Skip to comments.Slum Pleasures - The Social Church
Posted on 09/19/2013 8:54:28 PM PDT by ClaytonP
I have received, and published already, the following comment:
This Francis fool was the perfect candidate to weaken Papacy to the point of irrelevance, I visited Argentina 2 years ago, when I was working for a russian news agency and visited some slums in Buenos Aires to cover the work of the curas villeros (slum priests) in the many shanty towns of the capital, I was shocked to see that practically all those priests had concubines and had sons with them, other were openly homosexual or had transexual partners and everyone knew about this!I talked with people from the slums and asked them what did they think about this? their answers were basically the same: its ok, they love each other, they harm nobody I also talked with more cultured (and minoritarian) sectors of the catholic church in Buenos Aires who were infuriated by the situation but they were unable to do anything about it, they said they were largely outnumbered by the populist priests.They also told me that all the high hierarchy of the church in Buenos Aires, Bergoglio included, were aware of the dubious morality of the slum priests, the argentine traditionalist catholics also told me that in those slums the priest is considered a fairy godmother by the poor people who live there, in fact the priests are to many of them the only help since the hypecorrupt state is practically absent, thus the priest is perceived as a good nanny who feeds and takes care, so no one dares or bothers to question his life and morality, to slum people everything the priests do is ok as long as they keep supplying them with free stuff . a doctrine of sterile assistentialism that leads nowhere, keeps the poor in poverty, the lazy in laziness and the sinner happy with his sins.Bergoglio has started to export this model of spiritual misery and moral decay to the rest of the world since he was elected and sadly he will continue vomiting the filthy populist nonsense thats been coming out of argentina provincial, ultracorrupt politics for decades.
This keeps haunting me, so it might be good to say a few words. The foreigner author of the comment is obviously well-read, an intelligent and enquiring mind, and concerned about Christian values. The occasion of his being there – the coverage of priestly activity in the slums – has also given him the opportunity to accumulate a great deal of information.
I have never been in an Argentinian slum, and can therefore not vouch for the truthfulness of what he writes. But boy, it all makes sense.
Let us then, for the sake of the argument, assume that there are a number of priests of that sort in the slums of Buenos Aires, and let us look at the dynamic of such “priesthood”.
A homosexual priest, or a priest so perverted he is attracted to trannies, or even a priest interested in sex with women will, in Bergoglio’s diocese, only have one thing to do: discover his social vocation.
This will allow him to get deep into a world full of the miseries of dire poverty, and profit from it. Prey will be abundant. He will be a distributor of sought after earthly goods, and this will give him not only prestige, but power, and the ability to easily acquire sexual favours. Who will dare to go against his immorality or utter perversion in an environment that not only lives immersed in it, but is more or less heavenly dependant on the favours and help of said priest?
Is it, then, not so, that the slum will attract those priests seeking in it those forbidden pleasures their sensual – or perverted – nature craves for, but that would not be allowed to them in the fairly well-ordered society outside?
I can well imagine the favela as a world apart, with miseries and a moral degradation to match. This is where the perverted priest needs to go if he wants to satisfy his lust undisturbed. He will be powerful and respected, and even those who loathe him will rather shut up than run the risk of being cut out from help when they most need it, or of being surrounded by hostility in their own community.
It goes without saying that such a priest will never be able – or willing – to do his job of saving souls. It isn’t easy to tell people to repent and follow the Commandments when everyone knows you are a priest with a trannie on the side. No, such a priest with talk and act exactly like a Jorge Bergoglio: who am I to judge, the poor here, the poor there, the poor everywhere, and if you criticise the priest you are guilty of “gossip”; which, you might then well say, is akin to “murder”, because you need for the critics to really, really shut up.
At this point, this parody of Christianity can develop all his satanic potential: the priest supposed to reform the slum will become as filthy as the slum itself – or rather, the filth of the slum will attract priests just as filthy, and looking for prey -, whilst the slum dwellers will be left not only without guidance, but with even the horrible example of such priests. The “social” Church in South-American style will pretend to do the good of the poor, but she will betray Christ and help the very poor whose secular agenda she espouses on the path to damnation.
All this, of course, abundantly sprinkled with poverty rhetoric, which is also very useful in making the priest popular and in allowing him to go after his filthy business undisturbed. But hey, someone is “going out” and “helping the poor”, so the Bergoglios of the world will be not only unconcerned, but rather satisfied of the sterling work they are so humbly doing.
