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Disabled Military Retirees Betrayed by Gutless Republicans
Coach is Right ^ | December 21st, 2013 | Jim Emerson, staff writer

Posted on 12/21/2013 8:17:19 AM PST by darkwing104

This week the Senate voted across party lines to pass a bill that would reduce the cost of living adjustment (COLA) for military retirees including disabled retirees and survivors. The Washington Free Beacon reported that a provision in the Ryan-Murray budget agreement no longer exempts disabled retirees. The original agreement stated that “This would not affect service members who retired because of disability or injury.” After the bill passed the House, the new summary removed the exemption granted to disabled retirees and survivors. It would be too easy to accuse just one party of this chicanery for remember, this was a bipartisan effort endorsed by Mr. Obama.

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala has been desperately trying to prevent the cut in COLA for military retirees by advocating the halting of entitlements and tax refunds for illegal immigrants. Sen. Sessions pointed out to his colleagues that “It’s not correct, and it should not happen.” For the Democrats, vets and spouses are easy targets, like stealing candy from a baby on Christmas morning. Instead of cutting welfare benefits and tax emptions to illegal immigrants and other entitlement abusers the GOP establishment and Democrats will gladly take the money from the vets and families. They need the money to pay for the new budget while leaving civilian employees’ and other (intentional) deadbeats’ COLAs intact.

Technical Error?

Sen Murray “I want to make absolutely sure today that they know that a provision included in this deal that mistakenly included disabled retirees and survivors for changes in the pension growth will be addressed in short order following passage of this bill.” Her only mistake was that the bill wasn’t written in cursive, so the low information voter wouldn’t be able to read it. The omission had to be deliberate.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: budget; cinos; finos; linos; murray; ryan; tpinos
FYI I am only limited to 300 words

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Lawmakers renew push to prevent military pension cuts
Vets paying the price for new budget deal?
Veterans feeling 'betrayed' by gov't after budget deal blow


1 posted on 12/21/2013 8:17:20 AM PST by darkwing104
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To: darkwing104

>>Disabled Military Retirees Betrayed by Gutless Republicans

Disabled Military Retirees Betrayed by PROGRESSIVE Republicans

There. Fixed it.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 8:23:44 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: darkwing104

I am one. I am simply sick and tired of these stinking RINOs. That is why I left the party. That is why I don’t give them money any more. That is why I ONLY vote in those races that I actually agree with a candidate and vote for him/her and move on. I skip the RINOs and the punks and only vote those races. I did not vote for the puke in the RINOs for president in the last race. I saw no difference in either one of the One World Government pukes so I voted for neither. If they do not fall in with what I believe or close to it, no vote. Simple as that. Dudden take me long to cast my ballot now.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 8:26:54 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: darkwing104
GOP Establishment & Dems..cowardly £€¥¢©©®™~¿

4 posted on 12/21/2013 8:30:26 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: darkwing104

From older stuff I read McCain is behind this push to gut Military healthcare, active duty will see a big jump in premiums, TRI Prime will see rates go up and higher co-pays, Tricare Life for those over 65, will see a third co-pay increase in 2014, with a big push to force Express Scripts for your meds. Trouble with that is it is ALL GENERIC, and from the cheapest manufacture or country they can get it from. Many drugs are flagged, even generics. UPS throws them on your porch for any one to steal.

What if you have to go to the ER in the middle of the night and they give your a RX, well ES is is not a store you can just go to and get it filled. And that is the direction we are being pushed. And woe be to drug sensitive patients, who have to have their RX from the exact same manufacturer. Or the name brand.

Eventually they will force us onto 0’care. Because neither TFL or Medicare truly meet 0’care regs.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 8:33:30 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: darkwing104

Every Romney/Ryan supporter in the primaries owes me an apology. Nothing short of this will do.


6 posted on 12/21/2013 8:34:19 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: darkwing104

Those RINO’s were caught out. They hoped nobody would notice.


7 posted on 12/21/2013 8:35:17 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: GailA

Yup. It goes up every year. Doubling now every year. They know there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. We are old. We are used up and broken down. I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN MY HEART OF HEARTS THAT EVERY STINKING ONE OF THOSE PUKES IN CONGRESS want us to die. We die and they save their few bucks. If they simply CUT all that wasted money they ship around the world to puke nations and give to illegals and Obama’s muzzie buddies, we could balance the budget quickly. But, know. It is easier to cut a few dollars from old, dying people. And the nation is getting further and further from caring. I bump into more people now who say “well it was your choice to go into the military. You took the chance and got hurt. So sorry.” Did not use to hear that, even here in the south, but I do now. These pukes just want their free check. Too hell with those who got broken to pieces giving it to them.


