Posted on 10/06/2013 8:11:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
House Speaker John Boehner says he wasn't pulled into demanding concessions from Democrats to keep funding the government - he willingly joined with fellow Republicans.
"I and my members decided that the threat of Obamacare and what was happening was so important that it was time for us to take a stand. And we took a stand," the Ohio Republican said Sunday on ABC's "This Week.".......
"You've never seen a more dedicated group of people who are thoroughly concerned about the future of our country," he said of House Republicans. "It is time for us to stand and fight."
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Alien abduction?
Now??? What happened to before they put us in this situation?
Too many martinis last night for sure.
The lies start with the very first sentence.
Oh, no!!!
That means Boehner is getting ready to bend over... again.
LOL!!!
Way overdue.
But conservatives must continue to think strategically and look beyond today's news cycle at what is really at stake in the ObamaCare battle. It isn't who wins or loses in the short term according to the vote count on the next continuing resolution. It is which side comes out of the fight having educated the voters, energized and enlarged their base and branded their opponents as dangerously wrong on health care.
In that respect the lessons that conservatives should take away are not those learned in the budget battles with President Bill Clinton in the 1990s but the battle conservatives fought over the Panama Canal Treaty with President Jimmy Carterand the Republican establishmentin the 1970s....
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Sens.Ted Cruz,Mike Lee,and Paul and dozens of tea party-backed House members understand that this strategy is not for today's news cycle. The battle is focused on bringing constitutional conservatives to power by 2017.
And they also understand that the Republican establishment is as greator greateran adversary in this fight than are President Obama and the Democrats in Congress.
So expect conservatives to redouble their efforts to defeat establishment Big Government Republicans in the primaries next year,including John Cornyn,Lamar Alexander and Mitch McConnell as well as establishment House Republicans.
Sens. Lee and Cruz have, through their principled opposition to funding ObamaCare, re-energized millions of grassroots conservative voters who were turned off by the Republican establishment's content-free technocratic campaign in 2012.....
Perhaps he is privy to info. We do not know yet...like something really bad...
“Now’s the time to sit down and weep.” There, that’s better.
Either way, as critical as I've been of Boehner (I predicted he'd fold within 24 hours of the shutdown ....) it appears that now's the time to come to his side and voice our support.
Truth is, this is a battle that needs to be fought, or the United States of America as we know it may truly be lost forever. Trust me on this one, I'm having serious misgivings about whether or not to back Boehner only to have him cave later -- however it appears the House Republican's are standing firm. I think it's time to encourage him and voice our support.
Regardless, hats off to the Speaker of the House! I will give credit when credit is due.
Yes, but for how long? With your pathetic history of backing down to the ignorant limp-wristed pansy (which to date makes you the only one on earth who has), I'm not holding my breath. You're in a winning situation, but you and the rest of the gutless, ball-less, GOPe have yet to demonstrate that you have the intelligence, principles, or testicular fortitude to see it through...
Making the House irrelevant? Seizing the purse strings?
If past is any indication, that is correct. I’m thinking a complete fold by the 17th, when he’ll fold again. This country has had it.
Almost a week of trying to throw WWII vets out of their own Memorial and they still blame the Republicans.
Excellent post. We must beat the checkers playing media and establishment by playing chess.
Did anyone see Rod Serling standing around this morning?
Bingo. The enemy marched through the open and undefended gates, raped our women, looted and pillaged our wealth...and now he wakes up from his post and decides it’s time to lead a fight. What a loser. Makes me sick.
I agree his efforts in this regard should be supported.
Verify BEFORE Trust!
Dr. Ted Cruz, 800-STANDUP
Pretty fair guess. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
Hope to God he means it. Its time to shut it down whatever the cost.
LOL! I'm sure she has enough spare sets just lying around that she needs to start handing them out to the Senate republicans as well!
Much as I dislike who the Speaker is, he happens to be right. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then.
I plan to support him just as long as his spine holds out. As should the rest of us.
Better late than never John. There may yet be chance to save the union.
