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Dell Inspiron 11.6 vs Lenovo IdeaPad W210 (Windows 8)
January 8, 2014 | This Just In

Posted on 01/09/2014 8:37:33 PM PST by This Just In

Good evening,

I'm seeking your opinion/advice on these two laptops. If given the choice which would you choose and why?

Our child has been given a gift: a Dell 11.6, but we may be able to exchange it for the Lenovo. I'm just wondering whether or not it would be worth the exchange. I'm inclined to think it is, but trading one for the other presents a little bit of a challenge. We must travel out of state in order to exchange the laptop. I'm wondering if it would be worth the wait and travel.

Thank you, as always, for your time and comments.

TJI


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KEYWORDS: dell; ideapad; laptops; lenovo; notebooks; windows7; windows8
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1 posted on 01/09/2014 8:37:33 PM PST by This Just In
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Lenovo Ideapad is what I have but I liked it less once I learned it was from China, still it is pretty good, know nothing about a Dell


2 posted on 01/09/2014 8:44:01 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Are Dell laptops made in China? I know the headquarters in located in Texas.


3 posted on 01/09/2014 8:46:43 PM PST by This Just In
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I think they are put together in the US, but wouldn’t swear to it


4 posted on 01/09/2014 8:47:59 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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I bought a notebook with Windows 8. Upgraded to Win 8.1. Spent another $118 and upgraded again to Windows 7. Very happy now.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 8:48:33 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: yldstrk

Thanks


6 posted on 01/09/2014 8:48:47 PM PST by This Just In
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To: NautiNurse

We haven’t received the laptop. It’s in the mail, but I’m hoping it’s a 8.1.


7 posted on 01/09/2014 8:49:58 PM PST by This Just In
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To: yldstrk

Do you like your Lenovo? Have you owned any other? Dell? HP?, etc.


8 posted on 01/09/2014 8:51:15 PM PST by This Just In
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My $.02 worth, my bride of 36 yrs enjoys a Lenovo tablet. She’s online with a straight talk wireless hot spot.

The Loenovo tablet is well built, and appears durable. Time will tell. I’ve had good reports from family members on the the quality of the Lenovo products.


9 posted on 01/09/2014 8:52:56 PM PST by theneanderthal
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Thanks ,theneanderthal. I appreciate it.


10 posted on 01/09/2014 8:54:38 PM PST by This Just In
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To: theneanderthal

Dell. Lenovo is IBM’s Chinese leftover.


11 posted on 01/09/2014 8:54:55 PM PST by Fungi
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To: This Just In

I have an IdeaPad — It’s been really good so far, no complaints.
If it’s a 3 or 4 hour trip [or less], I’d say the expense is probably worth it. (I really don’t like to travel, so consider that.)


12 posted on 01/09/2014 8:57:07 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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You’re a really Fun-gi. :^) Thanks for the comment, Fungi. That’s pretty interesting.


13 posted on 01/09/2014 8:57:29 PM PST by This Just In
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To: OneWingedShark

Thanks, OneWinged Shark.


14 posted on 01/09/2014 8:58:46 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In
I bought a Dell Laptop with windows 8 last Spring and while windows 8 is a real pain to get use to after much better windows 7, but I have found its been pretty reliable.

It came with McAfee, office and a three year extended warranty and I had no disks to load as the basic SW comes on the hard drive. Setup was VERY easy.

Windows 8 is frustrating though.

15 posted on 01/09/2014 8:59:57 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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I posted a thread a while back in search of comments regarding Windows 8 and other OS. I’ve come to the conclusion that ppl prefer anything but W8. This is a gift, so we had no say in the choices. Unless we take the Dell in and exchange it, but from what I’ve seen, we’d have to use the same OS regardless.


16 posted on 01/09/2014 9:05:22 PM PST by This Just In
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FWIW, I’ve owned two Lenovo desktop machines and a Lenovo laptop. All have been super stable and I’ve never had any hardware issues. It just works.

Lenovo also has USA based tech support and their support folks don’t have those stupid menus and decision tables they have to use.

IMHO, Lenovo.


