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lafroste

Posted on 12/27/2013 1:25:46 PM PST by lafroste

Life is strange. I want to finish my life elsewhere. I am seriously thinking of moving to the Philippines. I will go there in 18 months. I intend to sell my antiques, motorcycle, and everything else. Tell me where you would recommend I land. What are the costs?


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1 posted on 12/27/2013 1:25:46 PM PST by lafroste
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I hope you’ve been there before and can handle such a social change.

Maybe buy a place away from the flood areas and hurricanes if you can, and after that avoid all the radical Islamic types that want your head. After that, you should be fine.


2 posted on 12/27/2013 1:27:55 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: lafroste

Get yourself a good alarm clock.


3 posted on 12/27/2013 1:27:55 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: lafroste

Stay away from the Moslem terrorists.


4 posted on 12/27/2013 1:28:09 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: lafroste

One FReeper named AlexW (or AlexSW) has lived in the PI for many years and loves it. Recommend reaching out to him.

Good luck!


5 posted on 12/27/2013 1:28:33 PM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: lafroste

My Advice...

1. Learn Spanish
2. Stay in the Northern Philippians to avoid the crazy muzzies that live in the south.

That is all I know at the moment


6 posted on 12/27/2013 1:31:39 PM PST by GraceG
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To: gundog

What kind of motorcycle and what do you want for it?

The Philippines is not a good place for a first time expat.

RLTW.


7 posted on 12/27/2013 1:32:17 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: lafroste

There are some other not-so-distant threads on this topic which would be of use to you, but I can’t remember what they were called.


8 posted on 12/27/2013 1:33:09 PM PST by golux
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To: lafroste

How’s the skiing?


9 posted on 12/27/2013 1:33:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: lafroste; AlexW

AlexW might be able to help


10 posted on 12/27/2013 1:34:02 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: lafroste

Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh. - Philipians 3:2


11 posted on 12/27/2013 1:34:05 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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bkmk


12 posted on 12/27/2013 1:34:27 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: lafroste

I would choose Cagayan de Oro , Cebu or Davao ,,, I have a place in CDO but an in Florida right now. The CDO area has the cheapest and most reliable electric power in the Philippines as it is hydro. As an American you will not be allowed to own land but you can buy a condo ,, you can acquire Philippine citizenship without renouncing your US citizenship under the 2004 law.

Other than electric you will find that utilities are cheaper , water is a flat fee and unmetered , satellite tv is about $15/month with movies and sports ... you can ship furnishings by cargo container to all 3 cities I mentioned (those 3 plus Manila have container ports) but you will find that you can buy solid wood high quality furniture cheaply once you’re there ... if your quantity of goods to ship is small consider using “balikbayan” boxes ,, they will take approx 6 weeks to arrive with door to door service at a cost of about $100 per XL box ...


13 posted on 12/27/2013 1:36:42 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: A CA Guy
Maybe buy a place away from the flood areas and hurricanes

Good idea to try and stay away from typhoons, also lol

14 posted on 12/27/2013 1:38:10 PM PST by steve86 (*Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Paladin2

How’s the skiing?
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Skiing stinks ,, but the snorkeling , fishing and surfing are great.


15 posted on 12/27/2013 1:39:17 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: lafroste

travel.state.gov


16 posted on 12/27/2013 1:39:37 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: military cop

My first thoughts exactly. I mean if you have experience living in other tough places, maybe.

Its a beautiful country, but man does one have to be on one’s toes ALL THE TIME.

Stuff happens in the blink of an eye and comes from nowhere.

Hope to heck you aren’t chasing a PI bride.


17 posted on 12/27/2013 1:40:07 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: lafroste

Art Bell can tell you all you want to know about moving to the Phillipines.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 1:40:48 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: lafroste
I don't know what brought you to this drastic decision, but my advice is forget it. You will be sorry if you go through with this.

Despite all Obama has done to bring us down, the U.S is still the best place on the globe to live.

Consider a small city/town in Texas.

19 posted on 12/27/2013 1:41:27 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: Neidermeyer

Maybe airfare to NZ is less expensive.


