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Was Justice Robertsí ObamaCare ruling a curse for Republicans, or a blessing?
Coach is Right ^ | 1/11/14 | Doug Book

Posted on 01/11/2014 9:03:57 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

When Chief Justice John Roberts sided with the Supreme Court’s Marxist bloc in ruling the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate constitutional, stunned conservatives immediately accused him of committing an “act of judicial cowardice.” “It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices,” wrote the supremely hypocritical Roberts as he shattered one of the first rules of judicial restraint by rewriting sections of ObamaCare from the bench. Although he refused to “protect” the people from a wanton abuse of power, he was more than willing to protect DC lawmakers from the consequences of passing unconstitutional legislation.

But did Roberts manufacture his creative penalty-is-really-a-tax revision of ObamaCare for the purpose of bailing out the lawmakers who wrote the Act? Or was it actually his intention to help destroy them!

American Thinker contributor Bill Dunne believes that in his ObamaCare ruling, the chief justice set a “diabolical trap” designed to...

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; aca; johnroberts; judicialactivism; liberalagenda; obamacare; obamacaretax; supremecourt; zerocare
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1 posted on 01/11/2014 9:03:57 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

No, Roberts is a pure Traitor.


2 posted on 01/11/2014 9:05:40 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Oldpuppymax

Roberts was told to rule in favor of Odinga, or they’d go after his kids.

That’s all there is, or was, to his decision. That’s the Chicago Way.


3 posted on 01/11/2014 9:06:58 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Not buying it.

It may be true that Obamacare is the final straw for the American people but it is too far of a stretch to claim Roberts planned this outcome. You could just as easily say the same about Pelosi.

4 posted on 01/11/2014 9:07:04 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Oldpuppymax

This was my thinking, that Robert’s had set an elaborate long-term trap that would spring in the 2014 elections. Yes there was plenty of pain in between, but the actual Democrats who caused this needed to feel that pain.

My mother always said, “You be careful what you wish for as you might just get it.’ That’s what happened to the Democrats.


5 posted on 01/11/2014 9:07:05 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Oldpuppymax

I get tired of people saying this tvrd of a ruling is chocolate pudding.


6 posted on 01/11/2014 9:08:40 AM PST by fso301
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To: Oldpuppymax

I don’t know if it was a curse to Republicans in the long run, but it was a curse for the American people.


7 posted on 01/11/2014 9:08:50 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Gen.Blather

He still should have voted constitutionally, that is their supreme task..period. To leave in place a job killing law in order to increase the pain so as to help us in the coming elections is not his job...period..and is evil because many people are being hurt badly.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 9:10:30 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Oldpuppymax

Roberts either sold out or was deeply threatened, plain and simple. He was not some master chess player. IMHO.


9 posted on 01/11/2014 9:12:23 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Judge Roberts met with Obama ex parte while
he was a litigant before him.

Later, the black robe gleefully complied
in the destruction of the Constitution, Law, and
what once was, private medical care.


10 posted on 01/11/2014 9:12:30 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Oldpuppymax

This may be an interesting posit 10 years from now, but Obamacare is still the law of the land and the democrats have not paid a price for it yet.


11 posted on 01/11/2014 9:12:34 AM PST by jimmygrace
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To: Oldpuppymax
Just "maybe" the writer has a point.

Just "maybe," but if his theory is correct, it may just be another instance of the Hand of Divine Providence giving American citizens a chance to choose liberty instead of slavery to government.

12 posted on 01/11/2014 9:13:53 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Paladin2

-— No, Roberts is a pure Traitor. -—

I agree. That permanent sh-—eating grin made me wonder.


13 posted on 01/11/2014 9:15:55 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Act of judicial cowardice indeed another reason for term limits in the SC.
Ego grows with power.


14 posted on 01/11/2014 9:16:26 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I have always felt that the Dems have something on Roberts. Was it the adoption of the Irish girls? Is he Gay and is he using the girls as his beard?


15 posted on 01/11/2014 9:18:27 AM PST by sleepwalker (this place for rent)
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To: Oldpuppymax

A diabolical trap?

Hardly.

No, someone, somehow, with something, got to Roberts.

Even a couple of his colleagues on the Court claimed he intended to vote against Obamacare — up until nearly the last moment.

His pretzeled excuse made little sense, legally or rationally. It will go down in history as one of the most convoluted rationales ever for affirming a law.


16 posted on 01/11/2014 9:19:16 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Oldpuppymax

Curse for the country!


17 posted on 01/11/2014 9:20:45 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If Roberts had made the correct ruling, WE WOULDN’T BE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS OBAMACARE BULL**** TODAY!


