Posted on 10/16/2013 3:35:16 AM PDT by LD Jackson
The Democrats government shutdown is in its third week and it is beginning to look like it will continue, at least past the debt ceiling. Negotiations continue over how to reopen the government, but there is a certain amount of exasperation starting to show. The Republicans in the House of Representatives have offered plan after plan to end the government shutdown, but they have all been rejected by the Democrats. Their latest plan was threatened with a veto from President Obama, before it could even make it to the floor of the House. I can't help but wonder if Rush Limbaugh is correct in his assessment that President Obama really does not want to make a deal.
There is a side story in all of this that I want to highlight. Much ado has been made about the right-wing of the Republican Party. I have lost count of the times I have heard President Obama accuse conservatives in the GOP of holding the rest of the party hostage. That same line of attack continued yesterday, after the latest proposal in the House was dropped, ostensibly because Speaker John Boehner realized he didn't have the votes to pass the bill. I want you to pay attention to what Obama said.
CNN - President Barack Obama -- who will meet Wednesday with Treasury Secretary Jack Lew -- called for House Republicans to "do what's right" by reopening government and ensuring the United States can pay its bills, telling CNN affiliate WABC that "we don't have a lot of time."Yet even he acknowledged Boehner's difficulty in getting his fellow House Republicans on the same page.
"(Boehner) negotiating with me isn't necessarily good for the extreme faction in his caucus," Obama told WABC. "It weakens him, so there have been repeated situations where we have agreements. Then he goes back, and it turns out that he can't control his caucus."
Maybe this is just me grasping at straws, as I am sure some liberals would think, but I take an exception to President Obama and his assessment that John Boehner can not control his caucus. His statement is technically true, but is this not about more than how the leaders in the political parties can control their caucuses? Did it ever occur to Obama that the reason Boehner is having control issues is because the people who sent those rank and file representatives to Washington are making their voices heard? Sorry, Mr. President, but there is much more at stake than controlling a caucus, and the idea that you think the caucus needs to be control offends me, in the worst possible way. I believe this highlights the problematic attitude so many of our political leaders display. They want their caucus to fall into line with the leadership, irregardless of how their constituents want them to vote. Not only do they want this to happen, but they expect it. That's another part of the problem. They have been successful at this for so many years, they see no reason not to expect it to continue. When the members of this caucus raise their heads in defiance and refuse to follow blindly behind people like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell, the power structure that has been in place for far too long is threatened.
For once, we are seeing the Republicans hold their ground. I'm not sure how much longer that will continue, as the GOP leadership seems determined to give away the house to the Democrats, but for now, they are standing firm. I have no doubt the main reason this is happening is because the caucus Obama wants Boehner to control is not cooperating with their leadership. I hope they continue to serve notice, both to President Obama and John Boehner. This is not about controlling the caucus, but rather about the will of the people being done. If our political leaders could have learned that years ago, then maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.
I see, bonehead cannot control his caucus, perhaps what he forgot to add, as well as I can through my shill in the Senate.
Obama is not a serious President. Cheap shots directed at your opponents don’t bring compromise.
So THAT’S what Valerie Jarrett told her Sock-puppet to say?
Here’s a guy (Obama) who’s complaining about managing events who isn’t responsible for anything that goes on during his administration and can’t even control his “sons”.
Yes. For the first time in his privileged, protected and promoted political life, Obama is facing real and determined opposition. He has no experience or frame of reference to deal with it.
So, he lashes out and flails away.
Like a child.
Isn't that the goal of Obamacare and, later on, single-payer?
The Democrats (and too many Republicans) for too long have been allowed to think that we are their possessions and they can do what they want with us. They seem unaware that they are supposed to represent us, not control us.
Is irregardless even a real word?
It seems to indicate the exact opposite of regardless.
That idea will be changing soon - and it won't be pretty.
POTGO thinks he’s shopping Walmart with EBT When he is in fact spending tax dollars that don’t exist. The govt credit card is maxed out stoopid.
