Posted on 09/13/2013 9:29:06 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
The matador’s bright red cape and his agile moves to anger and tire the animal are the outstanding metaphor used by Attorney W. L. Albert. Moore, Jr., who is bringing an Amicus Curiae in support of lead appellant L. Dean Johnson in the request for an Alabama Supreme Court oral argument in yet another case dismissed by lower courts in the Barack Obama eligibility saga.
Moore, no relation to Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore, is a nationally certified fraud attorney who has a completely new angle on the American political nightmare that just will not die. Moore told CiR in a very lengthy phone interview on September 3, that the “real issue is not the eligibility clause (2-1-5, US Constitution), but the fact that Obama would not or did not register for Selective Service, thereby signifying his LOSS of US CITIZENSHIP! The issue is not Obama’s status at birth–Obama probably is an NBC–but rather...
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He did not register because he was not a citizen at the time.
Later he decided he was a citizen, but was then too old to register. Case closed.
/s
If true, God has heard Freepers prayers worldwide !
You can lose your citizenship for not registering to SS, who lots of men have not done that.
I thought you just went to jail.
If he registered he would not be able to get “Foreign Student Aid”.
Great looking guys. GW was so darn cute!
I only want to know one thing, is this going anywhere or not?
While it is indeed a federal crime not to register for the Selective Service when one is required to do so, a person does not "lose his citizenship" if he fails to do so.
The underlying article here is spouting nonsense.
I didn’t have to. Born in ‘59.
The year "80" on the postal date stamp was derived from a "2008" stamp where the "08" was flipped to make "80". This also explains why there's no "19" with the "80".
Also, why is the postal date stamp one day prior to 0bama signing it?
Not likely. Some court somewhere will strike it down as having no merit.
What do you think?
True.
A couple of years ago we had to help my step-son get his security clearance to work on a submarine base with a work group (he's learning disabled). It turned out that his mother had never registered him, and didn't think she needed to since he was disabled... turn out she should have anyway, but we got past that with a simple letter from her stating that he didn't not register due to any sort of Anti-American attitude or anything like that. No big deal.
Actually, despite my desire to see it so, I do not think this is possible. My recollection that loss of citizenship takes a personal avowal or renunciation of citizenship, not failing to fill out some Selective Service Form is not one of those options.
If you will recall, President Jimmy Carter bestowed amnesty on many, many draft evaders and elusive SS candidates now at the forefront of our government (BTW, among he recipients of this amnesty was John Kerry who conspired against the US at the behest of North Viet Nam while he was still technically in the US Navy. If anyone were to examine his SF186, they would realize that his discharge under other than honorable conditions was amnestied to ‘honorable’ by Carter’s order.)
Regardless, this goes nowhere...
IOW, I just don’t believe this is a citizenship
Barry Soetoro was in Indonesia at that time, right?
You don’t lose citizenship by no signing up for selective service. You lose federal student loans and a few other minor things.
I don’t think you can get a federal paycheck if you did not register if required.
He is patently not a NBC given his longstanding claim of his daddy having been Kenyan. I know nothing about the author’s theory of granddaddy Dunham. If there’s anything to it, it needs some evidence please. I doubt it if only because of the racial aspect. The Indonesian citizenship has never received sufficient discussion, IMHO. But it is there and probably explains the trip to Pakistan too. Finally, if he is an American citizen at all, I don’t know that said status is lost for a selective service violation. The usual result is residency in gaol, of course, and not in the White House. Truly we live in “interesting times “. . And how the entire judicial system can so invalidate itself by refusing to do its job in this matter is both amazing and Damniing indeed. We Americans always thought we lived in a nation of law. Alas, pray for America.
I think we all know the answer to that question.
As I understand it there are many other anomalies with this but that aside. The assumption is that someone took a Jul 29 2008 stamp and modified it. So my question is does the post office saves stamps? If so for how long? If they do then one might ask a few Chicago area post offices to produce a Jul 29 2008 stamp and thus might be able to find the source of the modified stamp? Just asking.
