Posted on 10/15/2013 9:47:23 PM PDT by freedom462
So I am thinking of simply leaving the job I work at now and heading to a Southern state, Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Northern Florida, Tennessee, etc since I figure that, since I am one of those who does not have a reliable source of family aid of any kind, that this could be my only option.
I am considering finding a church that has a sort of communal living situation, a farm, ranch, factory or other such source that could use additional workers and join one of them. I am thinking of it in light of a situation where there is such severe disaster than there are no jobs in the schools, restaurants - presuming they'd be out of business since noone could eat out anymore, malls, universities, hospitals, not to mention no engineering jobs of any kind either, unless they required another degree (which in theory I would not get since all the schools would no longer have any money).
So I am thinking of places such as what I listed above as places to start a new life in preparation for the possibility that all other work options are simply gone because the crisis got so severe and as a way to ensure I can have a community I can survive with, since my only other option would be to try and survive as a homeless person at this point.
Does anyone on FR have a sort of church based or other type of communal living situation, a farm, ranch or non federal park that is looking for new members and/or can suggest ways I can find that type of place to work so that I have survival chance? I figure that most likely, noone would be able to help that much but knowing what I do about FR, I figured might as well ask just for the heck of it if nothing else since my options otherwise are highly limited.
Texas sucks. Its not only the place its the people and culture that are disingenuous and inauthentic masked as southern hospitality. You will not get past level 2 of deep relationships.
I have heard of indeed and it turns up a lot of jobs in the city where I live - the problem is that they are by and large jobs in schools, stores, restaurants, and engineering and management jobs. I was thinking of a scenario, which seems more likely than eve a few months ago, where the financial markets have gotten so bad that these jobs are simply gone. Hence asking about farms, ranches, private parks, church based communal living situations and so on. Where it is those types of jobs and that’s it.
try Midland Texas- where there are all kinds of jobs. I hear...
So what states are a superior alternative?
Become Amish??
I give you three prospects. Texas, Texas, Texas.
It’s growing like a weed!!
Walkingfeather must have an Ex in Texas.
If you’re a Conservative, South Carolina is a great place to live.
Sweetheart, if you have the choice to move from a blue state to a red state, find one with the climate and lifestyle you can live with if SHTF never comes.
Join a church, make friends, keep God with you. When the time comes, if ever, you will find what you need.
Do not fear.
I wouldn’t base huge personal decisions on hypothetical possibilities that have a low probability of occurrence. I did that to some extent and it was a mistake. But good luck with whatever you do.
First, what kind of work might you be seeking? And, why a communal situation with a church or similar group on a farm or ranch?
These are some rather curious items and I would like to offer some suggestions of places you might consider, but I need to better understand what you are seeking. Are you principally seeking a work environment, recreational environment or just something that isn’t in the north? Also, do you have a climate in mind that you would find more desirable than others? Depending on location and what your expectations are, southern weather extremes can be pretty harsh.
So, if you can offer a little more detail, I would be happy to offer some suggestions. Freepmail me if you want some privacy.
Did that in the 60s.....lol.....fun, but it all blew up....lol
I believe you live in one of the crummier areas of California, right?
Kind of stuck there for life?
I picked those examples because I was looking at a scenario where that would be the only type of work available since all other kinds of jobs, like those in schools, restaurants, universities, engineering firms, malls, and many, if not most, stories and factories would be simply unavailable, which would eliminate the vast majority of jobs found on a site like indeed.com.
And yes, it is also in part because I would be looking to get away from the North and find a place that is gonna have some real chance at keeping actual American liberties alive and so on. Basically, getting as far away from DC, NY, Mass, Newark, Detroit and So Cal as possible.
Does that help?
is it because of the media hype and lies about the “default”
there can't be a default . the media is lying. if they don't raise the debt ceiling the constitution demands the debt be serviced first and the gov takes in 10 x what is needed to service the debt, pay the interest on it.
Perhaps you should consider moving to the Asia-Pacific region instead of going to the South. You can start all over here, hopefully you have a college degree. Even if it’s a B.A. in Political Science like mine, you can still grab some intruiging job opportunities in my neck of the woods.
Didn’t SC vote for Graham?
I guess I have this fear that even once I end up joining a Church, that God won’t be with me and I’ll be dead in a couple weeks one way or the other anyway. I am just talking about looking for a real chance of survival here.
But maybe Obama wants to default as much as possible and deliberately crash as much as possible so that he can try and unleash the wrath of his support base, from So Cal to Newark to Detroit, upon all of America. Looks like ti is gonna happen within 2 weeks.
My friend, I really hope my speculation about the disaster following a possible default is not encouraging you to uproot your life, especially if you’re working hard on a degree.
I am basing a lot of this on unknowable variables, and the possibility that Obama is far more sinister than we ever gave him credit for. I’m just a conservative hardliner, not an economist or an insider or anything like that
Moving around, especially with nothing set in stone before you leave, is tough right now. If SHTF, you have no choice, but right now, do not take any rash measures unless it is immediately beneficial to do so.
