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Retired Air Force Colonel With Three Graduate Degrees Is Homeless And Sleeps In A Van
TEC ^ | 01/06/2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/06/2014 1:49:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Blue Van - Photo by SuperTank17What advice would you give to a retired Air Force Colonel that has three graduate degrees and that cannot even find work as a janitor? 59-year-old Robert Freniere once served as a special assistant to General Stanley McChrystal, and he has spent extensive time in both Iraq and Afghanistan. But now this man who once had an office in the heart of the Pentagon cannot find anyone who will hire him. In addition to his story, in this article you will also hear about several other middle-aged professionals that cannot find work in this economy either. Despite what the Obama administration and the mainstream media are telling you, the truth is that there has been no employment recovery in this country. What you are about to read is absolutely heartbreaking, but it represents the reality of what is really going on out there in the streets of America today.

A lot of unemployed Americans believe that they cannot find work because they don't have enough "education" or enough "experience". Well, the truth is that there are a whole lot of people out there like Freniere that have lots of both and still can't even get hired as a janitor...

After a 30-year military career in which he earned three graduate degrees, rose to the rank of colonel, and served as an aide to Pentagon brass, Robert Freniere can guess what people might say when they learn he's unemployed and lives out of his van:

Why doesn't this guy get a job as a janitor?

Freniere answers his own question: "Well, I've tried that."

Freniere, 59, says that his plea for help, to a janitor he once praised when the man was mopping the floors of his Washington office, went unfulfilled. So have dozens of job applications, he says, the ones he has filled out six hours a day, day after day, on public library computers.

So Freniere, a man who braved multiple combat zones and was hailed as "a leading light" by an admiral, is now fighting a new battle: homelessness.

You can read the rest of that article right here. This just shows how badly the private sector in the United States is failing. Someone with Freniere's education and experience should be able to find work easily if our economy truly was healthy.

And of course Freniere is far from alone. Just consider the story of 59-year-old Nancy Shields...

Earlier last year, the 59-year-old Shields lost her townhouse and now rents a single room in her Southern California town. At one point, she managed a team of 60 people for a large retailer. She lost that job in 2011 but took another one—and a 20 percent pay cut—some months later. When that store closed in 2012, her luck ran out, and she has been looking for work ever since.

"My federal [unemployment] benefits (were) about $1,200 a month, and that's all I get. … I have been very dependent on the generosity of my family members," Shields said.

Her retirement savings exhausted, Shields said she doesn't know what she'll do if Congress doesn't eventually authorize an extension.

As I have written about previously, a lot of unemployed Americans are going to lose their last lifeline now that their extended unemployment benefits are being cut off. In fact, it is being projected that a total of 5 million unemployed Americans will lose their benefits by the end of 2014. Many of those unemployed workers will end up losing everything. One example of this is 53-year-old biotech researcher Vera Volk...

Massachusetts resident Vera Volk also has a master's degree, but the 53-year-old biotech researcher lost her job at the end of May and has been selling prized possessions in order to stay afloat.

"We've had to cash in everything that we could potentially cash in," Volk said. "We've got our water heater down to the lowest we could potentially tolerate." Volk's extended unemployment benefits of $480 a week are the couple's sole source of income. They're four months behind on their mortgage, and although she and her husband have chronic health conditions, they couldn't afford to keep paying for health insurance.

What would you do if you lost your job and couldn't find another one no matter how hard you tried?

How would you stay afloat?

For 37-year-old Jeremy Botta, it is probably going to come down to selling off his most important possessions...

The pickup truck will probably be the first thing to go.

It’s the first new car that Jeremy Botta has ever bought, using his savings from working for more than 14 years at the same auto repair shop. “I bent over backwards—I worked almost a 100 hours a week on my salary to turn that store around,” said Botta, 37, who was laid off in April after the shop changed owners.

Have you ever worked 100 hours a week?

There are many Americans out there that put in crazy hours month after month and end up with nothing to show for it.

Now Botta is facing the very real possibility that he will have to sell his house just to survive...