18 posted on 01/11/2014 9:20:53 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you like your ObamaCare, you can keep your ObamaCare. I'll pass. PERIOD!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Stop with the Roberts verdict...4 other justices ruled the same way.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 9:21:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldpuppymax

A rube goldberg ruling on a rube goldberg law. Only Justice Roberts really knows what he was thinking.


20 posted on 01/11/2014 9:21:49 AM PST by lurk
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To: Oldpuppymax

I don’t buy it for a second but if was proved that was why he ruled he should be impeached.


21 posted on 01/11/2014 9:23:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: Oldpuppymax

Curse. No lipstick on a pig for this one. In the long run, this will be devastating for America and the GOP. I am NOT one of those conservatives that thinks that running on Obamacare is a good thing. People will see it as just another giveaway and vote Dim. Running on Obamacare is a huge mistake.


22 posted on 01/11/2014 9:23:27 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: fso301
But the most important consequence of Roberts’ ruling is the fact that millions of Americans finally understand that “…[ObamaCare] has less to do with insuring the uninsured than with one political party’s lunge for unprecedented power and control over people’s lives.” The utter contempt for individual rights which is the hallmark of DC Democrats has at last been revealed to any interested American.

The sad truth is that a voting majority is no longer interested in anything other than getting as much as they can from the public trough, at least at the national level.

George McGovern, who lost a 49 state landslide in 1972, and Walter Mondale, who repeated the feat in 1984, were both far more constitutionally grounded than the anti-Christ tool in office now.

23 posted on 01/11/2014 9:27:30 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Paladin2

Roberts has been eminently blackmailable since he adopted children illegally. That’s why he was nominated and confirmed as CJ, because everybody knew he could be easily manipulated. He’ll flop the other way if the boss ever changes.


24 posted on 01/11/2014 9:31:04 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Oldpuppymax

No. At this point, even if Obamacare never gets off the ground, it still will have succeeded in destroying our country. Insurance companies will go broke, hospitals will go broke, millions of people will die needlessly, doctors will quit to the point where at least half of them are immigrant doctors brought in because they are cheaper, and on and on.

Maybe the Democrats have succeeded in destroying themselves. But the Republicans at this point are no better. No hope of saving the party, IMHO. And the Tea Party is too disorganized to step in, unless they manage to unite behind a truly capable leader such as Sarah Palin. But the news media may have destroyed that chance.

Roberts did what he was blackmailed to do. If anyone caught Obama in a political trap, it was Obama and his insane leftist pals.


25 posted on 01/11/2014 9:31:12 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Paladin2

Yes he is a traitor and he was also bribed.


26 posted on 01/11/2014 9:32:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: sleepwalker

Me too. His decision was totally in conflict with his record. It had to be a threat to his family rather than him. I think he would have gone public with a threat to his health or life. He knows that the mandate is unconstitutional and he knows that changing the law from the bench is unconstitutional. Any change in the law should have gone back through congress then to the president if it got through congress. I actually fault the lack of republican leadership in both house for that. Time will tell.


27 posted on 01/11/2014 9:32:34 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It was a lie—a fraud on all of us and the greenslip for unbridled gov’t.


28 posted on 01/11/2014 9:32:48 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I guess you have had no first person pain from obamacare... most Americans have and that pain’s source is known by the act’s namesake.


29 posted on 01/11/2014 9:35:22 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I hope it’s the law of unintended consequences and it bites them hard... but as for some master stroke of genius I doubt it.


30 posted on 01/11/2014 9:37:06 AM PST by pithyinme (Oh great 3 more years of crap to wade through....)
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To: pithyinme

I do think by calling it a tax... he did open the door for a lawsuit to challenge it as it did start in the senate.


31 posted on 01/11/2014 9:38:37 AM PST by pithyinme (Oh great 3 more years of crap to wade through....)
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To: pithyinme

He rejected just that argument by the the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons “without comment” just the other day.


32 posted on 01/11/2014 9:51:54 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Oldpuppymax

It was a lie.


33 posted on 01/11/2014 9:52:23 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Oldpuppymax
So was John Roberts a gutless traitor to the American nation and people?

"YES"

(could have been a very short article).

34 posted on 01/11/2014 9:54:07 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Oldpuppymax
I'm not buying it. The blackmail theory is way more probable.
35 posted on 01/11/2014 10:06:16 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Oldpuppymax

Roberts helped reelect Obama. ‘Nuff said.


36 posted on 01/11/2014 10:08:14 AM PST by kabar
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To: FR_addict
I don’t know if it was a curse to Republicans in the long run, but it was a curse for the American people.

What you said.