20 posted on 12/27/2013 1:44:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: AlexW

ping-a-roonie


21 posted on 12/27/2013 1:47:08 PM PST by deks (Happy New Year!)
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To: steve86

Maybe buy a place away from the flood areas and hurricanes

Good idea to try and stay away from typhoons, also lol
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Floods? DO NOT buy anything in a low area that could flood , river deltas and such ,, buy on high ground. Avoid areas where there is a possibility of mudslides also ... most developers that build “western” quality homes build in good areas.

Hurricanes/typhoons are no joke ... but they travel westward ,, so Cebu and Cagayan being on the west sides of islands will always get the remnants of storms ,, diminished by passing over land and particularly mountains.

There is no such thing as “homeowners” insurance in the Philippines so you will find that new construction by developers will be of “commercial” type construction , “pillar and post” cement with lots of rebar.. it’s the only way that the banks will finance the developers.


22 posted on 12/27/2013 1:48:22 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: patriot08

I live in a small Texas town and would like to keep it that way thank you very much. Having said that, I would recommend a small town anywhere in the US over anyplace in the PI.


23 posted on 12/27/2013 1:53:36 PM PST by yetidog
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To: lafroste

Cebu is the “Queen City” It is the hub of the Philippines. Largest population of retired Navy and Airforce personnel.I have friends retired there. I arrive there 01/13/2014. I’ll stay awhile but I have interests in china. I know there is a local website for americans there who need info of shops, services etc. Email me and I’ll help you further.


24 posted on 12/27/2013 1:53:43 PM PST by rrad8r
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To: Neidermeyer
Look at this (Bianca and Roland Shipping drum):

Still not big enough to ship skis. :-(

25 posted on 12/27/2013 1:54:33 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Hope to heck you aren’t chasing a PI bride.

And what is so wrong about that?

26 posted on 12/27/2013 1:57:47 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: lafroste; A CA Guy; GraceG; AlexW
I hope you’ve been there before and can handle such a social change.

Maybe buy a place away from the flood areas and hurricanes if you can, and after that avoid all the radical Islamic types that want your head.

After that, you should be fine. -guy

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My Advice...

1. Learn Spanish
2. Stay in the Northern Philippians to avoid the crazy muzzies that live in the south.

That is all I know at the moment- Grace

Ignorance is the display of not knowing truth or facts about the subject.

I now live in Davao City on the notorious island of Mindinao. There are Muslims everywhere in the world, but in this city, the mayor is a no-nonsense man that keeps good control of the bad elements.

There are about 2.5 million people in the DaVao City area, and though many people live meager lives, there are 11 mega-malls.

Davao is out of the hurricane region (they are called typhoons in the Pacific!), and I can recall lots of floods in America. It depends on what you want. Alex lives at the beach on Cebu Island. I live on the beach here. I am in a subdivision of around 1000 homes, rich and not-so, and Alex is along the highway. I moved to Davao from Ormoc City, Leyte, the week before Typhoon Yolanda wiped out much of that islands infrastructure and destroyed more than 100,000 homes. God spared me, as the house I rented there was among those destroyed. Manila is the largest city, but it has too many problems, due to almost 20 million population, and subsequent high prices, heavy traffic, and pollution. There are lots of us "forriners" everywhere in the Philippines. p>I came to the Philippines to enjoy my latter years. I am now 66. It is warm, the people are among the friendliest in the world, and you can speak English to anyone, though some look at you like you are speaking a foreign language (hehe). English is the common language. Christianity is prevalent, mostly Roman Catholic, but I attend a Baptist Church, where English is the language used. There are all types of Protestant congregations. You can do a search.

Though Spain was present here for hundreds of years, the common language is NOT SPANISH, though some of the dialects contain modifications of Spanish words. It is a poor country, which benefits us, as we can employ housekeepers, groundskeepers and cooks for $50-75 a month, full time.

Foreigners are prohibited from buying property, but you can buy into a condominium or rent, which is what I do. I rent a three bedroom house looking out over the water for 12,000 PhPesos, at the current exchange rate of 44.46=$1, that is less than $300 a month. My total monthly expenses including food are less than $1000 USD!

