Skip to comments.Combating the "No one Wants to Ban Guns Lie"
Posted on 11/29/2013 7:15:55 AM PST by marktwain
Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option keep your gun but permit it.From Illinois Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky:
Schakowsky: Were on a roll now, and I think weve got to take the--you know, were gonna push as hard as we can and as far as we can.
Mattera: So the assault weapons ban is just the beginning?
Schakowsky: Oh absolutely. I mean, Im against handguns. We have, in Illinois, the Council Against Handgun... something [Violence]. Yeah, Im a member of that. So, absolutely.
In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea . . . . Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.
Charles Krauthammer (columnist), Disarm the Citizenry. But Not Yet, Washington Post, Apr. 5, 1996 (boldface added).
Sophisticated anti-freedom people will simply lie or refuse to answer.
never hand a gun to a libtard especialy an automatic
The first thing they do is put their finger on the trigger (because that’s where your finger goes) and only true shooters with knowlege usually spot this.
The Second Amendment was created for a purpose...as a last defense against a tyrannical government. The Founding Fathers knew that if the citizens were disarmed they would be powerless against an armed government.
The state legislature in California recently passed a bill to ban all semisutos, period. Fortunately Jerry Brown vetoed it, but they can’t really make the claim nobody wants to do so.
When a liberal like Jerry Brown is the only thing stopping drastic gun control laws, that should tell you something.
“No one wants to ban guns.”
Yeah. And “No one is pro-abortion.”
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
It’s a simple fact that a nations people can not rise up against a tyrannical government if they are unarmed. Our founders knew this hence the 2nd amendment’s “Shall not be infringed” clause.
Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.
“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily given the political realities going to be very modest.
Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.
So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal total control of handguns in the United States is going to take time.
My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors totally illegal.”
-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58
“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”
-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview
HCI, around 1984, came out in favor of a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns.
And to think, in 1962 Thomas J Dodd and Emauell Cellar proposed the first federal law on common firearms.
1962; We dont want to take away your guns, we ONLY want to register handguns! Rifles and shotguns will not be affected.
1964: We only want to register all your guns, not ban them! Only Army surplus guns will be banned.
1968: We only want to register your guns, and ban Saturday Night Specials and small foreign handguns along with army surplus rifles! (They got the ban on 5 shot army surplus rifles and handguns and small foreign pistols)
1970: We only want to ban Saturday night specials! Large handguns and rifles will not be affected!
1976: We only want to ban all handguns! Long guns will not be affected!
1981: The NRA is a rifle organization! They should give up their handguns, and they can keep their rifles!- Lee Grant on GMA
1984: We must ban assault Rifles, unsuitable or hunting!
1989: George Bush bans import of some foreign made assault rifles”.
1992: Assault rifle ban passed by Clinton.
2000: first calls to ban single shot .50 cal rifles...
2012 calls for MORE bans on semi auto rifles and handguns. If you can’t ban them then go after ammo limits, the magazines and styles of the stocks.
And so it continues.
They lied to us in 1962.
They lied to us in 1964.
They lied to us in 1968.
They lied to us in 1970.
They lied to us in 1976.
They lied to us in 1981.
They lied to us in 2013,
AND THEY ARE LYING TO US NOW!
Great post. Mind if I use it?
So every step along the way to total gun confiscation is productive of more gun violence or at least more predation with guns. The only logical endgame for the left is total confiscation of guns but each step proves counterproductive. Worse for the left, each step increasing restriction quite understandably incites opposition to further gun restriction as it leaves in its wake innocent victims.
It also alerts Second Amendment supporters of the direction in which the gun grabbers are moving. So opposition to further restriction mounts. The only way the left can counter all of this is by professing more and more denial of their endgame, the only approach from their point of view that makes sense. It is this anomaly which makes the case against guns in America essentially an oxymoron.
1946 US govt banned war souvenirs and began mandatory surrender but nobody up here in the mountains complied.\
We got thousand`s BAR`s all kinds of Korean and WW 2 and Vietnam era auto`s and mg here plus what else....just waitin` for `em-
They`ll never know til they start a war here coz they are communist NAZI war mongers.= warmonger= one who stirs up war.