17 posted on 01/09/2014 9:07:10 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: upchuck

Thanks, upchunk


18 posted on 01/09/2014 9:11:43 PM PST by This Just In
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RE :”I posted a thread a while back in search of comments regarding Windows 8 and other OS. I’ve come to the conclusion that ppl prefer anything but W8. This is a gift, so we had no say in the choices. Unless we take the Dell in and exchange it, but from what I’ve seen, we’d have to use the same OS regardless.”

I am using windows 8 to post this and its usable, just a real pain to get used to.

They tried to make it do stupid stuff to be like an touch screen Ipad.

Windows 7 was a great replacement for Vista. I dont know why they screw up every other major version.

But I liked the deal that Dell gave me and all the key SW already on it.

19 posted on 01/09/2014 9:12:51 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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I have to check out for a while, but i’ll visit later. Thank you to everyone who has and will contribute to this thread.


20 posted on 01/09/2014 9:13:18 PM PST by This Just In
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To: sickoflibs

I’m posting from an ancient Dell Latitude D610 with issues.

Who really knows? It’s a crap shoot on the hardware reliability.

Software is an issue! Support for Windows XP is ending in April. There are numerous questions as regards purchasing a new puter.

Should I take this dinosaur to Linux? Pitch it into the recycle bin?


21 posted on 01/09/2014 9:14:25 PM PST by theneanderthal
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks, sickoflibs. Perhaps I’ll hit you up for some advice once we get the laptop running.


22 posted on 01/09/2014 9:14:44 PM PST by This Just In
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To: theneanderthal
RE :”I’m posting from an ancient Dell Latitude D610 with issues.
Who really knows? It’s a crap shoot on the hardware reliability.
Software is an issue! Support for Windows XP is ending in April. There are numerous questions as regards purchasing a new puter.”

I had a work owned D610 with XP for ~ 7 years and it finally burned up last spring too. But work said they would stop supporting XPs anyway.

I really got use to XP but windows 7 had many improvements to it.

When I buy a home computer I need a laptop and I always try to get a fast CPU with lots of memory and disk space so it lasts.

Also, buy a docking adapter for your XP hard drive so you can use it without your old computer with your new one.,

23 posted on 01/09/2014 9:22:16 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: This Just In; theneanderthal

One thing really cool about windows 7 and 8:

They both come with built in digital audio recorders meaning you can easily start and end recordings of everything that (before it) comes out of your headset adapter or speakers into (digital) wma files to replay.

So if you listen to online radio like pandora, shoutcast, AOL, etc radio you can easily record it for later listening.

All built in,

XP didnt have that.


24 posted on 01/09/2014 9:29:36 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: theneanderthal

That depends on what you want to do with the computer. If you just want to go online, check email and use Free Republic or OpenOffice then Linux would be a good choice. But what kind of Linux?

If you like playing games, you might not want Linux.

BTW: Just because support is ending doesn’t mean the computer becomes useless immediately.

Just a quick look... does it really have only 512mb of RAM?


25 posted on 01/09/2014 9:32:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: theneanderthal

don’t just throw it away though


26 posted on 01/09/2014 9:33:37 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: This Just In

I tried with Google to find the Ideapad that you mentioned and could not. At Lenovo, however, they do show some other models in the $400 ballpark, including another Ideapad on sale.

Windows 8 in 64 bit is the big news for both of these. In principle, this enables better performance out of big-crunch applications like games. It’s also, unfortunately, a technical challenge if you want to install a version of Linux to coexist with Windows or take its place. A feature which Microsoft at least says is meant to virusproof hardware that runs 64 bit Windows, makes it difficult or impossible to install the Linux.

Check what processor you get with the Ideapad you have in mind. Google the processor number and you will find out its characteristics. An i7 in a Lenovo is better than the Dell’s Celeron but I don’t know if you get the i7 with the model you mentioned, which I could not find on Lenovo’s website. If that’s a clearance model the support on it might be limited.


27 posted on 01/09/2014 9:38:10 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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I got a Dell Inspiron 17R and a Venue 8 pad after Thanksgiving. Waited in the box a couple of weeks before I set it up. Within a week the Inspiron had to have its hard disk replaced. The Venue8 went out a week later when it would no longer power up or take a charge. They are replacing it but not my data.