8 posted on 12/21/2013 8:37:39 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: darkwing104

Gutless Republicans — So true!

I’d like to see Paul Ryan lose his seat.


9 posted on 12/21/2013 8:38:40 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: darkwing104

Here we have a Senate that wants to reward illegals by giving them citizenship and SS, and Food Stamps, they want to raise the minimum wage for fast food workers, and they want to F**k disabled veterans.

THIS is the real America. The America these Vets fought for?

NOT.

The America we need to fight for is an America with patriots in the Congress and free from liberalism, Democrats, and RINO’s


10 posted on 12/21/2013 8:39:37 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: GailA
From the last paragraph

I tend to think the later, to quote Sen John McCain “We cannot have continued increases in costs and benefits forever because of our inability to fund our national security,” This will be the man who will write the bill eliminating medical benefits for retirees, spouses and VA patients.


11 posted on 12/21/2013 8:43:38 AM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: darkwing104

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3102773/posts

Wrong, it was the dems!!!


12 posted on 12/21/2013 8:45:58 AM PST by coop223
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To: RetiredArmy

‘...who say “well it was your choice to go into the military. You took the chance and got hurt. So sorry.”’

This is the same attitude as spitting on a Vietnam Vet soldier, just more subtle. I couldn’t believe the Republicans actually went along with this. They could have refused to sign on to this deal until it was fixed. There’s no way this money actually makes a difference in our debt. It was done with a wink and a nod by Republicans. They hate the Tea Party and conservatives. It could have been a route next election, but the Republicans are making it hard to vote for Republicans.


13 posted on 12/21/2013 8:47:08 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: coop223
That is one of the links used to write the article. The Dems needed republican help to pass this bill. My Rep voted for it. Needless to say he will not be getting my vote

Kudos for the Conservatives that fought the good fight


14 posted on 12/21/2013 8:50:06 AM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: FR_addict
I wish we had more primary challenges in the Republican party. If Romney had won, we would have had RomneyCare. It may have been a smoother transition, but America would be at the same place, only the Republicans would have been blamed.
15 posted on 12/21/2013 8:52:28 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Bryanw92
And these are the same guys that won't repeal Obamacare! I hope that we can replace them, the next time they come up for reelection.
16 posted on 12/21/2013 8:52:59 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 2001convSVT

>>And these are the same guys that won’t repeal Obamacare! I hope that we can replace them, the next time they come up for reelection.

The dilemma is this: do we allow the Dems to win control of the House by only electing non-Progressives? Or do we vote for the (slightly) lesser of two evil and elect the Progressive Corporatists over the Progressive Communists?

But we can’t even start asking the question until everyone on the Right realizes that the Republican Party is Progressive at its core. Calling GOP politicians “gutless” is an indicator that people just don’t understand the depth of the problem. They aren’t gutless. They are finally free to vote for what they REALLY believe.

Obamacare is good for the Corporations because it allows them to stop adding health care to compensation packages for workers.

Offshoring job is good for the Corporations.

Amnesty is good for the Corporations.

Bailouts and fiat currency are good for the Corporations.

Progressive Republicans will not stop any of these nation-killing things.


17 posted on 12/21/2013 9:00:08 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: darkwing104

Paul Ryan and Patty Murray are going to a VA hospital today. Ryan is going to string fishing line at ankle height in front of the entrance doors to trip the ailing Veterans. Patty Murray is there to take photos of the ailing Veterans hitting the ground. The photos will be put on a Democrat fundraising letter.
“See these Veterans hitting the cement! This one’s artificial leg fell off! Isn’t it fun! Send $10 to the Democrat Party so we can continue to try and humiliate those who volunteered their all for us!”


18 posted on 12/21/2013 9:12:10 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
Send $10 to the Democrat Party so we can continue to try and humiliate those who volunteered their all for us!”

Good sarcasm, I've been told my family members that my 22 years was a waste of time and that I didn't deserve benefits for my service, it was a waste of money. This is now personal, I am a disabled vet.


