Rove: Longer Holdout Means Weaker GOP

NewsMax ^ | 10/16/2013 | Greg Richter

[TexGrill]

Republican strategist Karl Rove says the GOP should quit while it's not as far behind as it could be.

Appearing Tuesday on Fox News Channel's "On the Record," Rove said Republicans fighting for concessions on Obamacare and entitlements are weakening their position the longer they hold out.

"At some point you have to focus on, as Ronald Reagan said, getting as much of the pie as you possibly can get," Rove said.

Republicans aren't even going to be able to get 80 percent of what they want now, he said, because they have been weakened over the last two months by fighting for something that was impossible to get: defunding Obamacare.

"And the longer this goes on, the less leverage they have," Rove said.

That's one reason Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., "threw the ball to them" and stopped Senate discussions, Rove said. Reid knew Republicans couldn't get together on a bill, he said, and wanted to weaken them further.

House Speaker John Boehner presented a bill early Tuesday that would have funded the government through mid-January and extended the debt ceiling through mid-February while talks continued, but he was unable to muster enough support to pass it.

A scheduled Tuesday night vote was called off.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: gop4obamacare; gop4romneycare; karlrove; rinoestablishment; romneyagenda; teamromney; tokyorove

[TexGrill]

Anyone care to comment about Karl Rove?

[Bullish]

Shut up Rove, you ignorant slut!

[Hostage]

> “At some point you have to focus on, as Ronald Reagan said, getting as much of the pie as you possibly can get,” Rove said.

You definitely don’t need any more pie Mr. Rove, and you surely have no consent to interpret a President whose shoes you are unfit to shine.

[Jim Noble]

At some point you have to focus on, as Ronald Reagan said, getting as much of the pie as you possibly can get," Rove said.

Well, we got the House of Representatives in 2010, which controls spending (no thanks to Karl Rove, BTW). and now they are doing what we sent them there to do.

[Gaffer]

Trying to pull that privileged GOP elite spoon out of his mouth is pointless. His view is that the GOP is weakened.

Well, HEAR! HEAR! Our young men and women we sent to Congress in 2010 are doing exactly what their constituents want, to take back this government from politicians so entrenched in their own personal power and perks that they’ve forgotten what real America is like.

I don’t care about Boehner being able to control the troops - he’s a crappy crying baby leader anyway. No balls, no backbone, no bite. Our guys up there now need to stand firm and stand tall - they’re doing a great job.

We need to keep money away from Obama as long as humanly possible. This country needs to see the extent of the lows he is willing to stoop to so that his leeches remain fed and his destructive programs remain idle.

[ez]

We don’t want any more of this Obamacare pie rove. Dump the pie in the river and let’s find something else to eat. Shut it down. Take away the credit card and stop funding the socialist police state.

[VRWC For Truth]

Tokyo Rove is the buggy whip maker. Adios, loser.

[o2bfree]

Better that Obama goes bankrupt now than three years later when Washington gives us over $20 trillion in debt.

Let’s get it over with and cut the credit cards now!

[varon]

Anyone care to comment about Karl Rove?

Ahh yes, Hannity's idol and the man whose claim to fame is George W. Bush............that says it all!!!

[GailA]

SHUT THE HECK UP TRAITOR!

[dforest]

I turned off Greta’s show last night. She has too much Rove, Linda, and Juan on there for my liking.

[WashingtonSource]

Karl Rove is an IDIOT. Total absolute honking blinking idiot.

[rrrod]

The DC cocktail party class doesnt have a clue!

[jimbo123]

[MinuteGal]

Karl Rove is the most anti-conservative, insidious commentator on TV today.

Though different in style, looks and delivery, he is every bit the Goebbels of our time.

Just watch how glib and supportive he is of GOP capitulation, "moderation" and "cooperation". Watch him closely...and listen carefully. He never speaks of liberty, freedom, the will of the people, the founding principles, taking a moral stand, fighting evil and corruption.....never.

He's only a political conniver....and one of the smoothest and best members of Obama's far-flung team of ringers.

And note how he NEVER gets interrupted or overtalked by any of the Fox hosts during his omnipresent appearances on the Fox evening lineup.

He is there to provide the propaganda for the destruction of conservatism....and he goes about his task faithfully and doggedly....with full rein from Fox.

Leni

[cva66snipe]

Karl Rove Selling Out Conservatism To Liberalism & Marxism since 2000”. Your legacy in history Karl. Now get lost.

[norwaypinesavage]

Long shutdown means weaker Rove, not weaker GOP. It also means stronger TEA party.

[MinuteGal]

I turned Greta off last night, also. Besides being a program filled with tedious Democrat and GOP-lite propaganda, it was also riddled with so many commercials that it became ridiculous. Her whole show was just a dump of garbage from beginning to end....and a waste of time for any thinking viewer.

Leni

[Dr. Sivana]

TRUTH=(KARL_ROVE_PRONUNCEMENTS)*(-1)

[Cincinatus]

Karl Rove's most ardent desire is to be the Republican Kingmaker, the Mark Hanna of the 21st Century.

