Posted on 12/30/2013 12:39:19 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
The Battle of the Sexes has been raging lately in DUmmieland. The angry DUmmie women (is there any other kind?) have been accusing the men--all men--of being sexist and misogynist and potential rapists. Some of the DUmmie men have dared to defend themselves, but in vain. Political correctness must win out, at all costs.
Well, guess who feels left out? The LSMFT community, i.e., the Lezbo Sodomite Masochist Fag Transangered community. There must be Fifty Shades of Gay, and they all want to have their say. You see, in DUmmieland, to be fair, the Battle of the Sexes must include ALL the sexes. Bisexuals, trisexuals, omnisexuals--EVERYBODY must be entitled to feel oppressed and put upon, to express their outrage, to take great umbrage, and to harrumph in high DUdgeon. We must decry sexism of ALL varieties!
Witness this THREAD, "Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?" Short answer: Yes, unless you straight men are willing to date transgender women, it IS transphobic! And therefore we must decry it! In DUmmieland, we ALWAYS play the Decrying Game! So click the music link and sing along!
THE DECRYING GAME
Tune: "The Crying Game"
I know all
There is to know
Of the decrying game
I'd like to share
The decrying game
First there are sexists
Then there are slurs
And just you wait
They're basing their hate
On the sex you prefer
Pflag unfurled
I'm gonna tell the world
Of the decrying game
And I'll make sure
That they feel my pain
Why are there haters?
Why are there phobes?
That's who we'll blast
We'll drive them at last
From off of the globe . . .
First there are sexists
Then there are slurs
And just you wait
They're basing their hate
On the sex you prefer
Don't want no phobes
In the decrying game
Don't want no phobes
In the decrying game
Don't want no phobes
In the decrying game
Don't want no phobes
In the decrying game
So let us now go to DUmmieland and observe the Battle of ALL the Sexes, in Rainbow Red, while the commentary of your humble guest correspondent, Charles Henrickson, the wag tailoring the doggerel, is in the [brackets]:
Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?
[Yes, not only must you WANT to date them, you must actually DU it! DUAC! DUAC!]
a narrative of desire around trans bodies does not exist & in that absence one of degradation and shame is offered in its place. So automatically you have sexualities and accompanying desires shaped in a context of transphobia, which both excludes and pathologizes trans bodies as abhorrent.
[Don't be fearful
Don't be phobic
Date a trans
And be heroic!]
A lot of male sexuality is also constructed around employing hierarchies of womanhood as trophies, to prove their own worth and engage in a process of gendering themselves through access to womens’ bodies. Within that framework, some hold more currency and others (transwomen) can actually subvert heteronormative male sexualities. The opinions and shared norms of sexuality among peers, performed on womens’ bodies, plays a huge part in constructing their sexuality as well. You can imagine where transwomen fall on this scale.
[Some of the transwomen fall on the scale at about 250.]
There’s also the fact that most men dont even have enough literacy of our bodies and our lives to even know who we are and if they are attracted to us. And dont attempt to do so because of cisnormativity.
[Wasn't there a Cisnormal guy who served in the Clinton cabinet?]
With that being said, we live in the world we live in. If a man chooses not to date a transwoman, whatever the reason, that is his choice (though one probably informed by cisnormativity.) I am however concerned with if, in not dating transwomen, he also reinforces cissexism and transphobia in his words and actions.
[And by NOT dating them, he IS reinforcing cissexism! So don't be a cissy, date a sissy!]
Everything is not for everybody nor does it have to be (even though ironically transwomen seem to always get the short end of this stick hmmm.)
[Yes, they always do get the short end of the stick.]
But what are men doing to not actively continue & participate in this cycle of shame around transwomens’ bodies? What are they doing to stop putting our lives at risk? How are they discussing our bodies and lives? In choosing not to date us, are they offering up bioessentialist rhetoric and trying to delegitimize/undermine our genders?
[Remember, remember
To date a transgender
Transexism still must be fought
And don't be transphobing
When they are disrobing
And you see more than you thought]
what are you doing to create & not participate in a society that shames & degrades the concept of desire around transbodies?
[Embrace transbodies! Celebrate transbodies! DU something!!!]
I wont make a blanket statement. . . .
[Whew! I was worried I'd have to get under the blanket with you!]
I wont make a blanket statement and say that ANY man who doesnt date transwomen is transphobic. But. . . .
[. . . I will pretty much do that now anyway . . .]
But I will say that we live in a transphobic and cissexist society. And that most men ARE transphobic and cissexist.
[I plead guilty. Now on to the DUmmies . . .]
This thread has the potential to be very big. . . .
[As big as a hefty transwoman.]
There's no such thing as fairness or equality when it comes to sexuality.