Again, we do not know whether the picture painted by our commenter is a realistic one. But… but…
Think of Francis’ reaction when the Ricca scandal erupted. Arrogant jokes about the “gay lobby” not having an ID card, the “who am I to judge” mantra, and an astonishingly stubborn attitude in leaving an exposed sodomite at his place – and in the priesthood -. Is this not the behaviour of one who has lived in the middle of homosexual priests all his priestly life, and has happily ignored their perversion and sodomitic behaviour? Is this not the behaviour of one who does not care two straws whether a priest is a sodomite, and is even unable to understand the scandal that erupts outside of his cosy world when one of his closest men is exposed as one of them? How can one otherwise explain that whilst I write this, Monsignor Ricca is still a priest undisturbed, and is even still occupying his high place?
Francis has brought to us the filth of the favela all right. He glories in it, and speaks of the shepherd who must smell like his sheep; this is, very possibly, another veiled reference that to him, if a priest works in the favela it’s no big deal if he has his own trannie.
We beg to differ.
he is telling US to stop “obsessing”....on Abortion....and so called “gay” so called “marriage”.
this is one evil man.
I've always heard that in Mexico and other Latin American countries filled with lots of Catholics that husband regularly have mistresses...yet they won't feel any less of a Catholic for it...
sort of like the Italian mafia and their "family" values...
Im surprised he didnt call ABortion and Homo “marruage...PHONEY SCANDALS
or perhaps worse ....WHAT DOES IT MATTER ...ala sHrillary clinton
If there is evil afoot, then it is likely evil Jesuits behind the curtain.
Jesuit influence - not simply Catholic. The Pope kicked them out years ago but made the mistake of letting them come up for air. Now they are back and behind all the stupid unholy nonsense we see.
Fat chance the current pope does anything though since Francis is a Jesuit.
Huh? You take the time to post that but not add anything about what you think? Don’t discuss religion and politics...on a public forum...maybe someone will say something I don’t agree with. Wuss!
Exactly....and never forget that Jerry Brown was a Jesuit
Yes——and Bella Dodd wrote about the Marxist (homosexual) infiltration and that happened in South America, Mexico and Latin America before it occurred in America. Marxists/Socialists infiltrated the Catholic Church in all those countries to destroy it from within and take power.
St. Pius X warned us about this in his encyclical “Pascendi” in 1907 or so.
Fr. Oko’s Report basically says it all...... If the Pope doesn’t address this scandal in the Catholic Church and the War inside the Church-—and return us onto the correct path (Truth) and eject all the obvious heretics inside the Church-—then he is a fraud. The fact that this pope was a Jesuit is very troubling. The Smoke of Satan truly entered with Vatican II.
Do we agree in the fundamentals - the Church is under the influence the Jesuits? They are the source of the poison, If we disagree on this point I do no know where to start.
Do you follow the Jesuits or the Church? Decide!
No harm - no foul. I mean this in a brotherly way.You are are a prison guard (or warden) so it is even more important that you open your eyes/1ears.
The people you see everyday. Some are lost completely and will never be redeemed. The others - they need you. You are their charge.
Help save them. Lead them to the Word. And beware the evil Jesuits.
sounds like this country, the immoral leftists are fine and dandy as long as they keep up the supply of free crap to the masses.
Well, I would tell you what I think but you would not like it.
And I’ve had enough of sparring with the Catholics for one day.
Carry on, gents!
May I ask what your beliefs are, Celtic?
How about leaving the Catholic church altogether?
Christ is found outside it, believe it or not.
exactly, launch an independent church
its one thing to have an evil govt, quite another to have evilness in your church...
Hey, here’s the pope’s full interview - listen to what he’s actually saying, not someone else’s words about him.
Jesus went into the slums, that’s where he found Mathew. He didn’t say “you sinner of x, y, z!” rather he loved him and asked him to come, follow him. That’s what Francis is doing.
This focus on the poor has been over-emphasized too much in the last century.
It has been to the near exclusion of all else, and has resulted in a Christian religion that no longer cares about eternal salvation and instead is focused on some vague do-gooderism.
My first reaction to this article was that it was not verifiable. A friend of a friend posted this because a friend he knew saw slum priests who behaved this way. I would have reacted differently if the report had names, faces, and places.
The behavior of the Pope though, is becoming quite fragrant. The false humility is meant to impress and to generate media warmth and headlines. I miss the red shoes.
He needs our prayer, any bishop elevated to that office has a lot of adjusting to do, it may take a long time for this liberal Jesuit to realize what he should be obsessing about.