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Rich People Leaving California for Mysterious Reason
Frontpage Mag ^ | 1/15/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/15/2014 9:21:21 PM PST by Beave Meister

It’s okay, the 1 percent only pays 41 percent of California’s income taxes. And half the state pays no income tax at all. No one will even notice they’re gone.

Prop. 30, approved by voters in November 2012, raised state income taxes retroactively to Jan. 1, 2012, on singles making more than $250,000 and married couples making $500,000. It raised rates by one, two or three percentage points through 2018, bringing the top rate on incomes above $1 million to 13.3 percent, the highest in the nation.

Bryan Goldberg, who founded the Bleacher Report sports website and sold it to Turner Broadcasting for about $200 million in mid-2012, is moving his primary residence from San Francisco to New York this year. A major reason, he says, is Prop. 30 and the way it was applied retroactively.

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KEYWORDS: bleacherreport; bryangoldberg; byebye; california; communism; coup; democrats; economy; expostfacto; govclueless; govmoonbeam; hollywierd; hollywood; jerrybrown; liberals; obama; prop30; richpeople; socialism; taxes; traintonowhere
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Mysterious reasons.......What could it be? Hummmmmmmmm. Still thinking.......still thinking....
1 posted on 01/15/2014 9:21:21 PM PST by Beave Meister
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> It’s okay, the 1 percent only pays 41 percent of California’s income taxes. And half the state pays no income tax at all. No one will even notice they’re gone... [Demwit] Bryan Goldberg, who founded the Bleacher Report sports website and sold it to Turner Broadcasting for about $200 million in mid-2012, is moving his primary residence from San Francisco to New York this year. A major reason, he says, is Prop. 30 and the way it was applied retroactively.

Thanks Beave Meister.


2 posted on 01/15/2014 9:23:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Beave Meister

It’s absolutely despicable that bottom-feeding freeloaders who don’t pay a penny in taxes can vote to force those who bust their asses going to work everyday should pay more taxes. Those people aren’t Americans. They’re lowlife commie scum.


3 posted on 01/15/2014 9:26:33 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: Beave Meister
...still thinking....

Well, it is probably not the weather. Even though we all know Global Warming will kill us all......still thinking...

4 posted on 01/15/2014 9:27:01 PM PST by D Rider (Don't give sharp objects to small children)
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To: Beave Meister

The mystery is why I am still here.


5 posted on 01/15/2014 9:28:47 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

89% of the people voted to over tax the top 11% who are of course the big tax payers in the state. I moved out last July.


6 posted on 01/15/2014 9:29:41 PM PST by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: Beave Meister
*snickering*
Hollande's France = Brown's Kalifornia
70%+ tax rate (fed/state/local)

7 posted on 01/15/2014 9:29:45 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: Beave Meister

Maybe they should build a wall or something


8 posted on 01/15/2014 9:30:25 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Beave Meister

Can’t possibly be the big donkey in the room.


9 posted on 01/15/2014 9:36:03 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Beave Meister

Californya, It truly is the land of nuts and fruits.


10 posted on 01/15/2014 9:38:40 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Beave Meister
I just can't believe this guy. Doesn't Bryan Goldberg read the papers?
Forbes:January 14, 2014:Mayor Bill De Blasio Risks New York City's Future With His Tax Increases
11 posted on 01/15/2014 9:40:36 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe it’s all that radiation flowing in.


12 posted on 01/15/2014 9:41:37 PM PST by wolfman
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To: Beave Meister
is moving his primary residence from San Francisco to New York this year

What a dimwit

13 posted on 01/15/2014 9:41:55 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: South40

Don’t like the heat in Texas?


14 posted on 01/15/2014 9:42:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: South40

Well, with all the Texas-bashing you’ve done over the years.. stay there.


15 posted on 01/15/2014 9:42:34 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Beave Meister

You are welcome here in Texas. Just don’t bring any of your socialist ideas or notions with you.


16 posted on 01/15/2014 9:43:32 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: txhurl
Well, with all the Texas-bashing you’ve done over the years.. stay there.

I love Texas, I used to live there. I "bash" its liberal governor and faux conservatives like you who defend him.

17 posted on 01/15/2014 9:46:21 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

There is NOBODY who pays not a penny in taxes...there are taxes on your drinks, cell phone bill, utility bill, tires, etc...


18 posted on 01/15/2014 9:46:26 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Beave Meister

We should go back to only property owners are allowed to vote because the freeloaders will vote to raise taxes on everyone every time so they can ride the freebie wave at the beach.Freeloaders have no skin in the game!


19 posted on 01/15/2014 9:48:34 PM PST by plainshame
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To: South40

Faux conservatives like me.

If I search your posting history, will I expect to find any support of Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz?


20 posted on 01/15/2014 9:52:20 PM PST by txhurl
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To: fabian

If you’re one of the freeloaders not to worry. Your welfare check is grossed up to cover those annoying little taxes. The freeloaders are reimbursed for the taxes they inadvertently pay.


21 posted on 01/15/2014 9:52:42 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It’s absolutely despicable that bottom-feeding freeloaders who don’t pay a penny in taxes can vote to force those who bust their asses going to work everyday should pay more taxes. Those people aren’t Americans. They’re lowlife commie scum.

That's democracy for you. Two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner.