I have a Dell at work but no more purchasing of Dell for me


28 posted on 01/09/2014 9:44:54 PM PST by marsh2
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It’s in the mail, but I’m hoping it’s a 8.1

There isn't much difference between 8 and 8.1. There are improvements, like booting to the desktop, but there is still no Start menu - and that means that you still need to download ClassicShell or an equivalent... and then the "boot to desktop" does not matter because those utilities do that for you.

Unless you like Win8 GUI, I would recommend installing Win7. Note also that some software does not work on Win8. Primarily that applies to industrial software, but you may find problems with anything that is not released in 2013. I have one laptop with Win8, and it will be downgraded to Win7 because it is unusable for my needs. Win8 is a release to skip. Perhaps Win9 will merge Win7 GUI and Win8 kernel improvements, with Metro being an installable option that stays out of your way unless you need it.

Oh, BTW, it's a pain to disable touch. I had to do it on a new laptop that was bought by someone else for business use. Touch on a laptop is confusing at best, and in many cases dangerous to your work. To disable touch you have to find and disable the driver that feeds touch events into the kernel.

29 posted on 01/09/2014 11:08:52 PM PST by Greysard
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Dell .

BTW - Michael Dell is a GOP supporter .


30 posted on 01/10/2014 12:59:00 AM PST by sushiman
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To: This Just In

I used a computer first in 1978 and my boyfriend had a “laptop” bigger than carry on luggage. I try to keep up with what the current decent models are, but I’m not an expert. Initially I would have said to go with the Dell, all things considered, since the tech advances so quickly and laptops tend to be replaced within a year or so, and having to make the trip. Having read Marsh2’s reply, I’d go with the Lenovo. I clocked 14 hours of phone hell with an HP under warranty and if someone here is reporting a problem, it’s not worth the risk and I’ve heard pretty much only good things about Lenovos over the years. I bought my daughter a laptop for Christmas from TigerDirect with Windows 7. No one in our house will touch an 8. I’ve used many versions of Linux since 2000 and have been frustrated with all of them as they developed so I won’t use it, but that’s only because I have used so many and just got tired of it. There are good distros now though. It just lost it’s new car shine for me. I want ‘no brainer’ Windows. I’m too old any more and all I do is read FR and game.


31 posted on 01/10/2014 1:24:09 AM PST by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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I recently got my Son a Lenovo Idea Pad Z585AMGRTXA, upgraded to 8G RAM, 500G 7200 HD, Win 8.1.
It has an AMD processor 2.3G and it rocks. Seriously good laptop.

Lenovo bought out HP's laptop business and make a darn fine product.
Yes, its made in China. Not really a big deal, IMO.
Good quality, good price and it does everything he needs. He's a recent high school graduate.
32 posted on 01/10/2014 3:44:51 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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I buy a new PC about every two years. Just bought a Lenovo to replace a Dell. The only difference I can tell is that the Lenovo is a little noisier.


33 posted on 01/10/2014 3:47:37 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: Tainan

Lenovo (Chicoms) purchased the IBM PC business.


34 posted on 01/10/2014 4:27:51 AM PST by bytesmith
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I’d go with the Dell -it’s much easier to work on.


35 posted on 01/10/2014 4:43:15 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: sickoflibs; This Just In

You can make W/8.1 like XP/W/7 with the free Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/), without losing access to the extras W/8 offers. Once installed, R. clk. on the Start buttn and choose Settings and customize it as uyou like.

See a pic. of mine here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3109356/posts?page=124#124.

I missed the Quicklaunch bar, so i added it. The location is C:\Users\enterusernamehere\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch

Enter your user name where i put enterusernamehere. R. clk. on the Taskbar, point to Toolbars and New... and navigate to or paste the above text in the window.

It is also a good idea to go to C:\Users\enterusernamehere\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo then go up one level and R clk, on the Send to folder and create a shortcut, then drag it into the Send to folder. Now you can send any shortcut you want to that folder via right click.

Then go to the Quick Launch folder (paste the address into the Run command: Windows key and R), go up a level; create a shortcut and then r. clk >Send to>Send to -shortcut. Now you can add whatever shortcuts you want to it.

