passenger jet as it was preparing to land outside Moscow late Wednesday, the Russian Interior Ministry’s transport department has reported.

The purported laser attack targeted a Tupolev Tu-204 jet, bound from the city of Krasnodar in south Russia to Moscow, as the plane was approaching Vnukovo Airport, a department spokesman told RIA Novosti on Thursday.

The plane landed normally, and all 220 passengers and 8 crew were unhurt, despite the jet's pilot saying he had been blinded by the beam, the Life News tabloid reported.

An investigation is underway.

The incident is the latest in a string of similar attacks. Several aircraft have been targeted by laser pointers in Moscow and St. Petersburg in August alone.

After a series of incidents involving lasers near airports in 2011, the lower house of Russia’s parliament, the State Duma, proposed such attacks should be punishable with prison terms of up to seven years in prison.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.rian.ru ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: russiaeconomy
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1 posted on 08/28/2013 10:43:36 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

It’s just Muzzies on jihad.


2 posted on 08/28/2013 10:46:09 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Lazer jihad?


3 posted on 08/28/2013 10:57:12 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

Bingo!

UK: Military and police helicopters targeted by lasers coming from Birmingham, a predominantly Muslim area
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/07/03/uk-military-and-police-helicopters-targeted-by-lasers-coming-from-birmingham-a-predominantly-muslim-area/

Muslim Terrorists Aim Green Laser Beam At Sun Country Airlines Flight 8800 Over J.F.K. Airport
http://www.romancatholicimperialist.org/2012/08/muslim-terrorists-aim-green-laser-beam.html

Laser Pointers from the Muslim Mid-WEST, Illegal Immigration & Abu Moskowitz
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/1017/laser-pointers-from-the-muslim-mid-west-illegal-immigration-abu-moskowitz/


4 posted on 08/28/2013 11:03:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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5 posted on 08/28/2013 11:04:50 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: TexGrill
...all 220 passengers and 8 crew were unhurt...

That's 228 people who are considerably braver than I. Board a Russian aircraft? Board a Russian aircraft in the employ of a (presumably) Russian airline? I'd sooner shovel sidewalks stark naked in the middle of February!

6 posted on 08/28/2013 11:43:39 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: TexGrill

This has become a frequent problem in the Bay Area of North Cal. I’m not smart enough to be an engineer, but I would think somebody should be trying to develop glass for the cockpit area that is capable of reflecting the laser beam back out with close to equal force as it is absorbed by the glass dome. This repelled or bounced off beam should be sent back down at roughly the same trajectory as it was fed to the glass. This would be poetic justice if ever perfected, where a joker shining a laser gun at a jet would then himself become blinded by that boomerang beam. Okay, maybe it’s still science fiction for this week, just you wait.


7 posted on 08/28/2013 11:43:56 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Standing Wolf

Most of the airlines fly Boeings now. Aeroflot and S7 (Siberian Airlines) are pretty good.

I’ve flown Rusian airlines in the good old days, when the stewardesses used to offer bootleg caviar. those were the days...


8 posted on 08/28/2013 11:48:38 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: TexGrill

Tu 204

9 posted on 08/29/2013 12:07:13 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: TexGrill
I quit worrying about lasers on pilots after I watched the Egyptian helicopters calmly circle the crowds below. Red lasers, green lasers, blue lasers... take your pick.


10 posted on 08/29/2013 12:14:43 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: TexGrill

This happens all the time in the USA, every day somewhere. The green lasers are worse than the red ones.


11 posted on 08/29/2013 12:16:34 AM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: lee martell
"North Cal. I’m not smart enough to be an engineer, but I would think somebody should be trying to develop glass for the cockpit area that is capable of reflecting the laser beam back out ..."

Good idea Lee. I would be surprised if no one has thought of it. We have had thin film optical coatings for at least seventy or eighty years. One of the pioneering companies was/is in Santa Rosa, your neck of the woods? For this threat I’d look for a tunable optical coating coupled to a cheap spectrometer to identify the frequency of any radiation of sufficient power to be dangerous, and apply a potential (voltage) to the coating, probably sandwiched like safety glass in the cockpit windows, to adjust its thickness to reflect the energy. The protective coating might simply be applied to goggles, but goggles or windows, the idea is reasonable.

