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New Jersey Adds Several AIR RIFLES to Its Banned Gun List
Guns Save Lives ^ | 9/6/2013 | Dan Cannon

Posted on 09/07/2013 12:47:00 AM PDT by shibumi

Well, it’s official, New Jersey has jumped the shark on gun control (if they already hadn’t).

According to NJ2AS, the state has banned several types of popular, high end, air rifles.

Specifically, any air rifle that is made to be quieter by design.

One example of this is the Gamo Whisper line of rifles.

These rifles make great pest control rifles for people that own some land, but don’t want to disturb nearby neighbors with the sounds of traditional firearms.

From the NJ2AS report,

The New Jersey Second Amendment Society recently obtained a copy of the letter from Lieutenant Joseph Genova, head of the Firearms Investigation Unit (FIU) of the New Jersey Division of State Police, that was sent to NJ firearms retailers regarding the legality of air rifles with internal or barrel mounted baffles designed to reduce noise. In this letter dated August 23, 2013, Lt. Genova makes reference to both air rifles being considered firearms under NJ statute, and that any form of “firearm silencer” is illegal in NJ. (A photograph of the letter can be viewed here: AirRifle2013.pdf).

For the purposes of enforcing New Jersey’s firearms statutes, air and spring-loaded rifles have long been considered firearms. According to this recent letter, any Air Rifles which incorporate noise reduction paraphernalia (specifically the Gamo Whisper .177, .22, DX models and those which are substantially similar) are now considered illegal due to the noise reduction capability.

This situation has come to light as a result of questions regarding air rifles that are legal to use for hunting squirrel and rabbit in New Jersey. 2013 marks the first year the NJ Division of Fish And Game are allowing air rifles to be used for hunting. Prior to this letter dated August 23, 2013, Gamo and other brand air rifles with internal noise dampening devices have been sold to law-abiding NJ gun owners for hunting and recreational shooting purposes.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: airrifle; banglist; guncontrol; gungrabbers; secondamendment
'Cause you'll shoot yer eye out kid!
1 posted on 09/07/2013 12:47:00 AM PDT by shibumi
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To: shibumi

whatever.


2 posted on 09/07/2013 1:12:28 AM PDT by RC one
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To: shibumi

Air rifles (”BB guns’’) have been illegal in Jersey since I was a kid and I’m 57.


3 posted on 09/07/2013 1:29:02 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

In New Jersey you need a state issued Firearms ID card to buy a BB gun. This has been a law for at least 20 years


4 posted on 09/07/2013 2:01:49 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: shibumi

the Gamo Whisper line of rifles

I have one of these. They are certainly NOT quiet. In fact, they’re much louder than a CCI sub-sonic .22 short.

But, should an Air-Rifle be legally classified as a Firearm?


5 posted on 09/07/2013 2:48:21 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: jmacusa

You gotta be kidding me /s

Effing stoopit


6 posted on 09/07/2013 3:00:29 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Paisan

Zactuhmoondoh


7 posted on 09/07/2013 3:01:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Paisan
"But, should an Air-Rifle be legally classified as a Firearm?"

Big Brother doesn't want anyone to have a weapon that would allow them to put food on the table by bypassing the government control agencies. (EPA, Dept. of Interior, Dept. of Agriculture. FDA etc.)

If people can fend for themselves it makes it harder for the FEDGOV to control people.

8 posted on 09/07/2013 3:08:30 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: shibumi
Yep, those things are dangerous, right up there with the Big Gulp.


9 posted on 09/07/2013 4:03:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Paisan
But, should an Air-Rifle be legally classified as a Firearm?

It's utterly ridiculous and the stupidity of it just compounds throughout local statutes. When I lived in Jersey, I technically could've gone through the rigamarole to get a firearms permit for a Daisy Red Ryder. But I wouldn't have been able to shoot it on my property legally, because our municipality had an ordinance against discharging firearms within town limits.

Air guns need to be reclassified in NJ. If they want to stick a velocity cap on it, fine, but don't go telling me that a Red Ryder is the equivalent of a .22.