“If it comes down to it, I’ll have to sell the house,” says Botta, who bought the place in Bend, Ore., just months before he suddenly lost his job, which netted him as much as $60,000 in a good year. Having already raided his retirement savings, Botta thinks he’ll need to take three or four part-time jobs, working 60 to 70 hours a week just to get by without the unemployment checks.

“I don’t know how people make it on minimum wage,” says Botta. Having applied for nearly 100 jobs without luck—including cashier’s positions at Home Depot and Lowe’s—Botta expects he’ll be pumping gas if he’s lucky.

In a previous article entitled "15 Signs That The Quality Of Jobs In America Is Going Downhill Really Fast", I detailed how the quality of the jobs in the United States is rapidly deteriorating.

And these days it is not just those with little education that are being forced to work low paying jobs. In fact, the number of college graduates working minimum wage jobs has doubled since 2007.

In addition, according to a National Employment Law Project study about 60 percent of the jobs that have been "created" since the end of the last recession pay $13.83 or less an hour.

But you can't support a family on that kind of an income. In millions of homes in America today, both the father and the mother work multiple jobs and there still isn't enough money at the end of the month.

The middle class is being systematically destroyed and poverty is absolutely soaring. In some areas of the country, more than 40 percent of the people live below the poverty line. You can check out an interactive map which shows where the highest levels of poverty in America are right here. As you can see, the southern half of the nation has been hit particularly hard.

In a desperate attempt to stay afloat, more Americans than ever are turning to emergency loans. I have written about the payday loan scam previously, but now a new twist on that scam has emerged.

They are being called "workplace loans", and companies all over America are beginning to offer them as "benefits" to their workers. But the effective annual percentage rate on these loans can be as high as 165 percent...

Arizona Restaurant Systems Inc., a Scottsdale, Ariz., company that operates 28 Sonic locations in the state, allows workers to take out loans ranging from $150 to $500 that typically last two weeks.

The fees, ranging from $8 to $25 plus interest, don't go to the restaurant franchisee, but to a lender called Think Finance Inc., which makes the loans. Based on the fees, the loans carry an effective annual percentage rate of 100% to 165%.

Please don't get trapped in any of those loans. They simply are not worth it.

Unfortunately, this is just the start of our economic problems. We are in the midst of a long-term economic decline that will soon greatly accelerate.

And despite relentless propaganda from the mainstream media about how "good" things are, most Americans are very pessimistic about where things are headed. According to a survey conducted in December by the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, 54 percent of all Americans believe that life in America will "go downhill" as we approach 2050, and only 23 percent believe that life will improve during the next few decades.

Also, Americans seem to have very little faith in the federal government at this point. According to a shocking new poll that was just released, only one out of every 20 Americans believe that the government is functioning well and needs no changes, and 70 percent of all Americans do not have confidence that the government will "make progress on the important problems and issues facing the country in 2014."

If you are waiting for our politicians to fix everything and save the day, you can quit holding your breath. They are way too busy having fun and raising money for their next campaigns.

For example, despite the fact that our country is falling apart all around us, Barack Obama just took an extended holiday vacation out in Hawaii and played his 160th round of golf since taking office.

Our "leaders" are not going to rescue us from what is coming. That is why it is imperative to get prepared for the coming storm while you still can.

Time is running out.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; colonel; homeless; indigenousliving; iraq; livingindigenously; robertfreniere; stanleymcchrystal; veteran
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1 posted on 01/06/2014 1:49:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

As a E5 that got out early I have had two O5’s work for me, several O6s apply for jobs and a retired 1 star general who wanted to be a lobbyist for me.

I think they work better with big companies.


2 posted on 01/06/2014 1:50:51 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This was posted earlier. It’s hard to believe that with his good military pension, that he can’t find a place to live, plus pay all of his outstanding debts, alimony, help his kids with college, etc.

Alternately, if he can’t do it all, maybe he should not be paying for his kids college? There are student loans, and there are part time jobs which his kids could use to help pay for school. If the alternative is the old man being homeless, it seems a no brainer that he not pay for his kids college any longer.


3 posted on 01/06/2014 1:52:15 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t a 30 year career give a 75% retirement?

For an O-6 that’s around $7500/month.