19 posted on 12/21/2013 9:18:12 AM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: darkwing104

The decision to take money from retired Veterans (you have to call it that or the Democrats will quibble about what a “cut” is) was not made on the basis of any reason to help our nation. This money was to be taken from retired Veterans and given to supporters of the Democrat party. The ONLY purpose for taking this money from retired Veterans was to buy votes for the Democrat party. Anybody who says different, including Republican politicians, is a goddamn liar.


20 posted on 12/21/2013 9:21:59 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: darkwing104
This week the Senate voted across party lines to pass a bill that would reduce the cost of living adjustment (COLA) for military retirees including disabled retirees and survivors.

Due to its incompleteness, the above line is not true. The GOP voted against ALL military retirees. While I certainly understand how unfathomable to attack disabled retirees, it is important to be clear.

Every single one of those retirees, whether currently disabled or not, could well have been disabled due to putting themselves at risk during their years of service.

The US Government broke faith with the military. All of it. It attacked the military. It has had the military on the firing line since Gulf War I under GHW Bush, followed by Bosnia/Kosovo, followed by Afghanistan, and Irag. Three of those operations continue to this day, not to mention the Sinai and Korea missions.

We shouldn't undervalue the service of those who served in any capacity with any honorable result.

21 posted on 12/21/2013 9:50:39 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: darkwing104

The GOP is certainly finding ways to depress the vote in 2014.
With this despicable act and the coming amnesty, they may get their wish.
It’s almost like they wish to retain the status quo, vs pumping up their
base and electing a lot of new Tea Party candidates.
We all know Tea Party candidates are not welcome in DC..


22 posted on 12/21/2013 10:04:56 AM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Bryanw92

They have 2 years to fix this. I believe they will. I am not sweating it. When I went in the military in 1987, the retirement SUCKED….when I retired in 2011 they fixed the retirement to make it pretty great. We should not be sweating this thing especially two years out.


23 posted on 12/21/2013 10:37:07 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: GailA

TRI Prime will see rates go up and higher co-pays,

Even if they double it, the price is incredibly cheap. We are so lucky to have such inexpensive insurance and would be even if doubled.


24 posted on 12/21/2013 10:38:42 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator

If the Prog Pubbies fix it, the “fix” will just be enough to settle down the conservatives enough so they hold their nose and vote for them.

The difference between now and the 1990’s is that the Progressives of both parties finally see victory in sight and they aren’t going to move back now. Remember...their motto is Forward!


25 posted on 12/21/2013 11:07:18 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: darkwing104

I joined the Military in 1975 and remember being spat upon by my fellow citizens whom I took an oath to defend. Now once again our Political class spits on the Military class. I spent 25 years on active duty and still work for the Air Force as a simple servant. I still think and act like the Senior NCO I rose to from ranks during my interesting career providing the same level of service (one of these days I’ve got to learn to be a worthless slimy civilian it would really bring down the stress level).
I also work with a large community of retired Air Force Officer’s and NCOs who are either simple servants or contractors in my current program. Each and every one of use left the service broken men and women and this is how we are thanked for the years of selfless service, long deployments, substandard pay, living conditions not fit for welfare families (got to love that base housing), and family separations with the lies of free medical, dental and eye care for life for 20 years or more of service. Bull excrement! They have poked the bear and push back is coming my slimy lying crap weasel RINO Congress critter (voted for this bill) will have a primary challenger this coming election year not that I have much hope the system will work to get rid of him. At least I know he will stay out our county as we have a very large community of retired Military that would love to make him the guest of honor an old fashioned neck tie party.


26 posted on 12/21/2013 11:13:12 AM PST by KC-10A BOOMER (Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War!)
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To: KC-10A BOOMER
I work with a bunch of fellow retired SNCOs also but as a lousy defense contractor.

As long as the retirees, spouses and the TEA party patriots stick together we can slay this beast.


27 posted on 12/21/2013 11:22:21 AM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: napscoordinator

Obama will still be President in two years. The Democrat party will still be around in two years. The Democrats were handing out $50,000 to make believe pig farmers. Social Security Disability is skyrocketing. The number of Americans receiving foodstamps is skyrocketing. Obama, a man with no qualifications or experience to be President was elected by the American people twice.....twice. If you’re counting on the Republicans taking power after the 2014 election, then you have seen something in the majority of Republican politicians that I haven’t seen. Not a single Democrat Senator voted against the Ryan/Murray Bill. Why not? It’s because the Democrats and the Republican Party are counting on American Veterans to shut up and take it. I know all about political strategy and the need to keep Obamacare up front, but the Democrats understand political strategy, too. They can’t govern worth a damn, but they are masters of political strategy. This taking money from retired Veterans never had to come up. The Democrats did it to hurt the retired Veterans and grab money to use to buy Democrat votes. The Republican politicians could have at least put up a little fight. They didn’t. Why not? Obamacare is falling of its’ own weight, not because of the Republicans. The Democrats are getting waxed right now. Why should the Republicans surrender anything to them? Now is the time for pursuit not falling back.