Pass a balanced budget.t
That’s all that’s needed.
Is Obama controlling Reid or is Reid controlling Obama?
Irregardless—popularized by President Eisenhower. Apparently he used it quite a lot.
But unfortunately none of that determined opposition is in GOP leadership. Cruz and Lee are the determined opposition and the Boehners and McConnells and Cantors are impediments to them and not their allies.
We live in a world where disrespect is now a verb. Nothing surprises me anymore.
I don't understand Obama bullying Boehner. Before that happened, our biggest fear was Boehner would cave for a golf game or whatever. Maybe it's that Obama's only defense is being a bully when he doesn't get his way.
We are just a few hours and 18 RINO votes away from surrendering the House majority and the power of the legislature to control spending. By acquiescing to Obama’s demands, the Republican majority in the House is fundamentally changing how finances are managed in the country.
History is hard to recognize when it is happening, but I believe we are witnessing history here. This will tip the scale clearly in the favor of the takers. Welcome to the third world.
Perch and Pivot, JugEars, and take your Pet RATS with you!
With Obama it is all about Control.
Obama is not a serious President. Cheap shots directed at your opponents dont bring compromise.
And statements regarding agreements without any proof of what they were are just more hot air.
He loves to make these unprovable comments, and the press never does their job to ask for some factual examples
We live in a world where disrespect is now a verb. Nothing surprises me anymore.
So true. And one where that airhead Kirsten Powers believes that the dictionary represents “ the truth” about everything.
In other words, if its written in there, then we should accept it as the absolute.
She fails to realize that like our education systems words have been shaped to fit a desired meaning over time.
We live in a world where disrespect is now a verb
Couldn’t resist.
Had the disrespect line used on me the other day when pointing out that the US cannot default as revenues exceed at least the interest on the debt.
My response was to the person was “ how can I disrespect you , as I never respected you in the first place”
One trillion dollar annual deficits!!! The folks who want to stop this aren’t anarchists. They are people who can operate a calculator. Yes, it looks like we lose again.
I maintain the math will eventually force most of the country onto our side....or we simply fall apart financially. Democrats are not playing a winning fiscal hand. They are playing a winning political hand. This will not last because its impossible that it does.
The Main Stream Media remind me of that pretty girl in High School who dates the arrogant HS QB. Everyone knows he’s a jerk, including her, but the status is just too much of a drug for her to resist. Eventually that HS relationship falls apart and someday the love affair with the financially unworkable government and the MSM will fall apart, too. In both cases, the relationships are built on lies.
Just another tell from the warped psyche of the ‘Victim and Chief’.
Leadership is not about control unless you are or view yourself as a Dictator.
It's believed to be a contemporary portmanteau of 'irrespective' and 'regardless,' but it's still a double-negative and boils down to 'regarding.'
ObaMao can’t control his ego, so we’re even.
This, from the guy who rolled out Obamacare websites.
Alternatively a fractured army is a losing army and in this case sensing the advantage Dems stuck together to fight.
Obama had a real plan.
Dems saw that and they stuck together from beginning to end.
They all repeated a common simple set of messages over and over not changing much.
They had Reid as attack dog, and Obama above it all lecturing to us ill behaving children. Pelosi pretty much stayed out of it except to repeat over and over we are ready to open government was soon as Bohner lets us
They saw Obama hold that he would give GOP NOTHING.
Now he is more popular with Dems than ever.
Too bad Dems dont have organized opposition
It’s a done deal.
Boner’s inability to “control his caucus,” is Obama’s justification for the executive fiat he’s planned all along.
As for the Obamacare fiasco— that was planned all along too. It was a bait-and-switch ruse to impose single-payer medical care. Expect another executive decision soon.
Take it to court? Sure, see where that gets you.
I know. I saw that too and one or two others. But that one can’t be a typo or one that was not picked up by a spellchecker.
“Cringe” indeed.
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