4 posted on 01/06/2014 1:52:51 PM PST by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind

Another thread on this this morning.
Consensus seemed to be that 2 former spouses bleeding the pension and some expensive offspring schooling were the main causes of his plight.


5 posted on 01/06/2014 1:53:17 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Umm, was his military retirement cut-off for some reason? Because I could live quite nicely on O-6 pay in any but the most expensive cities. Or am I missing something here? As for finding him a job, I will do so if someone could contact him and send him my way. I’ve lost count of how many veterans I’ve assisted back when I was a vet rep at the state unemployment office.


6 posted on 01/06/2014 1:53:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh what can you do with a general when a general stops being a general....white Christmas


7 posted on 01/06/2014 1:54:05 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is what happens when you let the government take care of all your needs for a lifetime. Apparently doesn’t matter if you live in public housing or on base. I have seen plenty of retired military studs loose their bearings when the stripes and gold come off. It is surprising to see how many relatively young healthy guys are dead 6 months after retirement.


8 posted on 01/06/2014 1:54:09 PM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gotta call a BS flag on this Colonel. After a 30 year service record (as an O6 this is his mandatory retirement mark if he did not make his first star) he would be pulling in $6,900 +/- before taxes. Unless his van is fully outfitted with a hot tub and some serious rims, he is fibbin’ to someone.


9 posted on 01/06/2014 1:56:05 PM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Sarasota, Fl. newspaper many years ago did a study of the homeless. They hired a private detective. The results were so stunning and not what they expected I was surprised they published them. Many of the homeless had an equivalent income of $30,000 considering they didn’t pay taxes. When the detective found many had bank accounts and retirement pay they interviewed them. One was a retired officer. He just didn’t own a house and was perfectly happy on the street. Many of them simply rented motel rooms when the weather got bad.

For those people, living on the street and panhandling was simply a lifestyle. I’d be surprised if a guy who made decent money and had a military retirement couldn’t live under cover if he wanted to. Something is missing from this story.


10 posted on 01/06/2014 1:56:37 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: driftdiver

An O5 with 30yrs should have a $50,000 retirement.

He could move to the midwest and live VERY well for the rest of his life.


11 posted on 01/06/2014 1:57:22 PM PST by JimBianchi11 (The 2A is the cornerstone of our free society. Those that don't support it, oppose it.)
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To: glorgau

That’s what I don’t understand. Even if he retired earlier than expected, he would still pull in a pension than most people have incomes. There is no reason he should be homeless, unless gambled it all away or something


12 posted on 01/06/2014 1:58:01 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SeekAndFind
A friend of mine had a daughter who was a lawyer and couldn't find a job after 2 years of looking.

I suggested her daughter put together a brief letter stating some of the services she could provide and her experience and then offer herself as an independent contractor to local law firms at a low initial fee.

She got work at the second firm she talked to and after six months they hired her full time.

Moral of this story...take initiative and create your own job.

13 posted on 01/06/2014 1:59:08 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: rjsimmon
'Spots are hard to come by. Freniere, like many of his fellow down-on-their-luck veterans, does not match any hat-in-hand Hollywood image of homelessness. He receives an annual pension from the military of more than $40,000.

His struggle to find a job after retiring from the Air Force collided with the end of his marriage nearly two years ago. Unable to return to the home he shared with his estranged wife, and faced with expenses including bills for two sons in college and debts that mounted when he maintained a nicer lifestyle, he took up a nomadic existence.'

Bills. Bills. Not how much ya make, but how much ya saved. Lots of people are a divorce away from the street.

14 posted on 01/06/2014 1:59:57 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: JimBianchi11

That was my thought as well.


15 posted on 01/06/2014 2:00:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Also factors for the homeless, alcohol/drugs and/or bipolar disorder (and the occasional schizophrenia).


16 posted on 01/06/2014 2:00:57 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Obama Utopian Hope and Change Miracle is working!

Robert F. is a perfect target for Obamanation because Robert F. is:
* Well educated,
* Vast Military experience,
* And older than Barry Soetoro.


17 posted on 01/06/2014 2:00:58 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I had a retired air force colonel who worked for me for years. He was the least productive member of the team by a considerable margin.