Yup. As long as he doesn’t waver/waiver!
He didn’t do exactly what I wanted him to do exactly when I wanted it done, so I’m going to criticize him. I do that to everyone because nobody does exactly what I want them to do exactly when I want them to do it.
I’ve been saying that from the start or nearly the start when they got summoned to the WH and came away empty handed.
1. 0bama was announcing his no negotiation stance long before Cruz was even thinking about the filibuster.
2. After the “summons” 0bama dared to talk down the markets. Who in their right mind would even do that?
3. All the pesky closures of open air memorials etc.
4. Boehner was the first to say not to worry about the debt ceiling, it will get funded.
5. 0bama countered with a threat to use the 14th Amendment and unilaterally raise the debt ceiling. (14th Amendment only matters during an insurrection or rebellion...hmmm)
I think 0bama tipped his hand to Boehner. We’ve been wondering a long time what the administration has on Boehner that makes him capitulate so much. We may never know, but this stunt by the regime may have been Boehner’s last straw.
Boehner may know there is nothing he can do to stop 0bama & his regime, because they have already scraped the Constitution. There’s been some behind the scenes stuff muddling through the internet. FEMA/DHS preparing for something big mid-month in the eastern region, Oath Keepers going “operational,” some nerve racking stuff bubbling about. I know here they’ve gone from telling us to have 72 hours of supplies on hand to having 2 weeks worth(actual radio announcements).
We’re not winning anything, this is just the opening salvo to a very long, bumpy ride.
No I think he doubled up on his Viagra and now it’s lasting more than 4 hours!!!
I couldn't agree with you more. Anyone is capable of change for the better and Boehner is no exception. I have no objection to healthy skepticism but so many posts on this thread are outright cynical. We have nothing to lose if we can pull Boehner to our side and everything to lose by pushing him away. A little Christian charity instead of snarky comments would be more persuasive.
You don’t understand....many on here would rather pull out their tired over used snarks about Boehner than admit he might finally do something right.
I’ve been as critical of him as anyone....in published articles and books....but he’s been better the past week than I would have ever guessed. Alien abduction, too many martinis’ - whatever - I’ll take it for now. Would never say I trust him or think he’s really changed based on this, but some people around here would rather bitch and complain and be negative than actually assess when something good might (I stress MIGHT) be happening.
Yeah, he is pretty bad. But you know what? You get to fight with the Army you have, not the one you wish you had.
Boehner finally learning how to play poker? Not to show your hand
True that - he changed for the worse between 1996 and 2012 - maybe - just maybe - he’s drifting back to the Boehner of pre 1996 - he was very much “tea party” back then many years before there was a tea party.
Do I trust him yet? Oh hell no. But this is welcome news.
There’s a big emotional show going on with Ted Cruz leading and Boehner following pretending to be tough.
By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes..
We are in agreement on all points. I have been preparing for the worst.
It’s not an act of self-deception to encourage Boehner to stay on this path.
Maybe Boehner’s statement that he will not be Speaker again (retire?) has led him to just say, “Oh F* it. I’m going to do what I think should be done. Finally.”
I agree and call that healthy skepticism. My prayers are with the House Speaker as well as my voice.
I agree, and you hit the nail on the head. As long as his spine holds out. The problem is, he has caved so many times, that he has to prove he won't cave this time.
Yes, he needs our prayers - since we know this rare show of courage is not intuitive for him especially. And FTR, I tire of people who relentlessy criticize a certain person for a certain behavoir, and then when they get exactly what they’ve been asking for - refuse to ackowledge it.
If we don’t admit when he stumbles into something right, then we have zero cred when we criticize him.
True that, but knee jerk negativity does not help that spine stay stiff......
Let’s just hope that he puts his backbone where his mouth is.
It’s his own fault. I am lining up behind Boehner on this one - but nervously, not confidently, and expecting the odds-on are I’ll get stabbed in the back again.
It is his fault, for obvious reasons - but that’s not the point going forward.
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