Posted on 10/24/2013 5:30:04 PM PDT by Kaslin
“Best thing to do now is just let it implode... the faster the better.”
I have to respectfully disagree. I firmly believe that there is no level of implosion, no depth of financial disaster that will compel Obama and his minions to admit that this crowning achievement of theirs is a failure. No matter what they will double down, continue to print money and throw money at the ACA all the while blaming everyone else for this disaster.
Has the stunning increase in the National Debt in recent years compelled any Democrat to reduce entitlement spending?
We have to fight Socialism in America now, there is no later. The 2014 election offers some hope if the Democrats can be divided and defeated.
It really will all come down to the Producers versus the Takers at the ballot box. If we don’t stop this in 2014 there may be no winnable national elections moving forward.
I call BS. The GOP-e want obamacare as much as the dems. There’s no better way for businesses to shed healthcare costs, and force people to go to a single payer system. The insurance companies make out because they can dump high risk people onto government, and the government makes out becuase if you don’t pay, they can sic the IRS on you, because the SCOTUS declared that any penalties are a TAX, not a fine. Any way you slice it, the feds and corpzilla win, the people lose, and we move further down the road to serfdom.
I firmly believe that there is no level of implosion, no depth of financial disaster that will compel Obama and his minions to admit that this crowning achievement of theirs is a failure.
I am popping my popcorn because this is going to be fun to watch —
* If Obama does delay the mandate, the young won’t sign up.
* If the website doesn’t work, the young won’t be able to sign up;
* If the website finally does work, and the young take a look at the prices and the deductables, the young won’t sign up. [A policy with a $10,000 deductable is worth less than no policy].
* 1.7 million of the young who would sign up are currently unemployed, and can’t sign up.
* When the young do not sign up in the needed numbers by March 2014, the insurance companies will begin to experience real losses from the sick, and their actuaries will project further losses, which will be published in their 2nd quarterly reports. Will these insurance companies remain “willing participants”?
* Obama will have to order Treasury to provide funds to make up these losses, as much as $50 Billion. These will of course be made public, just in time for the November election. This will be hung around the necks of Democrat Senators.
* The sad thing is ... people who are currently paying $400 per month with a $3000 deductable will have their policies cancelled and have to replace them with policies costing $1200 per month with a $12,000 deductable.
The RATs are nibbling on the “Delay Individual Mandate” Cheese.
Well said!
...*Will these insurance companies remain “willing participants”?
Of course the insurance companies aren’t going to remain willing participants. Sooner or later this nonsense will run these businesses into the ground. This really gets to the heart of why we absolutely can’t let our useless leadership just twiddle their thumbs waiting for Obamacare to “implode”. When the insurance companies begin to protest and refuse to participate they will be accused of “Corporate Greed”. Once these companies start to fail we’ll be told that there is no option but Single-Payer. It will be a “crisis”, which is the only environment this president is comfortable with.
“My fellow Americans, we will not be deterred in our battle to provide quality affordable health-care to all Americans, not just the one percent. The greedy, profit-obsessed insurance companies, along with their allies the heartless Republicans will never stop trying to sabotage our efforts, which is why I am issuing an executive order requiring all doctors and hospitals to temporarily accept the Emergency National Health-Plan cards the IRS has just issued to all citizens. This is of course a temporary, emergency measure. I look forward to bipartisan negotiations to achieve a long-term solution...”
Ryan said during an appearance at the recent Values Voters Summit in Washington DC, “We need to completely rethink government’s role in healthcare.”
Government’s role should be STAY OUT OF IT!
>>> I’ve never used a HSA before. Any tips/advice?
yeah... drop your insurance all together, and put all the money that would go towards premiums into it.
You will have FAR more money at the end of the year to cover medical expenses than you will need... and at the very least this will represent far more money than what your insurance will end up providing for you anyway.
>>> It really will all come down to the Producers versus the Takers at the ballot box. If we don’t stop this in 2014 there may be no winnable national elections moving forward.
This is really what I meant by letting it implode.
Up until now, enough producers have not been fighting the fight because they havn’t felt the pain.
Thats why I say let Obamacare implode (majority of repubs and dems will feel the pain and refuse to comply... and show up to vote against DC as a result)
“Thats why I say let Obamacare implode (majority of repubs and dems will feel the pain and refuse to comply... and show up to vote against DC as a result)”
Of course it’s not a matter of letting it implode, there really isn’t much we can do to stop that. This where I think Ted Cruz is brilliant and the recent shutdown was a great triumph for our side. We have to be seen as fighting this every step of the way. No matter how big of a financial mess Obamacare becomes, once the majority of voters on some form of the Government Dole is too large to overcome there will be no stopping this “Fundamental Transformation”.
The one ray of hope I see is that the Left’s standard strategy of lying and pointing fingers doesn’t work when millions of citizens suddenly discover that their insurance policies have been cancelled and their premiums have sky-rocketed. For years the Democrats have just used the big-lie strategy - the debt isn’t a problem, Egypt isn’t a problem, the economy is doing fine etc etc. Having a compliant media repeating and reinforcing the deception has helped, and most voters can’t tell the difference, as long as the grocery store has plenty of frozen pizza and their smartphone is working. For once the truth of the situation is undeniable.
I’m terrified that the corrupt and incompetent Republican leadership is going to squander this opportunity.
>>> The one ray of hope I see is that the Left’s standard strategy of lying and pointing fingers doesn’t work when millions of citizens suddenly discover that their insurance policies have been cancelled and their premiums have sky-rocketed.
The one ray of hope I see is that Obamacare will completely and utterly destroy the health “insurance” industry.
This will cause a cascade effect on the health CARE industry, re-introducing market forces where they have not been present for 20-30 years.
In the wake of this cascade will be the downfall of the democrat party, and a major scale-down of big-brother government.
That is my one ray of hope... that what the enemy intended for Evil God will use for good.
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