18 posted on 01/06/2014 2:02:24 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: nascarnation

I think I’d drive up to the kids’ dorm(s) and publically embarass them and announce .... “no”


19 posted on 01/06/2014 2:03:34 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conjecture on the other thread was that the two former spouses were getting a good portion of the pension.


20 posted on 01/06/2014 2:05:13 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Base pay for an O6 with over 28 yrs. of service, is over $10,000 per month.

The good colonel didn’t save, and doesn’t get any retirement benefits?

I think not, so question the premise of the entire story.

I’m a vet, I respect our vets, and want the best for them. But I tend to be skeptical about using them in ways that lack credibility.


21 posted on 01/06/2014 2:05:21 PM PST by truth_seeker (Nissan)
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To: RoosterRedux
Moral of this story...take initiative and create your own job.

Excellent. 95% of people can't grasp this simple step. I have been telling my teenage kids this for several years now.

22 posted on 01/06/2014 2:06:54 PM PST by PGR88
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To: nascarnation

I was serious, I will find him a job if he’s able to get me his resume.


23 posted on 01/06/2014 2:08:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

it seems a no brainer that he not pay....If he can’t keep his head above water with his pension, you are correct, he is a no brainer.


24 posted on 01/06/2014 2:08:52 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: JimBianchi11

He’d do fine here in DFW.


25 posted on 01/06/2014 2:10:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: from occupied ga

No kidding. The defense outfit I work for is notorious for hiring retired Colonels. These guys think they’re going to bring in all this business. Unfortunately, all their buddies have also retired, and the Major they kept as their coffee bitch all those years is now in charge and hates them.

Only met two that were worth a damn, and both because of their technical abilities.


26 posted on 01/06/2014 2:10:18 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SeekAndFind
Well at least the van isn't down by the river.


27 posted on 01/06/2014 2:10:37 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SeekAndFind

He had a 30 year military career and is living out of a Van? Um.... What’s he doing with his Pension money?


28 posted on 01/06/2014 2:10:45 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve known some retired military officers who went to work for Walmart, with the plan being to retire from Walmart, and have their military pension too.


29 posted on 01/06/2014 2:11:28 PM PST by pallis
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To: knarf

Paying for the kids’ education may have been ordered by the divorce judge. That happened to a cousin of mine. Between alimony to a cheating ex-wife, child support, and tuition, he had nothing left to live on. The order was based on his previous well-paying jobs, and was not changed even though he couldn’t get another such job. He ended up in one room with nothing but a bed and chair.

However his fury over the injustice made him reinvent himself, and today, a dozen years later, he’s rich and happy. So there is some justice.


30 posted on 01/06/2014 2:19:15 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: SeekAndFind
..and of course; the Washington Establishment is rubbing it's hands
in glee over these accounts, it means more power over its subjects.
..it's gotten to the point, where the citizenry, must carry
"the Knock-out game" to polls b/c they deserve it.

31 posted on 01/06/2014 2:24:10 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: HamiltonJay

Google military pension ex-spouse and you may see where his pension money is going.


32 posted on 01/06/2014 2:31:13 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: SeekAndFind

a leader of men should have no problem being a manager for any business.

of course, i would suggest gathering the right people and starting his own business


33 posted on 01/06/2014 2:31:57 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind

A 30 year military career and an officer at that…. his retirement pay is better than mine ever will be


34 posted on 01/06/2014 2:32:06 PM PST by Nifster
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To: RoosterRedux

and she wasn’t 50plus tears old….

I agree with you but it is not like it used to be. The age you are (or are perceived to be) makes a HUGE difference


35 posted on 01/06/2014 2:35:10 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s a story that just doesn’t really add up.


36 posted on 01/06/2014 2:35:53 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: PGR88; RoosterRedux
Moral of this story...take initiative and create your own job.

I'll second that. The colonel, as others have pointed out, must have some other problems than just employment to deal with, since he is eligible for a significant pension. But for healthy people who simply can't get a job it is always possible to find some way to create your own job. Being able to do so is a vital skill, and every young person should learn it.

Needless to say government regulations weigh down on small scale entrepreneurs, but it is still possible to generate your own income without having a "job".