Chances are that they kick the can down the road on this whole debt ceiling thing.
Don’t worry, it is not you. Honestly, I sort of just sense it is coming within the next month at most, one way or the other. Like a sixth sense telling me it is time to prepare for losing everything.
Texas sucks. Its not only the place its the people and culture that are disingenuous and inauthentic masked as southern hospitality. You will not get past level 2 of deep relationships.
You’re right. It takes a certain personality to live in Texas.
Those without it can leave, and we say good riddance and lose no sleep over it.
He’s working on an assumption I speculated about in which Obama refused to pay the debts and defaulted instead in preparation for some kind of Soros operation.
You’re right, it is unlikely Obama is that evil.
I have been thinking about that, the only think is, doesn’t that lead to potential for serious trouble? How does it work if you are talking an expat situation? Do expats to the Asia Pacific region secure jobs before they move or do they move first and then find jobs available after the move? And how do they tell what jobs will be available for someone with their level of education and skills?
it seems people on here actually think there is a crisis
i can guarantee you all the media does is lie and cry the sky is falling . for 2 years they cried about an Ice age. then for the next 30 years it was global warming
now it's fiscal cliff, sequester , gov shut down, and now default
all imaginary hobgoblins , i assure you
So yes, I have been sensing it before you ever posted anything that I had read n the last several days.
Man, I am sorry you are feeling so depressed about America. Totally understandable, but God is with you always.
it's all media hype and a big lie
wake up people , nothing will happen. this moron even if he tried cannot crash capitalism
Don’t worry about the future. If things get really bad, you can commit some crime and get sent to prison where you will have basic food and a roof over your head. I would check out the states that have the best prisons and move there.
Part of the problem is that when it comes to my case, I am not sure God is with me. I am one of those people who is considered disordered, so to speak, and I sometimes I am not sure if God is with those kind of people or if He is content to let them waste away and go to hell in Darwinian fashion.
It would be very hard to beat central to east Tennessee.
Do not consider anything west of the Tennessee River.
I would agree completely, but there is that nagging doubt every time I look at that debt clock, every time I see that f*cking usurping commie smile during a speech with a little twinkle in his eyes, or read those Jarrett memos with sinister overtones.
Is there a greater plan at work here? George Soros is pulling the strings whatever.
“I am just talking about looking for a real chance of survival here.”
Try not to listen to Alex Jones too much. After a while, you start imagining Obama is stalking you, UN blue helmet soldiers are preparing to raid your home and you start buying Alex Jones’ survival kits and food storage equipment. One thing I love about Free Republic is that conspiracy theories get kicked to the curb. Some people exploit paranoia to earn a buck. Learn not to be one of those victims. I have a nervous personality too, but I cured it by moving to China. In China, if you’re paranoid, you won’t last one week in this country. It’s like curing your fear of snakes by touching a snake.
Freepmail me and perhaps I can help you out.
I hear you.
But, you can’t just join a survival community. Those communities are made up of people who trust each other. I don’t belong to one, but I know people I trust who could create one.
Do you see what I mean?
Go somewhere. Make friends, and do not discount God. Why should He abandon you? Do you think, that He makes an imperfect being and expects them to be perfect? NO! He just expects them to honestly strive for it.
Okay, you need to get re-acquainted with the Bible. God’s love for the meek and suffering is boundless.
Because I live, you too shall live!”
“communal living”
Pilgrims tried it.
Our country is trying it.
It’s really not working so well.
NOOB!
“Constitution demands”
Obama never saw a constitutional demand he didn’t satisfy.
Thank you, will do.
Oh there will be a default but it's because they keep raising the debt ceiling NOT because the Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling
the media is lying
its’ because the debt is growing that there will be a default but the media says the opposite
what's needed is to not raise the debt ceiling . the markets would eventually cheer that common sense you see?
Thank you, I will make sure to do that soon.
I get that. So, if the debt ceiling is not raised, we miss the deadline, then the executive branch begins closure of other areas to pay the debts right?
Maybe they sell off Department of Education assets, or refuse to pay workmen for a bridge. But is that re-arrangement of funds not overseen by the Executive branch? I realize enough money is coming into the federal government to cover the debt, but the Executive branch has the reigns do they not?
Is it not theoretically possible that the president (and the senate if needs must), take us into a default deliberately. Not saying that is what is planned, or what is constitutional, but could Obama do it?
BTW, if you can take the culture shock, I do recommend Texas.
Do you know Texas is the only state with its own power grid? Our lights will be on when everyone else is in the dark. ( barring an EMP, of course)
But a real Texan , not your Austin liberal, can be a tough nut to crack. Texans admire strength of character.
It has been my experience, that the rich dine with the poor, because they LIKE each other, not because of their income. The Texans I know put relationships above income. They are real people.
I know this for fact. At least within the circles I travel.
Quod erat demonstratandum.
But Sarah Palin did a good job of explaining some of this in the following
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3079001/posts
I'll think about this more tomorrow. I'm really tired but i just think the media is all about lies and there is no crisis nor can there be. Obama can't crash capitalism even if it tried
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