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Obamacare Needs 7 Million People Sign Up Or It Goes Under
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Posted on 10/21/2013 6:16:30 AM PDT by alexmark

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To: 1raider1

Exactly!


41 posted on 10/21/2013 7:20:45 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Gen.Blather

What if you have to have major hospital & meds? Cancer or by-pass?


42 posted on 10/21/2013 7:23:18 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: NYer

” ...the administration needs at least 7 million people to join the exchanges for Obamacare to be financially viable. “

When has this administration ever given the slightest thought to what is “financially viable”?

This is why we can’t wait for Obama care to collapse, the Dear Leader will keep it running no matter how much of a financial black hole it becomes. Dollars? Crunch all you want, we’ll make more!


43 posted on 10/21/2013 7:24:24 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: alexmark

did anyone enroll obamacare successfully here?


44 posted on 10/21/2013 7:24:24 AM PDT by alexmark
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To: mountainlion
Did 0 plan for it to fail so he could step in and really make things bad. - - - - - I fully agree. 0's campaign advisers could have launched a better system to a vast audience without glitches. Where are the mobile apps and social media to get the attention of at least the 26-36 age group? The website seems like a fake store front; when you walk inside it's just squalor.
45 posted on 10/21/2013 7:24:24 AM PDT by TopDeadCenter
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To: plain talk

“. Not to get off topic but why the hell would they outlaw such plans? I am a bit dense I guess and I just don’t get it.”

Catastrophic care policies were what most young people get. It covers you only if you actually go into the hospital for something major. They did away with them because they need the young, healthy people to finance the people who are already sick. One thousand a year simply won’t do that. They need everybody spending 10 to 20 times that.


46 posted on 10/21/2013 7:26:49 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“What if you have to have major hospital & meds? Cancer or by-pass?”

Then, I’ll get Obamacare. They can’t refuse you for a pre-existing condition. This was part of the Death Spiral concern insurance companies had that people would get sick, buy insurance, get well and drop it. I’ll contribute to the Death Spiral.


47 posted on 10/21/2013 7:28:54 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: plain talk
Not to get off topic but why the hell would they outlaw such plans? I am a bit dense I guess and I just don’t get it.

Because if they don't gouge the young and healthy, the numbers don't work out. Actually the young (under 30) can still get catastrophic coverage, but it isn't subsidized.

48 posted on 10/21/2013 7:32:15 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: alexmark
"Obamacare Needs 7 Million People Sign Up Or It Goes Under"

The salient part of the article that explains the title seems to be missing from the posted excerpt.

49 posted on 10/21/2013 7:54:27 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: alexmark

Make that 7 million HEALTHY people.


50 posted on 10/21/2013 7:58:46 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: fatima

I enrolled in my state plan using paper form. Already approved and we received new insurance cards last week (effective 1/1/2014).


51 posted on 10/21/2013 7:59:07 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: alexmark
Local news reported a total of 24 had signed up in South Dakota.
52 posted on 10/21/2013 8:04:29 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Gen.Blather

“Then, I’ll get Obamacare. They can’t refuse you for a pre-existing condition. This was part of the Death Spiral concern insurance companies had that people would get sick, buy insurance, get well and drop it. I’ll contribute to the Death Spiral.”

The problem with that thinking is that there is a window of time for enrollment and if your need for medical care is not within that window, you are SOL.


53 posted on 10/21/2013 8:10:28 AM PDT by battletank
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To: varon

Nice try.

This is 100% democrat created.

Don’t even think about trying to blame this on the TEA Party, republicans, or anyone on the right.


54 posted on 10/21/2013 8:10:44 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: battletank

“The problem with that thinking is that there is a window of time for enrollment and if your need for medical care is not within that window, you are SOL.”

I suspect you’re going to see a lot of medical touristing. Also, I expect that many doctors will fire their insurance staff and go cash-only. I’ve read that’s happening in Massachusetts. (I’ve also read that Mass. is considering pulling the license of any doctor who won’t take Romneycare.) But I intend to do my part to make Obamacare fail.


55 posted on 10/21/2013 8:19:09 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: alexmark

Isnt there some way to really force people who really dont need Obamacare to sign up for it anyway, to make the system work, to fund it?

That’s how social security and medicare work so great now.


56 posted on 10/21/2013 8:20:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: steve86

OK,So my guess is they will fall back on paper.Bet they do a giant mail out.Just a guess.


57 posted on 10/21/2013 8:33:57 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: alexmark
Below see the penalty for not enrolling in Obamacare.

The penalty is phased-in over a three year period.
In 2014, the penalty will be the greater of 1.0% of taxable income or $95 per adult and $47.50 per child (up to $285 per family).

In 2015, the penalty will be the greater of 2.0% of taxable income or $325 per adult and $162.50 per child (up to $975 per family).

In 2016, the penalty will be at the greater of 2.5% of taxable income or $695 per adult and $347.50 per child (up to $$2,085 per family).

For Obamacare to work it must have the young and healthy sign up. The young and healthy will be fools to sign up. The penalty for not having insurance is very small compared to the cost of the policies and in particular if you are well paid as you will not get a subsidy.

Since there is a no preexisting exclusion in the Obamacare law, if you have a catastrophic illness all you need to do is sign up for Obamacare and you are home free.

The no preexisting exception is what will doom Obamacare.
Young people have a “bullet proof” philosophy about health. About the only reason they get health insurance is because it is free or they are afraid of great injury in an auto accident. Their premiums a low because of their good health.

The real way to look at it is, “Do you want to pay a small fine or have 5000 dollars to spend on whatever you want to spend it on.

OBAMA CARE WILL FAIL!

58 posted on 10/21/2013 9:47:50 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: varon

Naw. Just incompetence and bad planning. My guess is that the decisions were made by government employees for political reasons and suggestions and warnings from the technical people were ignored. By the time this got down the road a bit, the management of the contracting companies were just saying “no problem”, we’ll do it just EXACTLY the way you’ve asked. Just sign this cute little waiver.


59 posted on 10/21/2013 10:03:31 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: battletank

I’m not certain they can deny you enrollment. The code provides for the fine (excuse me, tax) if you are uninsured for so many months of the year. So obviously, it assumes that you can remedy that at any time by getting insurance.


60 posted on 10/21/2013 10:10:43 AM PDT by Roses0508
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