28 posted on 12/21/2013 11:25:16 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Gutless Republicans? Are there any other kinds?


29 posted on 12/21/2013 11:31:40 AM PST by Rockpile
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To: darkwing104

Patty Murray is claiming that specific cut was Paul Ryan’s idea.
And it fits into to his entitlement reform theme so its believable.

Once it became an agreed upon Republicans jumped for it to avoid any more shutdown fights.


30 posted on 12/21/2013 7:06:02 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: coop223


House of Representatives:

Republicans -- 234

Democrats -- 201

Throw in some vacancies as well, but does not matter. But this Republican does



yet its the dems fault.
31 posted on 12/21/2013 7:17:04 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: sickoflibs
Patty Murray is claiming that specific cut was Paul Ryan’s idea.
And it fits into to his entitlement reform theme so its believable.

As more reporting become available I tend to believe they both went for it. The disabled and spouse provision disappeared from the public record after the bill passed the house. Murray knew about all along and she is the one who led the effort to block Sen. Sessions.

I will not believe anymore promises from anyone involved until it has been reversed...Then again Obama most likely veto it to provide cover for the rats and rinos running for re-election.


32 posted on 12/21/2013 7:22:51 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: darkwing104
RE :”I will not believe anymore promises from anyone involved until it has been reversed...Then again Obama most likely veto it to provide cover for the rats and rinos running for re-election. “

No chance of that. He wont veto ANYTHING that Reid Senate passes, never would.

33 posted on 12/21/2013 7:26:04 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: napscoordinator

If you keep getting no COLA’s and the cost of living keeps increasing you will find, that not to be the case. We are TFL, and hubby is having to half some of his high co-pay meds scripts to make them last 2 months. Between us both being on SS, his Navy pension, we make to much for him to be qualified for VA services.

You will then be making choices between eating and meds. And from what I see coming out of the PCP’s office is high dollar co-pay drugs.

Express Scripts are a pain in the tush to deal with. Lots of flagged drugs, even generics, no consistency on manufacture or country of orgin, For me this is a disaster, many people are drug sensitive like me.

The full goal is to shove you onto 0’care.


34 posted on 12/22/2013 5:56:40 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: darkwing104
Well as we all know there is a lot of waste in DOD budgets.

Last year they repaved the Commissary parking lot, that did not need repaving. Did it on senior shopping day Tue, when it could have been done on Mon when Commissary is closed. Made a lot of senoirs sick.

This year we got electronic price things, that were not needed just a money waster, we also got a few monumental works of art. Not necessary either.

We also got this $7 grand horror installed in 5 mph parking lots of Exchange and Commissary. Now why do we need super sized speed bumps in a 5 mph parking lot pray tell? When you cannot even park the wrong way with out getting a ticket from base police?

We are an inland base in TN, they closed the hospital a few years ago. Then they changed the duty of the base from training to BUPERS record keepers. We had 1 shared Admiral, now we have quite a few more, none of them necessary, they spend more time on the golf course than working.

Retire those with 30 yrs, move the younger ranks up the ladder.

35 posted on 12/22/2013 6:09:32 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Heck just stopping mooch from shopping, and all those vacations, would save BILLIONS. Then there are all those phony congressional fact finding vacations we could eliminate. All the congressional perks, make them pay BC/BS for health care, not the Platinum one WE pay for, for them and their kids till they turn 26.

And not a dime should go off shore except to our Military. And you get no thanks except from fellow Vets either.

Thank you for your service and your sacrifice. THOSE WHO DON’T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON’T KEEP THEM TO U!

Ret. SCPO’s wife.


36 posted on 12/22/2013 6:16:31 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: GailA

Yup. Makes me sick every time I see one of these liberal pukes saying they Have our 6 in that commercial or whining about helping our wounded warriors. They could give a butt less. It is about appearances. Make them look good. They could care less.


37 posted on 12/22/2013 7:12:41 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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