For answers to most of your questions, I recommend you join the Yahoo Group:
LivingInThePhilippines3

The view from the front of my house...


27 posted on 12/27/2013 1:58:31 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Today, doesn't it seem like we have a Corrupt Bastards Club in D.C.? On steroids?" -Sarah Palin)
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To: F15Eagle

I have lived in the Philippines since 2001 and have been in and out of the Philippines since 1971 with the US Navy. The first question is; are you single? If so, you will be a target of girls attempting to separate you from your money.

As a foreigner you can not own property, but you can own a condo unit because you don’t own the land.

You will only be able to get a visitors visa good for 180 days, (you’ll need to check that law), and renewable for a limited number of times before you will need to leave the country for 24 hours.

There are some other types of visas that will allow you to be a permanent residence, (like the US green card), but you’ll need to research them.

I recommend that if you wish to live here, first come and visit for 6 months. Do not transfer your money to a Philippine bank. Use your bank’s ATM to access funds and only withdraw a specific amount a month, (stay on a tight budget). Do not buy any major items, (condo, cars, appliances etc.), because you will have a hard time selling them for the resale value, (especially houses and cars).

Stay away from the girlie clubs and do not hook up with a girl you met on the internet. These will quickly separate you from your money.

Send me a private message if you want more info.


28 posted on 12/27/2013 1:59:45 PM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: ClaytonP

The cultures are too different. I have worked with many.


29 posted on 12/27/2013 2:00:44 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: lafroste
Expat Exhchange:  10 Tips for Living in The Philippines

http://www.expatexchange.com/ctryguide/4144/90/Philippines/Expat-Philippines-10-Tips-for-Living-in-The-Philippines

Expats seem to unanimously agree that the best thing about living in the Philippines is the Filipino people. The cost of living is another thing to love. Expats share their tips and experiences living in The Philippines.

30 posted on 12/27/2013 2:02:13 PM PST by hamboy
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To: lafroste

I recommend you visit first. If you like it, go back.


31 posted on 12/27/2013 2:03:38 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truthorth reading)
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To: lafroste
Hire bodyguards.
32 posted on 12/27/2013 2:05:49 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: lafroste

Been to the Philippines and Davao City is the best place. Peaceful, people are kind and quality of life is better than the rest of the country.


33 posted on 12/27/2013 2:06:17 PM PST by esqmama
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To: GraceG
Tagalog would serve better than Spanish. It's an odd mix of the original Malay (more formally "Austronesian") dialects, Spanish, and the frequent and surprising entire phrase in English thrown in. Anyone there with a decent education (the percentage of Filipinos with college degrees is astonishing) can speak a fair amount of English.

The people there are incredibly warm and friendly. But there are parts of Manila where Caucasians simply should not venture without locals to accompany them. And the south of the country is where they have the major problems with Muslim guerrillas and terror groups.

34 posted on 12/27/2013 2:08:08 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: lafroste

Stay away from the south islands............Islamists or plain criminals will kidnap you and hold you for ransom..................


35 posted on 12/27/2013 2:11:11 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: lafroste

You won’t be lonely.

Many Americans move there after retirement.

I work in Seattle.

Filipinos are [or were] the largest immigrant group here.

There’s a pretty significant intermarriage rate, usually Filipino women marry white guys, and quite often the white guys have well paid jobs, at my company anyway.

A couple things to keep in mind.

It is freaking hot and humid there ALL the time.

I grew up in south Florida, and the Philippines are worse, much worse.

Also, unless the laws have recently changed, Americans can’t really own anything there.

The guys I know who move there have to put homes and cars in their wives’ names.

And, if you invest in a business, or try to start a business, that has to be in your wife’s name, too, so be sure she loves you or she might wander away with your heart AND your money!

Also, if you buy a home, you can’t just lock it up and spend 6 months a year in a cool climate, because when you come back, there will be strangers living in your house, which, apparently, is completely legal.

Last word of advice, every dispute or confrontation between an American and a Filipino will end badly for the American.

The people are very nice, but very clannish, too, so if you become rude, or angry, or threatening, you are going to be fighting a mob of Filipinos all by yourself!


36 posted on 12/27/2013 2:13:40 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: patriot08
The cultures are too different. I have worked with many.

