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UK to Keep New Medicines from the Elderly?
National Right to Life News ^ | January 10, 2014 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 01/11/2014 2:37:12 PM PST by kathsua

The UK may soon tighten its health care rationing to prevent new medicines from getting to the elderly. From the Telegraph story:

“New drugs would only be licensed for the NHS [National Health Service] if they help those judged to be a benefit to wider society under proposals from the health watchdog. Pharmaceutical firms on Thursday night warned that the move could lead to new medicines being denied to the elderly.

“A senior professor also said that the plans could threaten the well-being of older people and were ‘deeply suspect’, while charities questioned the ethics of the policy. The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (Nice), which decides whether new medicines should be approved, is due to change its criteria on how funding should be allocated. Under an appraisal system,

“Nice will have to take into account ‘wider societal benefits’ alongside the cost of medication and its life-enhancing properties. Health experts have warned that vulnerable groups, such as the elderly, may lose out because they do not contribute as much to society as younger people.”

I don’t think the restrictions would be limited to the elderly. In the crassly utilitarian world of health care rationing, a whole host of “non productive” people could be targeted for denial of medicines.

This kind of thinking is coming here if the Obamacarians get their way. Indeed, the UK’s rationing system was extolled as a model for the USA by some of Obamacare’s architects, the ACA’s regulators, and among the Medical Intelligentsia.

Editor’s note. This appeared on Wesley’s fine blog.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: britain; deathpanels; elderly; healthcare; obamacare; restriction; socializedmedicine
"Then let them die and reduce the surplus population." Ebenezer Scrooge Somebody ought to explain to the ungrateful slobs pushing this policy that the some of the people those medicines could help kept the United Kingdom from becoming part of the German empire.
1 posted on 01/11/2014 2:37:12 PM PST by kathsua
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To: kathsua

Preview for America.


2 posted on 01/11/2014 2:38:39 PM PST by AU72
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To: kathsua
Who cares about new drugs when they are busily EUTHANIZING OVER 10,000 A MONTH....

130,000 elderly patients killed every year by ‘death pathway’, claims leading UK doctor

by Thaddeus Baklinski Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:02 EST Tags: euthanasia, patrick pullicino, uk

LONDON, June 21, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An eminent British doctor told a meeting of the Royal Society of Medicine in London that every year 130,000 elderly patients that die while under the care of the National Health Service (NHS) have been effectively euthanized by being put on the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP), a protocol for care of the terminally ill that he described as a “death pathway.”

Sit back and enjoy your Obamacare.

3 posted on 01/11/2014 2:43:45 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: kathsua
“Nice will have to take into account ‘wider societal benefits’ alongside the cost of medication and its life-enhancing properties.

In the US, if a medication is more effective for whites than for minorities, it will be rejected and ignored.

4 posted on 01/11/2014 2:48:40 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: kathsua

I wonder how productive the occupy types and liberals are...


5 posted on 01/11/2014 2:53:38 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: kathsua

Doesnt surprise me. My elderly (80) mother got routine Check ups at her primary 3 times a year. (she is also a recovered lymphoma patient) She saw her physician Last week and told her he would see her in one year. Yes, they are cutting back. Yes, she can go in when she needs to, but it is an example of the changes taking place. (and no, she does not have O care) n


6 posted on 01/11/2014 2:56:18 PM PST by HollyB
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To: kathsua

and they will still vote for these fools


7 posted on 01/11/2014 2:59:06 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: kathsua

In a couple of years when socialized medicine is fully upon us and there is no more market in medicine anywhere there will be no more new medicines and no more new equipment, Research will cease because there is no market to pay for it. Governments will not. Medicine in a socialized system must compete for funds with the military and with welfare of all sorts and with the ever increasing corruption that is a necessary part of socialism. And medicine will never be regarded as the most important expense. The American market is the reason that medical research occurs now anywhere in the world. Those much decried patent medicine prices are so high because only Americans pay those new high prices during the patent period. The rest of the world has laws against paying them. Without those prices there are no new medicines. Those high prices are what pay for the research.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 2:59:36 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: kathsua

How N.I.C.E. George Orwell please pick up the white courtesy phone.


9 posted on 01/11/2014 3:06:42 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: kathsua

Clearly, the Party doesn’t want to see expensive medicines contaminating soylent green biscuits.


10 posted on 01/11/2014 3:14:40 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: zot; Interesting Times; NYer; Salvation; SeekAndFind; Alamo-Girl; 2ndDivisionVet

Nobama care future.


11 posted on 01/11/2014 3:26:03 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

12 posted on 01/11/2014 3:31:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: kathsua

If they are witholding the meds from non-productive members of society everyone on welfare should be denied treatment...

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13 posted on 01/11/2014 3:31:17 PM PST by Mears
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To: arthurus
" there will be no more new medicines and no more new equipment,"

Even if the new drug or equipment is effectively CHEAPER than the thing that it replaces? Oh wait! It never is. The medical industry has ethical issues and is putting itself out of business - but I do realize that government regulation does not help.

14 posted on 01/11/2014 3:33:24 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon (center)
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To: kathsua
Original article in UK telegraph that the blog post was based on
15 posted on 01/11/2014 3:52:03 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: kathsua

The way to end this nonsense is some “filial piety” resulting in bloody vengeance.

To explain, the NHS is now actively murdering some 30,000 plus people every year, usually by starving them to death. Most likely, just a handful of doctors and nurses have become the “angels of death” in the system, carrying out most of the homicides.

So what is needed is to identify them and kill them, just like if a serial killer was identified, but was “above the law”, protected from arrest, and even encouraged to kill more and more.

No reason to kill them with prejudice. Neither torturing these monsters nor defiling their remains. Just a simple execution and leave.

Once a dozen or more are killed, the “penny will drop” among the others that there is no such thing as murder without consequences.


16 posted on 01/11/2014 4:19:54 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
To explain, the NHS is now actively murdering some 30,000 plus people every year, usually by starving them to death

You missed the first digit (should be 130,000 a year)...or that is the quarterly quota.

17 posted on 01/11/2014 5:39:21 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: I am Richard Brandon

EVEN IF the new drug or gear is cheaper to use because the expense to develop it is what the government will not pay for and the government will not consider future savings against current costs. That welfare money has to be spent NOW to get the votes necessary at the next election.


18 posted on 01/11/2014 5:49:13 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: spokeshave

They are close to Soylent Green efficiency.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 5:51:11 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: kathsua

Had a friend aged 85 who went to Austria. She got a urinary tract infection and went for antibiotics. Nope. Don’t give antibiotics to people that old and she died over there with her daughter at her side.


20 posted on 01/11/2014 6:42:35 PM PST by amihow
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To: kathsua

Do millenials living in mom’s basement meet the nonproductive criteria, too?


21 posted on 01/11/2014 6:44:58 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You tell Grandma you are so sorry for voting for the Democrats..

Sarah Palin, told you there will be DEATH PANELS, with Obamacare, and Liberals said it was a LIE..

Now we see it wasn’t a lie, unless you were stupid enough to listen to Obama, once again! Three more years of this.. UGH!


22 posted on 01/11/2014 6:53:06 PM PST by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: GreyFriar
Nobama care future.

Yes. This is how Nobamacare will reduce the cost of Social Security and Medicare.

23 posted on 01/11/2014 8:59:12 PM PST by zot
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To: kathsua

Soilent green my friends old movie coming to haunt us


24 posted on 01/12/2014 5:04:45 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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