And rather than use W/8 libraries, etc, I make my own folders on a different partition or drive.

Also hand commands you can paste into the Run command:

C:\Windows\System32\appwiz.cpl (Uninstall progs)

C:\Windows\System32\rstrui.exe (system restore)

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wuapp.exe (Windows update)

powercfg.cpl

devmgmt.msc (device mgmt)

eventvwr.msc (event viewer)

services.msc

msconfig


36 posted on 01/10/2014 5:50:37 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: This Just In

It would be helpful if you provided links to the sellers to compare prices, but what i found was the Lenovo specs are:

Windows 8
Technical details:
3rd Gen Intel® i5 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Max Turbo Frequency 2.7 GHz;
Chipset Intel HM76;
27” display;
6GB memory; 1TB hard drive
NVIDIA GeForce 620M 2GB
Special features: Touch screen; built-in wireless networking; wireless keyboard and mouse; voice recognition; webcam
Note: DVD/CD drive not included
1,299.99 at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883265528
See reviews (4 eggs)

Dell Inspiron 11.6 is too ambiguous to know what it exactly is, but a Dell Black 11.6” Inspiron 11z i11z-4698OBK Laptop PC, was $348.00 at Walmart, but is a much lower class laptop;

Intel Celeron 743 processor- 1.2GHz, 1MB cache

160GB SATA hard drive

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Black-11.6-Inspiron-11z-i11z-4698OBK-Laptop-PC-with-Intel-Celeron-743-Processor-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-bit/15779810#Specifications


37 posted on 01/10/2014 6:06:06 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Greysard

See below: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3110216/posts?page=36#36


38 posted on 01/10/2014 6:08:24 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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We own a company that provides IT support for small and medium sized businesses. I always carry a Dell Latitude laptop because they have proven so reliable. My partner finally gave up his attachment to Toshibas because he was buying two laptops for every one of mine.

Lately Lenovo has developed a good reputation for some parts of their product line, i.e., the traditional laptops are garnering good reviews by users along the lines of what it was when it was IBM. I haven’t seen anything either good or bad about the IdeaPad.

My experience with the newer “tablet/combo” technology is that they are not nearly as robust as laptops and ultra-books. The technology is too new. All of my customers who have invested in this technology have had some issue. This is typical with new technology.

The Inspirion is Dell’s consumer laptop designed for home use and not quite as expensive as the business models.

A note on hard drives. Last year there was heavy flooding in Thailand that took out most of the hard drive manufacturing facilities in the world. Once the immediate stock of “good” hard drives was used up, then what was/is on the market could be classified as “B” grade. There is still a lot of that in the pipeline, because it was many weeks before they could even go in and start a clean up and repair of the manufacturing facilities. There are still certain types of hard drives that are back ordered and delay shipment of your computer.

Also hard drive replacements in laptops are fairly common. Especially if the laptop does NOT have the “shock resistant” technology. A laptop is subject to a lot of “drop” stress even if it is not actually bounced off the floor.

I stick to Dell for my business clients for the simple reason that they have a robust support structure in the area in which we live and their online support and phone call support is much easier to navigate than for other brands.

I am also a Lenovo vendor, they simply do not have the purchase and after purchase support of Dell in this part of the south.

Not sure this is helpful. For the type of device you are talking about, I’d say it is a matter of personal preference and which vendor has the most local support options for you.


39 posted on 01/10/2014 6:14:17 AM PST by Roses0508
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I’ve been a Dell OEM VAR for 15 years and like their products and their company. Their Latitudes are reliable for the most part. Some early releases of models and upgrades can have issues, but so does every company out there. Dell does everything it can to stay American...and remain competitive.


40 posted on 01/10/2014 6:18:33 AM PST by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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Not sure if this will help you as I have old IBM Thinkpads.
I think it was eight years ago I bought the R51e (a Lenovo). It is a work horse and has survived much physical abuse. It has been in extremely dusty situations when my house was being renovated. Thinking it was going to bite the dust due to the abuse, I bought a back up Thinkpad, a Lenovo T60 about 5 years ago. When Irene hit, the area was filled with mud dust everywhere. There was no escaping it. It was on everything. I’m still using the R51e and have no problems whatsoever with it. The T60 I started using last summer just so it wouldn’t feel neglected. Both work fantastic.