The Cumonista never will set foot up here again coiz he is scared shirtless
LEGION GETS MACHINE GUN AND RIFLE
The Lake George Post of the American Legion has-received from the government a German machine gun and a German Mauser rifle.
Ticonderoga Sentinel , Apr-June 1926
Congressman Francis D. Calkin of Oswego, N. Y., state-,
world war trophies, such as machine gun- of the 1908 model, rifles, empty German shells, bayonets,buckles. belts, canteens, cartridge cases, lanterns, and other small German ornaments are available for distribution to Legion posts. Application for any of these articles should be made direct to the War dept in Wash DC.
Ticonderoga Sentinel Thurs Dec 26, 1929 page 5
Plattsburgh-Press Republican “Is Liberty Passing?
Probably much of our modern increase in crime can be laid to the fact that in the past quarter-century a vast number of acts, once innocent and legal, have been turned into offenses by legislation. Instead of a liberal, well-ordered legal code that permits every citizen to lead his own life so long as he does not tread on his fellows, we are burdened with a multitude of petty laws, many of them conflicting, and practically all of them bound by red tape. In a recent article, H. L. MENCKEN, editor of the American Mercury, said that “the bill of rights is on its last legs. . .
Step by step, at first cautiously but of late boldly, the learned justices have found reasons to sustain the wholesale destruction, first of individual rights, and then of state rights. Today the once free “American citizen is a mere subject. . .”
Plattsburgh-Press Republican “Is Liberty Passing? 1929
“Thompson ..shot two japanese manning the weapon. One dead Japanese was a marine officer, pausing only long enoughto take the officer`s saber and pistol as souvenirs.
Incidentally these New York boys on Makin are champion souvenir collectors.
They do not search back over a battlefield when the fighting is over to pick up treasures.
They get them the first time through - under fire.”
NY Times Nov 28 1943
“Louis Maloney rec`d letter from Walter Bishop somewhere in South Pacific, WW2:... ‘I picked up a few souvenirs while I was over here. I have a Jap rifle and a bayonet...” Essex County Republican. 1944
“Crown Point Soldier Sends Souvenirs Home-
Pfc. Roy S. Marsha , son of Mr. & Mrs. George Marsh, Crown Point, has sent a German pack, Italian bayonet, two Italian knives, with fascist insignia on the case, an Italian pistol, ...” Essex County Republican. 1945
lest we ever forget the real America
Frank A. Stevens has received numerous souvenirs from his son, Durand, who is a Sergeant attached to the Signal Corps in the South-west Pacific. They consist of shell and woods and money; a flame thrower; a flag; a telephone, and many other items of interest.”
‘Essex County Republican’ Mar 3, 1944, p1
Give Me Liberty!
Go for it. Credit me in case I have made an error or two. All of this came from my memory as I go way back.
I have an uncle who had a nazi flag, some uniform pieces, and a bayonet. He was a tank mechanic.
My uncle brought home a german lugar, a BAR, a MI carbine [everyone here has M1 carbines from Korea], Thompson SMG`s -still got `em
Everyone is armed with military souvenirs here from Vietnam too, and we welcome the Cuomunists to try to start a war ...
They use small steps and get people in the middle ground to do their dirty work.
Their methods work as far as pushing their agenda. Throughout recent history there are few examples of them losing without a violent revolution. They are using our govt against us and using our tax dollars to pay for pushing their agenda.
Add in the weak minded who want a free ride and its a difficult task to turn back the tide.
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In other words - that even their self-label is a LIE as “liberals”.
They will also refuse to answer questions about how they differ with Commies on policy and why Commie regimes oppress their people.
Ask your favorite Leftist-Commie about how the DNC parts company with the CPUSA and they will either dodge the question or refuse to answer.
Then ask them why Commie paradises need to walls to keep people in or secret police keep people down and you'll have the same result.
And don't even bother with questions about the millions who have died under Commie tender mercies - they almost get offended by that line of questioning.
(it's fun but frustrating at the same time)
There is no talking to them, their brain is tapioca.
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