Considering the job he did for the GOP in 2012, he's beginning to look more like Arianna Huffington.

And sounding a lot like her too.

[Vaquero]

Dough boy speaks...no one listens

[mosesdapoet]

In the 2012 election Rove the strategerist couldn’t even carry his own precinct never mind the country.

[Servant of the Cross]

Conservatives: The Longer You Holdout Listening to Rove Means Weaker GOP

[Thom Pain]

Rove may have been George Bush’s biggest mistake.

[USS Alaska]

No Comment Required!!!

[Venturer]

Maybe Rove likes Sh*t pie, but the rest of us have had enough pie already.

[exDemMom]

Even if they lose this battle, the house Republicans are showing that they have a backbone and are actually standing up to do the job that constituents want them to do. I do not see how that is a losing position in the long run.

[don-o]

Rove: Longer Holdout Means Weaker GOP

He says that like it's a bad thing. History is repeating itself, as in the 60's when the Rockefeller / Romney / Lodge elitist wing first had to be overcome before Goldwater could ultimately give us Ronald Reagan.

THAT, Mr, Rove, is what is happening here.

[Anton.Rutter]

If Rove were actually a man, any woman would tell him that if you hold out longer, it’s not because you’re weaker...

[SMARTY]

So he IS a registered Democrat?

[Sir Napsalot]

>>>> “And the longer this goes on, the less leverage they have,”

Let us be honest by all means. What ever leverage they have, the Vichy GOP never ever intent to use it.

All their “blustering and maneuvering” is all for maximum showbiz. More on the right side are starting to wake up to it.

AND IT IS A GOOD THING, because America as is will not last much longer.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Karl Rove talks big, but he's always wrong.

Just like Dick Morris.

[central_va]

Anyone care to comment about Karl Rove?

Fixed.

[Lee'sGhost]

No holdout means there IS no GOP, dumbass. Just dem lite.

[txrefugee]

The Karl Rove who masterminded Mitt Romney’s victory?......never mind.

[F15Eagle]

Always wrong, it’s Karl Rove.

[BoringGuy]

Rove seems to willfully choose to not understand the game here. First side to blink here loses not just the battle but the entire war. I realize the GOP leadership has been trying to blink since the beginning but have been cut off by Cruz and Lee in the Senate and the conservatives in the House.

Now is the WORST and most damaging time to give in.

[duckman]

“I turned off Greta’s show last night. She has too much Rove, Linda, and Juan on there for my liking.”

Same here. When I see Juan or Colmes on the TV, off goes Fox.

[duckman]

Mr Rove, the repubs have to take a stand some time. Why not now? Sure we may lose some elections; however the American people know what they want and will eventually prevail. IMHO

[machogirl]

Karl you are part of the problem, not the solution.
Go away.

[Doc Savage]

Has committed treason. Jail the little fat f***!

[nomobs]

Weaken the repulican party or the RINO club? Carl rove is his biggest fan and he proved in 2012 that he does not have a clue who the base is.

[johnny reb]

No holdout means there IS no GOP, dumbass. Just dem lite.

Rove and the rest of the RINOs are still trying to believe that they can control the REAL conservatives.It's over Rover you will have to take a seat in the back of the TEA PARTY bus.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

A caller this morning to the William Bennett show said she was tired of hearing establishment Republicans tell Cruz, et al. what they should have done.

"Don't should on us," she said.

Good one.

A google search found the phrase used a few times dating back to the 1990s (golly I remember when we talked about the 1890s.)

.. anyway this google search of FR
site:www.freerepublic.com "don't should on"
found just one thread that contains it.

[wastoute]

Rove! LOL. There is NO MORE PIE. Moron.

[wastoute]

The first time I heard “don’t should on us” was from the pulpit. I had to clean my ears out! He even said it as much like what you might expect on purpose. Good one.

[Diogenesis]

Rove and Romney STOLE all the money contributed to the GOP
for conservatives. They stole it moments before Romney
finally gave up (before admitting he never even tried).

[sauropod]

I remember quite clearly, what Tokyo Rove did to Christine O'Donnell while she was giving her acceptance speech after winning a Delaware primary.

[mountainfolk]

The Republican party is not as far AHEAD as it could be, Karl. Each day that the House holds off the communist democrat party is a plus for this Republic. Exactly what is the upside of continuing to facilitate the traitors now in control of our country? The tea party is gathering strength as concerned and watchful citizens of America absorb the horror of the communist exercise of power over the entire govt and population of our country. Each member of the House won their election and have the duty and obligation to exercise their judgment about how to serve their constituents and country. Karl Rove is the go between for liberal republicans and communist democrats who have designs of their own on the future of this Republic. My position regarding the future of the Republican party is to let the chips fall, the sooner the better. The Tea Party is alive and well. The Republican party is sick and needs their help. Full speed ahead for all of the opposition to Obama and the hordes of confederates and fellow travelers now entrenched in our government.

[bray]

His strategy of not fighting back worked real well for GW.

Pray AMerica is Waking Up