For durability, I would recommend Lenovo. It has survived through a lot of abuse.


41 posted on 01/10/2014 6:39:34 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: daniel1212; This Just In
Thanks, I will try it

Classic Shell main page

42 posted on 01/10/2014 7:30:07 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: bytesmith
Thanks for the correction.
Lenovo did buy-out IBM PC business in 2005. The deal was for US1.7 billion(2005). Under the deal, IBM will took an 18.9 percent stake in Lenovo. Lenovo paid US$1.25 billion for the IBM PC unit and assume debt, which will bring the total cost to US$1.75 billion. Lenovo paid roughly US$650 million in cash and US$600 million in securities.
Lenovo and Dell are both making offers for the remains of HP.

On ownership:(from WikiWacki)
Ownership
As of 1 October 2011, 58% of Lenovo stock was held by the general public, 34% by Legend Holdings Limited, and 8% by other entities. The Chinese Academy of Sciences owns 36% of Legend Holdings.[77]
On 4 September 2009, Oceanwide Holdings Group, a private investment firm based in Beijing, bought 29% of Legend Holdings, the parent company of Lenovo, for 2.76 billion yuan.[78] Responding to claims that Lenovo is a state owned enterprise CEO Yang Yuanqing said: "Our company is a 100% market oriented company. Some people have said we are a state owned enterprise. It's 100% not true. In 1984 the Chinese Academy of Sciences only invested $25,000 in our company. The purpose of the Chinese Academy of Sciences to invest in this company was that they wanted to commercialize their research results. The Chinese Academy of Sciences is a pure research entity in China, owned by the government. From this point, you could say we're different from state-owned enterprises. Secondly, after this investment, this company is run totally by the founders and management team. The government has never been involved in our daily operation, in important decisions, strategic direction, nomination of the CEO and top executives and financial management. Everything is done by our management team."[79]
Yang dramatically increased his ownership stake in by acquiring 797 million shares in 2011. As of June 2011, Yang owned an 8 percent stake in Lenovo. He previously owned only 70 million shares. In a statement, Yang said, "While the transaction is a personal financial matter, I want to be very clear that my decision to make this investment is based on my strong belief in the company's very bright future. Our culture is built on commitment and ownership – we do what we say, and we own what we do. My decision to increase my holdings represents my steadfast belief in these principles."[80] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Who owns what?...its a guessing game in the PRC.

43 posted on 01/10/2014 8:15:08 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: daniel1212; This Just In

I just installed it and I am playing with it.

Thanks again,

Great find!


44 posted on 01/10/2014 9:22:04 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: daniel1212; Slump Tester; sickoflibs

Our child will be using the Dell primarily for college. Will this model be sufficient?

Thank you for all of your help. I will be revisiting this thread once the laptop arrives.

TJI


45 posted on 01/10/2014 11:14:55 PM PST by This Just In
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; Roses0508; ThomasMore; AdaGray; bytesmith; All

I would like to thank everyone for lending your helpful comments. I will be returning to this thread once the laptop is delivered.

Sincerely,
TJI


46 posted on 01/10/2014 11:17:47 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In; daniel1212; Slump Tester
I installed this app that dan suggested,
It makes the MS windows 8 user interface look more like past versions of MS OS.

Classic Shell main page

I am using it now to post this and its not a bad computer at all.

47 posted on 01/10/2014 11:22:44 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: This Just In; daniel1212; Slump Tester

I have always found Dells very reliable,


48 posted on 01/10/2014 11:24:47 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: This Just In; daniel1212; Slump Tester
The Dell computer windows 8 I bought last ~ April and that I using right now at home is a Inspiron 17R 5721.'

It came with McAfee and MS office already on it with a three year service support warranty.

You turn it on and it walks you through a setup procedure.

So far it works pretty good but dealing with windows 8 takes some work.

49 posted on 01/11/2014 12:25:51 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks, sickoflibs. I visited that link briefly, and will revisit at a later date.


50 posted on 01/11/2014 1:27:24 AM PST by This Just In
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