37 posted on 01/06/2014 2:38:02 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: SeekAndFind

Charley, a new retiree greeter at Wal-Mart, just couldn’t seem to get to work on time.

Every day he was 5, 10, 15 minutes late. But he was a good worker, really tidy, clean-shaven,

sharp minded and a real credit to the company and obviously demonstrating their

“Older Person Friendly” policies.

One day the boss called him into the office for a talk. “Charley, I have to tell you, I like your work ethic, you do a bang up job, but your being late so often is quite bothersome.”

“Yes, I know boss, and I am working on it.”

‘’Well good, you are a team player. That’s what I like to hear. It’s odd though you’re coming in late. I know you’re retired from the Armed Forces. What did they say if you came in late there?”

“They said, ‘Good morning General, can I get you coffee, sir?’’’


38 posted on 01/06/2014 2:38:30 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: ottbmare

This officer is dealing with three high ticket $$$ issues that pension can’t support & himself as well!


39 posted on 01/06/2014 2:42:18 PM PST by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Despite what the Obama administration and the mainstream media are telling you, the truth is that there has been no employment recovery in this country... This just shows how badly the private sector in the United States is failing... As I have written about previously, a lot of unemployed Americans are going to lose their last lifeline now that their extended unemployment benefits are being cut off. In fact, it is being projected that a total of 5 million unemployed Americans will lose their benefits by the end of 2014. Many of those unemployed workers will end up losing everything... Having already raided his retirement savings, Botta thinks he’ll need to take three or four part-time jobs, working 60 to 70 hours a week just to get by without the unemployment checks. “I don’t know how people make it on minimum wage,” says Botta...
The message? We need to raise the minimum wage and extend fed unenjoyment bennies. Thanks SeekAndFind.
40 posted on 01/06/2014 2:48:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SeekAndFind

The media needs to get their story straight. Are jobs improving under Obama or aren’t they?


41 posted on 01/06/2014 2:54:03 PM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Smell testing...what is the retirement pay for a full colonel after 30 years? I don’t know, but I suspect I could live pretty well on it. Is sleeping in a van a CHOICE?

Of course the bottom line of the article is to show how poorly the economy is doing, but it does raise questions.


42 posted on 01/06/2014 3:19:52 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ottbmare
Never thought of it that way ...

I think I would STILL stop paying

It would take at least one paycheck before they caught me and I know I could do a lot with 6 or 7 K

Let 'em chase me.

43 posted on 01/06/2014 3:22:55 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: mason-dixon

He may not have a choice.


44 posted on 01/06/2014 3:50:34 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: JimRed

Read the article and the other responses on the thread. His pension is being eaten up by legal obligations to his ex and kids.


45 posted on 01/06/2014 3:55:43 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: driftdiver

I am a retired Colonel. I hired a retired Sergeant First Class who had worked for me and made him go finish his degree. He now makes three times what I make, has his own company, and is the better man.

The big problem with Colonels and Generals is that many do not want to do the real work that you have to do in the business world.


46 posted on 01/06/2014 4:02:36 PM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316

I’ve known several and do see some of that. One was an Army O6 who simply could not deal with people. If he couldn’t order his way out of it he simply could not deal with it.

A couple others were excellent leaders but had forgotten how to do any real work. A few were simply outstanding.

Not too much different than the enlisted.


47 posted on 01/06/2014 4:07:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ottbmare

Read the article????

heretic!


48 posted on 01/06/2014 4:12:06 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Nifster
Actually, she was 48. The firms that thought of using her as an independent contractor didn't care about her age because they weren't employing her...just using her as an independent contractor.

I am 65 and have spoken with several firms about the same and they like that I am older. They get the work and the experience but they don't take a risk re: employment.

49 posted on 01/06/2014 4:30:57 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Theoria

“Bills. Bills.”

Yes, but he could go bankrupt; and if my parent were homeless i’d do something about it- I wouldn’t just expect them to keep paying for my school.

still,it is scary this guy can’t find a job.

We may be missing something here, substance abuse or something like that.

still, these stories terrify me, i’m middle aged, looking for work, and not having much luck.


50 posted on 01/06/2014 4:36:32 PM PST by jocon307
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