We already have optical coatings that reflect most visible and infra red frequencies, but are transparent to an optical window in our sky that causes heat on earth to “see” the almost absolute zero temperature of space, enabling "Carnot" cooling of the space behind a window. Unfortunately, the building with the window to space would need to be extremely well insulated for the cooling effect to dominate the heating caused by air leaks around windows and doors. But optical coatings are widely used, and I believe some optical telescopes have tunable coatings already.

12 posted on 08/29/2013 12:49:56 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Chechnyans.


13 posted on 08/29/2013 1:53:48 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: TexGrill

pilot was blinded? temporary or permanent?

couldn’t the glass on these jets be designed to diffuse the light?


14 posted on 08/29/2013 2:32:13 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Or just the same type of jerk that does the same thing near U.S. airports. “Stupid” seems to be a universal attribute.


15 posted on 08/29/2013 4:08:18 AM PDT by Pecos (Kritarchy: government by the judges)
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To: eartrumpet

I’m surprised this made the news. This is a nightly occurrence in Sao Paulo, Brazil. It’s usually at least two or three of them.


16 posted on 08/29/2013 4:27:24 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: TexGrill
Probably Gay terrorism. You can only coddle the mentally ill so far before they lash out violently.

Pretty soon they've infiltrated your military and are selling off secrets to your enemies while touting that they are really women trapped in men's bodies and other perversions.

17 posted on 08/29/2013 5:05:15 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Standing Wolf

Your prejudice is certainly not based on facts. Russian airliners are more reliable than their average western counterparts by far. They are built under military philosophy with all critical systems dubbed. Airframes are stronger too giving more chances to walk away from a wreck.


18 posted on 08/30/2013 9:29:11 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: TexGrill

19 posted on 08/30/2013 9:31:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Spaulding

Not doable other than possibly in a DARPA prototype lab and not sensible anyway.

He is talking about dynamically steering the reflected beam, not just tuning the reflectivity. You would need mirrors on piezo controls, at least a pair, that would pivot on on 3D axis to steer the beam back to where it come from.

No one would ever do it that way. In a military application, you would just fire your own laser beam (or other weapon) back at the incoming fire. Why bother with reflecting the beam?

The legalities of a civilian airliner firing back at civilians on the ground is a whole ‘nother matter.


20 posted on 08/30/2013 9:43:41 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86
"He is talking about dynamically steering the reflected beam, not just tuning the reflectivity. You would need mirrors on piezo controls, at least a pair, that would pivot on on 3D axis to steer the beam back to where it came from."

Steve I wasn't suggesting returning the energy to the source, though that is commonly done with field artillery, and has been done for fifty years or so, with artillery tracking radar. Firing artillery shells at an aggressor, shells in the air while the incoming is still flying is common. I've done it, though they wouldn't allow us live rounds, which disappointed my team. But steering cockpit windows would be a challenge. It does remind me of some enormous phased array radar antenna that track missiles without physically moving the transmitter elements, but I'm not proposing that for a defensive coating.

But I surmise that piezo-controlled thin film could diffract or reflect enough of the energy to protect the humans from incoming lasers. And yes. Darpa would be one place to do it. Having worked on Darpa projects at a government lab, if you want it done efficiently, use the private sector. Sounds like you may know about that?

We did use piezo-controlled mirrors to eliminate most atmospheric diffraction from earth-based optics, usually mirrors, for astronomical and other applications, as you can probably imagine. There are some very big telescope in Hawaii that use the technique to great advantage, almost eliminating the advantage of space-based telescopes, where diffraction from atmospheric effects causes stars to ‘shimmer’.

With the proliferation of laser devices it wouldn't surprised me if some functionally equivalent technology were to become necessary, perhaps along with closing passenger windows for takeoff and landing.

21 posted on 08/30/2013 11:38:06 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

Interesting info you offer. Particularly interested in the adaptive optics.

I did not work on DARPA projects, not even run of the mill classified projects, just HVAC energy-related stuff at a government lab.

My brother, however, worked on some of the original Bayesian Decision Theory algorithms used in missile intercepts. This was in the 70s-80s. Pentagon meetings almost every day and many oversea trips to exotic destinations for conferences. He retired very, very wealthy after owning his own think tank subsequently but lost a huge chunk in the internet bubble crash.


22 posted on 08/31/2013 12:20:58 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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