And while we're on the topic, a hunting state like PA should definitely lift its ban on hunting with air guns.

10 posted on 09/07/2013 4:09:17 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud

Claud wrote: “Air guns need to be reclassified in NJ. If they want to stick a velocity cap on it, fine...”

It’s that kind of ‘give-em-an-inch’ thinking that gets us to the current state of oppression in this country. If you will give up a ‘velocity cap’, today, you will give up more at some later point.

The progressives and socialists know this, and they are willing to play that game.

NJ, as a state, likely has the authority to set limits within their borders (although I disagree with that notion,too). If the fine folks of NJ choose to live that way, so be it. If not, they should be moving out. Or, at least pushing for changes to the legislation, electing true conservative legislators, etc.


11 posted on 09/07/2013 4:28:43 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: jmacusa
Air rifles (”BB guns’’) have been illegal in Jersey since I was a kid and I’m 57.

And I though NY was bad. Grew up in Rochester and moved to the 'burbs when I was 10 (1962). Me and my friends would take our BB guns out in the nearby woods and fields all the time and have a great time.

12 posted on 09/07/2013 4:31:18 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: shibumi

It’s time to ban water pistols, spitballs and nerf guns......and most importantly @$$hole politicians!


13 posted on 09/07/2013 4:34:30 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: shibumi
I think I was in New Jersey once. I was driving along some expressway. For miles and miles, there were these factories, some which billowed smoke, others which had puffs of orange flame coming out of stacks. I likened it to being in Hell.

Apparently, I was 100% correct.

14 posted on 09/07/2013 4:41:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Paisan

Is there anything of that type that actually is quiet? I wouldn’t mind punching paper here in suburbia without giving the neighbors the vapors.


15 posted on 09/07/2013 5:17:49 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Riley

Probably the cheaper, less than 1000fps, versions. Gamo has these, or Crossman I think...


16 posted on 09/07/2013 5:24:56 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: shibumi

17 posted on 09/07/2013 5:49:30 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Lazamataz

Remember the SNL skit with Joe Piscopo in which he shows NJrs as being brain damaged from the pollution?

New Jersey was not amused.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 6:39:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Fzob
Where does fatman stand on this? You know, the "conservative repub" governor. or...the fat guy many here awhile back want him to run for Prez.

A Big Fat Joke.

FMCDH(BITS)

19 posted on 09/07/2013 7:09:33 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Riley
Is there anything of that type that actually is quiet? I wouldn’t mind punching paper here in suburbia without giving the neighbors the vapors.

If you prefer to use your .22, these are very quiet, quieter in fact than my pellet gun. I use them here (houses on each side of me) to control the squirrel population that decimates my pecans. Neighbors never hear a thing.

They're also great for indoor practice. One thick phone book is enough for a backstop, two or three just to be extra safe. Note: They will not cycle a semiauto.

Super Colibri

20 posted on 09/07/2013 7:09:46 AM PDT by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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To: Jed Eckert
These rounds are powered by the rimfire primer only. They must only be fired in handguns. If fired in rifles, the bullet may remain lodged in the barrel.
•Will not cycle the slide of semi-automatic handguns

Of no use against blue helmets, unless you can get within a few yards...

21 posted on 09/07/2013 9:49:10 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Paisan

The Fast and light weight pellets Are Loud!

Try the Heavy pellets,they are slower and VERY much suppressed, Try the Tomahawk pellet.


22 posted on 09/07/2013 10:16:10 AM PDT by Big Red Badger ("don't hurt me , G 'man!")
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To: Vendome

Nope. been like that for years. Slingshots are illegal too.


23 posted on 09/07/2013 10:36:46 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Lazamataz

I also drove through New Jersey once.

I saw the same stuff.

I made the mistake of thinking that I was right here.


24 posted on 09/07/2013 10:37:38 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: trebb

Been like that here in Jersey for years. Slingshots are illegal too.


25 posted on 09/07/2013 10:38:07 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: shibumi

I also drove through New Jersey once.

ONCE.


26 posted on 09/07/2013 12:27:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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