Considering the ruination of feminism, that is the main feature.

37 posted on 12/27/2013 2:18:21 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: lafroste

One more word of advice.....

You spelled “Philippines” wrong in your title.

That might irritate a few people!


38 posted on 12/27/2013 2:26:28 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: lafroste

Cebu and of course Manila are the major airports.

Maid/housekeeper. About $90 per month

Houseboy/gardener/driver. $100

Lots of new development, condos, golf courses by old Clark Air Force base.

Lots of islands, beaches. Etc.

If you have money check out white plains north of Manila. Or makati if you have even more bucks. Better life style you lead more kidnapping concern. Bodyguard services available.


39 posted on 12/27/2013 2:41:52 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: lafroste

The best place in the Phillipines is the international departure lounge of Ninoy Aquino International Airport.


40 posted on 12/27/2013 2:54:58 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: lafroste

Here is an article about being an ex-pat in Belize.

http://www.belizefirst.com/rules.html

1. It is an article that might have some tips you will find worthwhile.

2 Belize might be a country you would want to consider.


41 posted on 12/27/2013 3:06:13 PM PST by JLS
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To: military cop

It’s a 1987 Harley Sportster, and in excellent condition.


42 posted on 12/27/2013 3:19:40 PM PST by lafroste
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To: lafroste

Just woke up, 6:30 AM here on Cebu, to find this thread.
Thanks to WVKayaker for pinging me.

Sad to say, many of the replies on the thread are total nonsense.
So much so, it is hard to know where to start.
To begin with, the Philippines is best suited for single men of any age, and a paradise for older single men. Unlike in the west, girls are blind to the age of men.
It is best to start meeting girls online. From after my US divorce in 1999, I met girls online from all over the world, but an overwhelming number from the Philippines.
My interest at the time was central Europe, and I started my first travels there, living in Slovakia for four years before making a one month trip to the Philippines in 2008, traveling only the Visayas region, the best.
Out of four girls that I visited, I chose to return to Cebu to be with girl number one. I could have, however, been happy with any of the four.
I am now married to girl one, and we have a bright young boy, almost 3 years old. He is standing next to me now playing U-tube games on his laptop.

We live on a beach in Dalaguete, Cebu. Dalaguete is the vegetable capital of Cebu, but if I want high ground, 3100 foot Osmena Peak is only a few miles from me. As with most of the Philippines, Visayas offers a great mix of sea and mountains.
One nice thing about living in the provinces is that a car is not necessary, and I know very few expats that do. I travel anywhere in town on my bicycle.
If I go out of town, I catch a bus on the highway, not so far from my beach. The wait is usually less then five min., and you just wave your hand for one to stop.
The bus is modern, with A/C, Wi-Fi, on-board movies, and airliner type seats. I can be in Cebu city in about two hours.
There are a number of western men living in my town. My landlady’s husband, a 20 year resident, is from PA. A new neighbor, down the street, is from Cape Cod, and married for some time to a Philippine lady.
The three of us meet most every afternoon in our shaded beach garden beside the sea, and have a few cold San Miguel’s (Philippine beer, rated as one of the best in the world).
There are numerous other western guys from the US and Europe. I have to confess, however, I do not go out of my way to meet any of them. I am happy without having to hang out with other westerners
As for the Muzies, the danger is quite exaggerated. In my five years I have never knowingly seen one. Their is, however, some problem with them down on the western side of Mindanao. Most everyone in Visayas is Roman Catholic, and very devout.

Feel free to ask any questions, but watch out for the “dogs in a manger” group on FR. It consist of about four sad kids in the US that hate my guts because I express my joy of living here. I DO NOT feel their pain, haha.

OK, that is my two cents for now, but feel free to FR mail any questions to me, or any of the active PH Freepers.


43 posted on 12/27/2013 3:35:32 PM PST by AlexW
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To: morphing libertarian; lafroste
Better life style you lead more kidnapping concern. Bodyguard services available. -ML

I have a very good friend here in Davao City, who is a retired Philippine Army General and now teaches in the Police College here. He is aware of everything happening in the Philippines, and currently, there are not many kidnappings. Here in Davao City, the Police have special squads which keep the crime level at a minimum. There is even a purported "death squad" to eradicate certain offenders and drug dealers, but he denies that one.