ObamaCare has now led to a series of lawless steps in which Obama enforces parts of the law that he likes and simply announces the cancellation of parts he doesn't like. That precedent will be followed by a republican, in another loss for the American people, even if it advances a small corner of the republican agenda. The Constitution is now dead, as is the rule of law. We now have the politics of pull, in which FedGov takes from each in accordance with their willingness to follow written law and gives to each in accordance with their inside connections.

37 posted on 01/11/2014 10:10:50 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Roberts said it was the voters' responsibility to put people in Congress who would do what the voters wanted, and he's right. If so many people are against Obamacare, we need to tap into that dissatisfaction with GOOD candidates who are willing to repeal it, no ifs, ands, or buts.

I frankly think that repeal of Obamacare, and the boost to the economy that one act would bring, should be the MOST important issue in 2014. There is a lot of meat for campaign speeches based on how the economy can soar without the limiting chains of government intervention, Obamacare being only the most recent, but the most immediately oppressive.

38 posted on 01/11/2014 10:15:59 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Oldpuppymax

Why all these games? Why all these political machinations in the HOPES of achieving an outcome that will embarrass political rivals? Can we not be straight-forward anymore—point to the Constitution as a basis, a measure to conduct ourselves and keep ourselves in alignment?

I guess that’s just too honest, too proper. Let’s just play games with the foundation of this country. Gosh, I guess it doesn’t matter anyway...


39 posted on 01/11/2014 10:17:05 AM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: SuziQ
we need to tap into that dissatisfaction with GOOD candidates

Few will be good enough for some purists.

40 posted on 01/11/2014 10:17:57 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Sacajaweau
Stop with the Roberts verdict...4 other justices ruled the same way.

The other justices - Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan - are all doctrinaire left wingers. Roberts had a generally conservative voting record.

41 posted on 01/11/2014 10:19:07 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Cyber Liberty

He was blackmailable before he adopted the children. There’s more hard evidence, i.e. paper trail for the adoption.


42 posted on 01/11/2014 10:22:18 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Oldpuppymax

The simple & logical explanation is the correct one. Bill Dunne believes what he wishes to be true, not what is.

Roberts sold us out. Bought and paid for. So much for his country and the Constitution.

Obozo’s people have dirt on (at least) 75% of the Republicans. And they use it very successfully.


43 posted on 01/11/2014 10:29:20 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ladyjane

Doesn’t matter exactly what the string is, what matters is it can be easily pulled. The SCOTUS is therefore hopelessly balanced against us for another generation. I don’t think the country will survive it.


44 posted on 01/11/2014 10:30:49 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Oldpuppymax

Time will tell


45 posted on 01/11/2014 10:41:00 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bigbob; ladyjane
http://ken_ashford.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/couldnt_be_gayer_if_they_were_in_chaps.jpg

John was a popular student while in High School in LaPort, In., captain of the football team and an outstanding wrestler. Obviously he no longer plays football but I'm guessing that he still wrestles. Here he is shown enjoying an elaborate meal with his best and closest friends. His recent professional pictures show his constant smile but never a toothy grin. Is it a possible signal to all with special interests that he is an accomplished sexual performer.

 I had read a separate follow-up on the gay theme that said his two friends shown in the above picture were now married with family. But so what if he is gay and did in fact hustle up and married a compliant shemale and then secured a couple white kids so all could live as a happy family unit and complete his resume. If this were true none of this would change the fact that he is a supreme for life and an attempt to use the information to blackmail and effect the outcome of a decision before the Supreme Court would be met by a toothless smirk from this very smart man.

 

46 posted on 01/11/2014 10:44:32 AM PST by UncleSam (Why must someone else always make the final decisions?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes. but we knew where these traitorous POS’s were leaning. Him on the other hand, stabbed us from the back and front.


47 posted on 01/11/2014 10:47:17 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Occam’s razor.


48 posted on 01/11/2014 10:58:59 AM PST by Tequila Mockingbird
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To: Oldpuppymax

There is no good reason, absolutely nothing that can justify a Supreme Court ruling approving such a blatant expansion of government power over private citizens. The consequences of Roberts’ cowardice will shape the America our grand-children and their grand-children will live in. Taking comfort in fantasies about how Americans are getting a life lesson in the dangers of government over-reach by approving government over-reach is no different than rejoicing in the important lesson people learn about fire safety after their city is burned down to the ground.


49 posted on 01/11/2014 11:03:56 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: UncleSam
he is a supreme for life and an attempt to use the information to blackmail and effect the outcome of a decision before the Supreme Court would be met by a toothless smirk from this very smart man.

Blackmail is not a one dimensional threat. As for threats, they can be aimed at someone that Roberts cares very much about. Those are usually the most effective. I would not discount the notion that pressure was brought to bear on Roberts.

50 posted on 01/11/2014 11:15:30 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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