[Then let's pass a law! DEMAND fairness! DEMAND equality! Equal-opportunity dating!]
I don't think we necessarily choose who we are attracted to.
[That's just it! We need somebody to choose FOR us! We're too cissexist! Appoint an attraction czar! Establish date panels!]
If I fell in love with a man who used to be a woman, I don't think it would make me fall out of love. In fact it would certainly have it's advantages as in he'd know what it's like in a woman's world. Julie
[Julie, you are truly a DUmmie without guile. Yes, and you men, think of all the advantages of dating a woman who used to be a man. Think of them. . . . Well, now, somehow I can't think of any. . . .]
That's love for you! it just sneaks up on you from out from nowhere sometimes!
[If I dated a transwoman, I'd be worried about what might sneak up on me.]
While it's not guaranteed to be ignorant or transphobic...it probably is.
[Sexism is default mode for men.]
Love is one area where you have the right to discriminate. . . .
[THAT'S CISSEXIST!]
That's stupid. A man can date whoever he feels like dating. Don't call a young man transphobic because he doesn't want to date someone. . . . What bullsh*t.
[LOUSY TRANSPHOBIC TROLL!!!]
if an individual doesn't want to date "well-endowed" women, does that make him Breastophobic?
[I think the technical term is Aracknophobia.]
It would be ignorant and transphobic for a straight man to rule out the possibility that they could ever find a transgender woman irresistible.
If she's a Republican, no.
[There's the deal-breaker.]
I'm a trans woman and I never had any interest whatsoever in dating men. Is it transphobic for a lesbian to not date a trans woman or is it transphobic for a straight woman or gay man to not date a trans man?
[Did you all follow that? . . . Neither did I.]
Me too. If anything, a good DUmmie Funny demonstrates how grossly ignorant the American voting public is.
If they had ANY idea that when they voted democrat...they were in essence voting with THESE people and supporting their way of life...these....strange...sad people....they would run from the democratic party in droves.
But again....they'll never put 2 and 2 together. It's about their check...not siding with the devil.
Trying to make sense of this is enough to cause trans-Phobic spinning ...
Thanks, Charles! This one really irritated me, because according to the Left and Lady GaGa, LGBT people are
BORN THIS WAY
BORN THIS WAY
BORN THIS WAY
So don’t you even dare suggest that they could ever be anything different than what they are. Gay people are ONLY gay. The fundies who dare to suggest that gay sexual orientation can be changed are the moral equivalent of Dr. Mengele.
And yet...if you’re straight, you MUST be open to dating chicks with idcks. If not YOU ARE AN EVIL HATER.
Total double standard. Everyone is “born that way” unless you’re straight.
Lets see if you are a transwomen lesbian, were you before you became a transwomen a straight man? If you were, why have the surgery?
The new face of Liberalism!
That thread made my hair hurt!
And these insane whack jobs are running the country.
And these insane whack jobs are ruining the country.
There, fixed it.
Typo!
The “transwoman” that I met a number of years ago (don’t ask how) had previously been a gay guy. Once he/she/it got his tallywhacker removed, he/she/it decided to become a lesbian. I found the whole situation totally incomprehensible. I’ll stick to a Trans Am, thank you.
This is cislunacy.
“The Crying Game”, “Springtime for Hitler” and “Remember, Remember The Fifth Of November”. All in one post.
Bravo, sir. Bravo, I say.
Not to be confused with being a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
Thank you, thank you very much. I'm glad you caught the references. Not everyone does.
I endeavour to give satisfaction, sir.
You CANNOT dress like a three headed rooster with 12ft octopus tenticles coming out of you and then walk through the mall expecting nobody to take notice.
Then call them whatever-phobic for staring at you....
“”””A lot of male sexuality is also constructed around employing hierarchies of womanhood as trophies, to prove their own worth and engage in a process of gendering themselves through access to womens’ bodies. Within that framework, some hold more currency and others (transwomen) can actually subvert heteronormative male sexualities. The opinions and shared norms of sexuality among peers, performed on womens’ bodies, plays a huge part in constructing their sexuality as well. You can imagine where transwomen fall on this scale.””””
Is this some kid fresh out of college trying to impress everyone with their new “research” and use of big words?
Lemme guess.... Liberal Arts degree?
Geeeezzz... if I spent my money and sent my kid to college and this is the only way he could make himself useful, I would be pissed!
Oh excuse me, I said “HE” and “HIMSELF”. I should have said “he, she, or nongenderspecific” Sorry for my lack of political correctness.
(rolleyes)
Even my gay brother thought the guy was confused beyond belief.
All DUFU-ish joking aside, if I had a friend like that, I’d be polite in telling them to seek some counseling.
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