I was at the new G-Mall in Toril yesterday, on my Honda Scoopy scooter. I had to dismount so they could check under the seat for bombs. They use mirrors to examine the undercarriage of all vehicles entering the premises, and that is common at almost all of the local malls.

I don't worry about anything here. It offers a casual lifestyle, with lots of new friends made daily. Are they different? Yes, they all smile at you, and most of the clerks, male and female in the stores, are singing along with the background music!!! You can get a McDonalds Happy Meal, or a Pizza Hut pie.

If you worry about such things, you may end up sitting around doing nothing. There were lots of victims in the WTC attack, too, and they were just doing their jobs, in New York City!

... A risk counstancy group, The Pacific Strategies & Assessments (PSA) released a report showing that there were 135 kidnapping for ransom cases in 2008 which was an increase of 25% from 2007. The report indicated that 76% of those kidnapped in the Philippines were Filipino.

Those most likely to be kidnapped were upper middle class and not the affluent or politically connected. It is said the kidnapping gangs believe there will be less risk to them by going after the less connected individual. This helps to keep their activities under the radar of the press. Likewise, kidnapping foreigners brings the kidnap for ransom groups far more attention than they wish to bare.

So in the end, while kidnappings in the Philippines are still a significant threat, kidnappings on expats are far less common. ... -Cebuexperience.com


44 posted on 12/27/2013 3:44:33 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Today, doesn't it seem like we have a Corrupt Bastards Club in D.C.? On steroids?" -Sarah Palin)
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To: lafroste

“If it sounds too good to be true...”
DON’T do it.


45 posted on 12/27/2013 4:09:24 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: WVKayaker

I have been told by my wife’s family most kidnappers are province based and know to the police. They try to get a few tens of thousands now and then.

When we were there, my wife’s friend who was running for senate from Bagio(?) was allowed to go to the military base in Manila and select bodyguards. We saw those guys. They looked like corn-fed samoans.

Best Wishes! Salamat!


46 posted on 12/27/2013 4:24:43 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: lafroste
My Filipina wife and I have a house in Baguio City, which is north of Manila. It's in the mountains and is one of the few places in the Philippines where you don't need AC. Humidity is high, but you don't feel it. Salt clumps in the shakers though.

Prices are higher here than in the low country, as it cost money to bring goods up the mountain. The cost of goods are even higher in Baguio then in Virginia, so pick your spot with that in mind. On the other hand, labor is very cheap. I could hire a housekeeper for maybe $70. My SIL lives next door so that's not necessary for me.

As others who know have said, the people are wonderful and will win you over with their welcoming ways.

Crime happens, but name me a place where it doesn't. You can't own a firearm. My experience is good in this regard, as no one has tried to cheat me, mug me, or even yell at me. YMMV.

As AlexW said, you might not need a car. I know that I don't. I walk out to the street and within 3 minutes a cab goes by. It costs less than $1.00 to go to the mall which is my main destination. One stop shopping. If I buy a lot, the shopkeeper will send a man to carry my goods to the cabstand.

47 posted on 12/27/2013 4:43:38 PM PST by Wingy
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To: lafroste

Have never been there, but have worked with many Phillipinos (however it’s spelled) usually wonderful, kind, gentle-mannered people - in fact we live next to a Phillipino family - their son sometimes continues on down the block to edge our lawn while he’s doing theirs, so this Christmas we sent him a modest-sized food assortment from one of the on-line companies - come Christmas eve we received delivery of a gigantic fruit arrangement from the family which took us and most of our twenty guests at the time much of the evening to take care of - you’ll just have to adjust to the good manners and thoughtful treatment if you go there....


48 posted on 12/27/2013 4:54:53 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: morphing libertarian

Bagio I understand has the best weather-california-like. It floods a lot so I’d stay there from Nov-May and then leave.


49 posted on 12/27/2013 4:58:25 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: lafroste

Does the “rule of law” mean anything to you ?


50 posted on 12/27/2013 4:59:28 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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