I thought you just went to jail.
Actually, the truth is neither will happen. The last case that was prosecuted was 1986 (which only resulted in a fine) and since then the government has refused to prosecute SS dodgers for fear of public backlash against the selective service system.
Although I’m not 100% certain I’d bet the clothes on my back that you can’t lose your *US citizenship* yy not registering.It seems possible that you could lose your Green Card by failing to do so but not citizenship.That’s not to say that there aren’t penalties.But given several SCOTUS decisions over the last 40-50 years it’s very,*very* difficult to lose one’s US citizenship short of formally renouncing it.
That signature does not look like the signature of an 18 year old....just sayin
Look at the thugee!
Was he using his current name back then?
Everyone already knows that the problems IS NOT the birth certificate- it is that he is not a citizen.
It will go nowhere.
Sorry.
So what’s your point. All the babble about O hasn’t removed him from office. And as far as I can see from the judiciary, he will serve out this term (no one in congress has the spine to impeach and find him guilty). The only question left is will he leave office at the end of his term or follow his buddy Hugo Chavez into elected once served for life
The only known consequence of not registering that I know of is not being able to hold a Federal job. No bennies for you!
Ditto. I had to register after my release from the U.S. Navy; I enlisted at 17.
Ok, but that other one still doesn’t look like that of an 18 year old.
Photoshop
I didn’t realize that pic was so big....
“LOST his citizenship by not registering for Selective Service”
Good grief, get a life. You don’t lose citizenship status by not registering.
You birthers need to stay a bit more real world.
The code string in the upper right-hand corner (identified by the word “FRAUDULENT” in fuscia) has also proven to be inconsistent and is a “one off” numerical string queer to this single application.
Surrounding applications (ending in both 31 and 33 do not use the equivalent string.
I’d be more interested in a verifiiable signature from, say, May 1980.
I’m a bit foggy but didn’t he adjust his signature as he ran for political office to be closer to an Organizing group (ACORN comes to mind).
From about 2005 and later, the “b” of Obama was moved inside the “O”. Prior to that, it was outside and to the right as a normal signaure would be.
That seems more likely as there is nothing in the current Selective Service law which implies that you lose your citizenship for failure to comply. Only that you won’t be eligible for Federal student aid of a Federal job.
In fact the law says all male NON-US CITIZENS living in the US on their 18th birthday must register. Including ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Yeah, SURE they are.
Justice Roberts told us:
He was voted in by the popular vote thru the electoral college. Nothing...
NOTHING...
changes that so he is POTUS.
And by “nothing changes that” he ^literally^ means any and all Constitutional requirements.
Robeerts ultimately means to say that each and every election modifies and changes the Constitution to conform with the outcome of that election; the Constitution is a living, breathing, fluid document that bends to the will of the people who vote (or are perceived to have voted).
YMMV
Please review post #38 and get back to us.
If Hussein considered himself to be a foreign student, then he didn’t need to register. Fine by me...but
Once his handlers told him that he need an SS record (due to brithdate issues**) to “run for president”, well, he somehow found a record of registration.
BTW, Jump off the perjorative “birther” wagon. Your protestations only look to be “slurping” for Obamugabe which I don’t want to agree with. You’re better than ad hominem attacks, aren’t you?
** Interestingly enough, Obama has previously presented himself to the world as being approximately 5-7 years older than his current age; why. There is just SO MUCH inconsistency with this guy.
Nothing will take down Obama, mark my words, but if he was a conservative, he would have been long gone.
Your post #2 is a hoot.
If that means you think the Obamanation will be impeached and removed, keep praying.
Doesn’t 0bummer have any ID that isn’t forged?
Neither, the only negative to not registering is a bar from federal employment and not being able to bid on federal contracts. That's about it.
Well, then, - if he's committed a federal crime - does THAT not make him ineligible for POTUS?
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