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Remington Announces New R-51 Pistol
thefirearmblog.com ^ | 1-1-2014 | Phil White

Posted on 01/03/2014 12:10:07 AM PST by servo1969

During the first part of December a group of firearm writers, including myself, were invited by Remington to the 2014 New Defense/Tactical Products Seminar held at the Gunsite Academy in Paulden, Arizona. To say I was excited to go would be an understatement!

As it turns out I would have been even more excited if I had known what was in store for us. Each day we would meet in a classroom and discuss products before heading to the various ranges for a day of shooting. This particular morning a presentation was on the screen and there was a pistol I’d never seen but looked somewhat familiar. The pistol turned out to be the new Remington Model 51 pistol in 9MM! (shipping in February)

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The R-51 looked familiar because this new pistol is based on the John Pederson designed original model 51. For those not familiar with the model 51 there were 65,000 pistols made in .32 and .380 caliber between 1918 and 1927. Small numbers were made with existing parts into the 1930’s.

CAD Video of R-51 Firing

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The mechanism of the model 51 is unique and only used in one handgun and that’s the model 51. The layout of the Remington 51 is similar to the Walther PPK pistol in the use of a stationary barrel and recoil spring surrounding the barrel. However, the unique feature is the use of a locking breech block within the slide. When the pistol is in battery, the breech block rests slightly forward of the locking shoulder in the frame. When the cartridge is fired, the bolt and slide move together a short distance rearward powered by the energy of the cartridge as in a standard blowback system. When the breech block contacts the locking shoulder, it stops, locking the breech. The slide continues rearward with the momentum it acquired initially. This allows chamber pressure to drop to safe levels while the breech is locked and the cartridge slightly extracted. Once the bullet leaves the barrel and pressure drops, and the continuing motion of the slide lifts the breech block from its locking recess through a cam arrangement, continuing the operating cycle.

Now that I’ve laid the base for the origin of the new Remington R-51 lets move on to this new pistol. First let me emphasize that the R-51 is not a rehash of the older pistol. Remington engineers have spent countless hours redesigning from the original to create this updated pistol.

R51-TopView

The R-51 uses the Pederson action but that’s where we depart from the original. As you can see from the photos the entire pistol has been streamlined and dehorned. There’s not one sharp edge anywhere on this pistol. The magazine release is ambidextrous. There is the usual internal drop safety. The primary safety is the grip safety. As you draw the pistol you can feel as well as hear the grip safety click and disengage. Once the grip safety is depressed you’re ready to fire. The R-51 has an internal hammer you would term this a single action.

R51-DetailGripSafety

The trigger is really very good and has the same feel as a 1911. In fact the trigger moves straight back like a 1911. The trigger itself looks a good deal like a 1911 having a stirrup configuration. The R51 is very fast to get into action since you have no safeties you consciously have to release. It’s straightforward draw and fire. Trigger reset is short making follow-up shots fast.

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A good deal of time was also spent on getting the grip circumference and angle as close to perfect as they could manage. They did a good job because the grip not only feels good but it’s a natural pointer. When you draw and bring the pistol on target the sights are pretty much lined up. The shooters hand also sits very high and much closer to the bore axis reducing felt recoil.

R51-Profile-Left

As far as calibers the R-51 is rated for 9MM+P ammo. A .40 caliber version will be next in the lineup. The magazine capacity is 7+1. Of course this is a compact pistol with a single stack magazine. Night sights are also an option. A Crimson Trace model will be available as well as one with a threaded barrel for a suppressor.

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Other features of the R-51 include an undercut trigger guard as well as 25 lpi front strap checkering. Larger grip inserts are available for those with larger hands. The pistol also has a lowered and flared ejection port. The barrel is made of 416 stainless steel.

Shooting the R-51

After our classroom session learning the history and attributes we all headed for the range for an afternoon of shooting the R-51.

We used one of the ranges equipped with steel targets so we could get instant feedback. The Remington guys had a table with eight R-51’s lined up along with a table with several cases of ammo. The pistols we used were everything from early prototypes to pre production models.

I can tell you we all did our duty trying to break one by firing thousands of rounds of ammo. We used ball ammo as well as hollowpoints. The only difficulty I saw that afternoon was an early prototype that broke. There’s nothing unexpected in a prototype breaking down. Eight shooters fired non-stop for hours. At one point they had to make an ammo run and bring back more ammo.

We fired many thousands of rounds and I saw one failure to feed. Not bad at all considering we fired about eight or ten cases of ammo in eight guns. As you can see from the photo there was enough brass on the ground to walk around and never touch the ground! I can’t speak for the other writers but I’m sold on the R-51. A pistol that handles this well and shows that kind of reliability has to get some serious attention. Accuracy was also good in no small part to the fixed barrel.

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One thing that happens all the time with the release of a new pistol is a lack of holsters. Well not this time. Galco has a leather holster. Fobus, Crossbreed and Comp-Tac all have holsters available now. Besides the Crimson Trace model other lasers are available from Laserlyte and Lasermax.

The price of the R-51 is pretty amazing to me. MSRP is $389! This price is just way under what I expected.

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Ballistic gelatin test There’s a new type of ammo in the photo also.

The R-51 will be shipping to dealers on February 1st. After the range session we all got together with the Remington reps and discussed the pistol for an hour or so. None of us really had any significant changes we thought should be made. I don’t know of one writer that didn’t like this new pistol myself included.

