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The man who started the First World War
The Telegraph UK ^ | August 30, 2013 | Tim Butcher

Posted on 09/09/2013 2:08:36 PM PDT by Ravnagora

Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife descend the steps of the City Hall, Sarajevo, and innocent bystander Ferdinand Behr, inset Photo: © IWM

History has not been kind to the teenager who triggered the First World War by assassinating Archduke Franz Ferdinand on a sunny Sunday morning in Sarajevo.

So colossal was the impact of his actions and so modest his backwoodsman background that the story of Gavrilo Princip has often been overlooked, misrepresented and misunderstood.

Muddled theories, often as batty as they are unverifiable, have circulated ever since Princip fired his Browning 9mm pistol on June 28, 1914: he was working for the Freemasons, an agent of the Russian secret service, a diehard Serbian nationalist, an unwitting puppet of German warmongers.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: balkans; princip; serbs; wwi

1 posted on 09/09/2013 2:08:36 PM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora

Islamic terrorist version 1.0.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 2:15:50 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Ravnagora

Gavrilo Princip... if Zero had a great-grandfather...


3 posted on 09/09/2013 2:19:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Ravnagora

100 years ago next year, and while this was the fuse strike, by that time so much tinder had been built up, that hindsight would say that something somewhere would have started “The Guns of August or September or October ...” The leaders of Europe, bith sides, were all convinced that it would be THEIR show of strength that would FORCE the other side to back down. THEY WERE WRONG and it took 2 World Wars to settle it.


4 posted on 09/09/2013 2:19:47 PM PDT by SES1066 (To expect courteous government is insanity!)
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To: Ravnagora

The Kaiser, in my opinion.


5 posted on 09/09/2013 2:21:44 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Ravnagora

“and innocent bystander Ferdinand Behr”

Does this mean he was also assassinated? The photo looks like Gavrilo Princip, whom they say was the assassin.


6 posted on 09/09/2013 2:22:02 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Ravnagora
I recently read 1913: In Search of the World Before the Great War by Charles Emmerson and have just begun The First World War by Hew Strachan. Such a fascinating time period that seems to get very little attention these days.
7 posted on 09/09/2013 2:22:47 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: kaehurowing

The linked article says, “The Slav community that Princip’s family belonged to followed eastern Orthodox Christianity....”


8 posted on 09/09/2013 2:23:47 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Ravnagora

My Sister and Brother-in-Law are visiting in Serbia right now.

They have actually been in Europe for six months and will have to stay until November because they both had emergency dental surgery in Budapest, Hungary.

I thought my Sister’s description of the countries and people were interesting. She said that Hungary is much more advanced but the people do not offer assistance. On the other hand she said they are very good if you actually ask them for help. They have some sort of Euro pass for elderly people and she said they never even check it in Hungary.

She describes the Serbians as very friendly. They got on a bus and 3 young men stood up and gave them their seats. They do check for your pass tho. She also said the food is great in Serbia tho they have problems until their teeth get fixed permanently.


9 posted on 09/09/2013 2:25:00 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Ravnagora

I often believed that Gavrilo Princip should have been the Man of the 20th Century. Just look at all what started from there and World War I.


10 posted on 09/09/2013 2:26:11 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Ravnagora

***Princip fired his Browning 9mm pistol***

Browning .32 auto pistol. I used to have one just like it.


11 posted on 09/09/2013 2:42:12 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: kaehurowing

AFAIK, he was definitely a diehard Serbian nationalist and a member of a secret society but it may not have mattered anyway because the facts of the assassination were manipulated by Austria and Germany for the purposes of power politics and ultimately embarking on a war.


12 posted on 09/09/2013 2:46:06 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: workerbee
I'm finishing Christopher Clark's The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went To War In 1914. Great stuff. The author laments that the combined bibliographies (in all languages) on this topic amount to some 25,000 works, more than any human could read in a lifetime.

Princip did not act alone. Clark provides exquisite detail about how he was recruited and supported by the Serbian Black Hand, and what happened to his co-assassins. The Archduke's wife was shot because she was trying to cover her husband with her body. And the Archduke was not Serbia's enemy.

13 posted on 09/09/2013 2:47:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: kaehurowing

Eastern Orthodox.


14 posted on 09/09/2013 2:48:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

In the book “John Browning, American Gunmaker” It mentions that one of his FN .32 autos was used in the assassination. No one remembers his commenting on that fact.

Interestingly, the little .32 was his favorite pistol despite the fact that he designed some of the most famous pistols ever.


15 posted on 09/09/2013 2:56:30 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Ravnagora

Arrested moments after the shooting in Sarajevo, he was under the 20-year age limit required by Habsburg law for the death sentence. Instead, he was sentenced to 20 years in jail, to be denied food once a day each month. He died in 1918, shortly before the end of the war. Aged 23, his body had become racked by skeletal tuberculosis that ate away his bones so badly that his right arm had had to be amputated.


interesting sentence, under age for death sentence and one day a month without food.


16 posted on 09/09/2013 2:59:34 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Ravnagora
Princip fired his Browning 9mm pistol

Brits and journalists. Probably don't know any better.

It was an FN, Browning designed. In .380 (aka 9mm Browning, Short, Kurtz or Korto) not the modern 9x19.

17 posted on 09/09/2013 3:52:32 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o; kaehurowing

***Eastern Orthodox.***

The Orthodox feared a German-Austrian reperssion of them after this so they appealed to the Czar if Russia for help.

Russia mobilized their armies, Germany and allies (Turkey) saw this as a provocation and declared WAR! In came Britain and France against Germany.

Interesting that the Kaiser, Czar and King of England were cousins, all grandsons of Queen Victoria.


18 posted on 09/09/2013 3:57:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; kaehurowing
I understand that it was the Czar's wife Czarina Alexandra, who was Queen Victoria's grandchild.
19 posted on 09/09/2013 4:26:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I believe you are right.


20 posted on 09/09/2013 4:31:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ravnagora

kaiser wilhelm II the german obama started it


21 posted on 09/09/2013 7:02:03 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: Billthedrill
I haven't read Clark's book but David Fromkin's Europe's Last Summer: Who Started the Great War in 1914? is a good read.

Vladimir Dedijer's book The Road to Sarajevo has a lot on Princip and the other conspirators--I believe one of the men involved in the plot was still alive when Dedijer was writing the book.

22 posted on 09/09/2013 9:56:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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