Stats
Weight 20 oz
Width .96
Length 6 inches
Height 4.5 inches
Barrel length 3.4
Internal Hammer SA

I hope you all enjoyed this announcement and review! Our readers are one of if not the first to hear about it! There’s more to come—-


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Science; Sports
KEYWORDS: banglist; pistol; r51; remington
What's old is new.

Remington's site has no info about the R-51 yet.

Jeff Quinn at Gunblast.com did get to spend a few hours trying a pre-production model and had good things say about it. He won't pass final judgement until he gets a production model but he says the MSRP will be under $400.00 so street price should be in the $375 range.

1 posted on 01/03/2014 12:10:08 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

This will be made of unobtainium....if you want one order it ASAP and pray you see it by Christmas. Like the PMR30, the RMR30 etc. you will hear a lot about this gun but actual samples will be rare as hens teeth for a long time.


2 posted on 01/03/2014 12:21:32 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: nvscanman
Yeah.
Trigger Happy Guns made the comment:
"Here's hoping Remington is nothing like Ruger in the roll out of their new pistols. If Ruger says mid-February, they mean for only <1% of their dealers and the rest get them in 9-18 months."
3 posted on 01/03/2014 12:24:53 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I like....:thumbs up:


4 posted on 01/03/2014 1:09:50 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: servo1969

Sorry but they took an $80 million bribe to stay in New York State. I don’t buy Remington and I discourage others from doing so.


5 posted on 01/03/2014 3:09:55 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: servo1969

I love the retro design. May have to get one.


6 posted on 01/03/2014 4:02:13 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: servo1969

Looks like a Ray Gun from a Buster Crab short.


7 posted on 01/03/2014 5:28:59 AM PST by Patriot365
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To: nonliberal

Thanks for the tip.


8 posted on 01/03/2014 5:32:14 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Patriot365

Bond.
James Bond.


9 posted on 01/03/2014 5:39:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: nonliberal

I agree.


10 posted on 01/03/2014 5:43:48 AM PST by ndafill
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To: nonliberal

Thanks for the tip.I just researched it money over principle.


11 posted on 01/03/2014 5:46:10 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: servo1969

Looks a bit like my Russian Makarov.


12 posted on 01/03/2014 6:18:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Bond. James Bond.

Yes, except for the trigger, it does look a little like Bond's Walther PPK

Or maybe the Russian Makarov

13 posted on 01/03/2014 6:39:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: servo1969

Design is interesting. Price is amazing. If they produce a subcompact version of this (barrel sub 3” , and grip smaller), I would definitely get one.


14 posted on 01/03/2014 6:44:53 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: 3Fingas
An all metal hand gun.
What a novel idea !
15 posted on 01/03/2014 6:54:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: nvscanman
This will be made of unobtainium

Thanks for delivering my morning laugh!

16 posted on 01/03/2014 7:21:28 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: nonliberal

I was seriously interested in this in a .40 cal until your post. I will not purchase a Remington product for that very reason.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 7:57:31 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: nvscanman

I waited two years for delivery of my PMR 30 from Impact.com. Its a great little gun and I’ve been offered $1,000.00 for it several times but I think Keltec deliberately under produces to create demand.


18 posted on 01/03/2014 8:02:55 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: servo1969; 300winmag; Squantos; g'nad; Ramius

Servc1969 - thanks for posting.

Hey guys - a new Remington, guess we’ll see it at our LGS this next year. Nice variety of single stack 9mms available these days.


19 posted on 01/03/2014 8:12:22 AM PST by osagebowman
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To: nonliberal

Same here.... Vote with your dollars between elections.


20 posted on 01/03/2014 8:18:57 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: osagebowman
Hey guys - a new Remington, guess we’ll see it at our LGS this next year.

I would like it more if it looked more like the original style. A couple too many gratuitous swoops on the slide. Still, with a low bore axis, it might be a real sweet shooter. With only a grip safety, I'm predicting a lot of NDs when morons try to holster it. Not that they need any extra special features to screw things up. The real proof of the design will be how easy it is to enhance performance.

As far as politics go, Remington still has a couple of fingers poking in the gun-grabber's eye. NY is getting TAXED to keep a GUN COMPANY in a state that they don't want in that state. In the Obamaconomy, the few jobs Remington could take out of state does not match the $80 million the state paid to keep them there. That's $80 million that could have been used for something even more harmful to New York than keeping an arms-maker producing nifty handguns, even if New York does not recognize most of the Bill of Rights.

21 posted on 01/03/2014 9:14:43 AM PST by 300winmag (Whatever CAN go wrong has already happened. We just don't know about it yet.)
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To: servo1969

It has a wonderful retro look to it.


22 posted on 01/03/2014 9:52:10 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: servo1969

I got to shoot a 1920s Remington 380 back in 1976 . That little peach was like new and I remember being quite impressed by the machining quality of the piece and it’s accuracy.


23 posted on 01/03/2014 10:23:42 AM PST by Rockpile
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To: Rappini

Glad I could help, especially since Magpul just announced they are leaving Colorado.


24 posted on 01/03/2014 3:39:22 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: nonliberal

When did that happen? Hopefully after I purchased my 870 Super Mag shotgun in 1999... so I wont feel guilty.


25 posted on 01/03/2014 5:03:00 PM PST by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: ro_dreaming

It was last year, so you are fine.


26 posted on 01/05/2014 2:31:25 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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