22 posted on 01/15/2014 9:53:52 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Beave Meister

I have a friend who owns a business in California.
I have quietly stopped buying things he sells as I don’t want to support the government there through his income taxes.

Unfortunately he is pretty far left politically he doesn’t see what is happening to him and his family.


23 posted on 01/15/2014 9:59:42 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: South40
The mystery is why I am still here.

Well, 72 and sunny today. Redwoods and hiking in backcountry parts of Santa Clara only 15 minutes up the road. Beach is an hour away. Spectacular snow skiing 5 hours away as is Yosemite. Fresh fruit and vegetables year round.

There are downsides, of course. We are entering Year 3 of severe drought, all the hills are parched, the reservoirs are empty, and it looks like we are going to have to learn Chinese because of all the money and buyers gushing in from Beijing, Taipei, and Hong Kong.

24 posted on 01/15/2014 10:00:52 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Beave Meister
***Bryan Goldberg,...is moving his primary residence from San Francisco to New York this year. A major reason, he says, is Prop. 30 and the way it was applied retroactively.***

Methinks Mr. Goldberg is in for a rude awakening. I suggest he do a simple background check on the newly minted mayor, and what he plans for the ‘rich’ who reside in the Big Apple. And if Bryan intends on escaping to upstate NY, Gov Cuomo is a card carrying nazi as well.

25 posted on 01/15/2014 10:00:53 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: txhurl

Wow. You really are reaching new levels of stupid. I was critical of Palin for endorsing your liberal governor and for endorsing RINO John McCain. But I agree with her and Cruz on most issues. In fact, I am a big supporter of Cruz. I was 100% behind Ted when your fellow La Raza Rick supporters were behind Dewhurst. And, unlike you, your search will not find no history of me ever having defended fraudulent conservative politicians like Perry or defending his history of pro-ILLEGAL alien policies, nor will it find that I have ever bashed Texas. I have criticized its liberal leaders and liberals like you who defend them.


26 posted on 01/15/2014 10:01:09 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

85 here today. Same yesterday. But with the high taxes, high cost of living, surrounded by liberal kooks and the fact that the state is run by tax and spend liberals, the bad by far outweighs the good the good weather.


27 posted on 01/15/2014 10:03:12 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Methinks thee doth protest too much.

Stay in CA.


28 posted on 01/15/2014 10:05:28 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

lol! I’m not protesting at all. I merely pointed out the false nature of your accusations. From bashing the state of Texas to not supporting Palin or Cruz, I have proved you wrong on every count. If you possessed even a scintilla of common sense you would realize that.


29 posted on 01/15/2014 10:09:20 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Now me REALLY thinks thee doth protest too much.


30 posted on 01/15/2014 10:11:40 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Beave Meister
They haven't left California. They're just not there anymore!

(an obsequious pseudo-zen answer that should satisfy most CA libs)

31 posted on 01/15/2014 10:15:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Beave Meister

I escaped to Arizona in July. I’m in OC this week on business, there isn’t a thing I miss about it. Can’t wait to go home.


32 posted on 01/15/2014 10:16:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: GeronL
I have friends that because of a lucrative contract moved to New York from California about 7 years ago but property taxes in New york got so bad they moved to Pennsylvania and he commutes to New York.
33 posted on 01/15/2014 10:17:14 PM PST by dalereed
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To: txhurl
You also think Perry is a conservative.

What you "think" is what makes you a joke.

You obviously feel compelled to get the last word, even if it means repeating yourself. I have no interest in that, so have at it. I won't be reading it or responding to it. I've proved you wrong and that's good enough for me.

Bye.

34 posted on 01/15/2014 10:17:42 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40; txhurl

South, you have a thinking problem. Stay in CALIFORNIA.


35 posted on 01/15/2014 10:18:20 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

I’ll go wherever I damned well please. If that bothers you, good.


36 posted on 01/15/2014 10:21:40 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Beave Meister

not much of a break if you move from CA to NYC.


37 posted on 01/15/2014 10:25:27 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Beave Meister

how about if you actually pay income taxes, only then you get to vote. go back to having to have some skin in the game.


38 posted on 01/15/2014 10:26:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Beave Meister

And to think just 30 years ago California was truly the golden state and an economic powerhouse in its own right. Now it’s turning into a third world craphole with the producers leaving in a hurry and idiot legislators in Sacramento spending the state into oblivion. Everything the left touches it turns to garbage. California is a true blue state and because of that it is a true blue economic catastrophe.


39 posted on 01/15/2014 10:30:30 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; South40
Well, 72 and sunny today. Redwoods and hiking in backcountry parts of Santa Clara only 15 minutes up the road. Beach is an hour away. Spectacular snow skiing 5 hours away as is Yosemite. Fresh fruit and vegetables year round.

78 here further south in CA...Flowers blooming and the vegetable garden and Orange trees are doing quite well..Growing food year round, wearing shorts and BBQing and playing golf in the dead of winter and year round, has it's pluses...Not to mention the salt and fresh water fishing, the mountains, beaches and desert and a whole lot of stuff to do, are all within an hour or so.

Living behind enemy lines has many great points. In fact those points are worth a small fortune to us.

40 posted on 01/15/2014 10:43:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Marcella

I guess he’ll need some Texas Hospitality lessons.

Always an unhinged guy. A Shreiker, not a thinker.

Decidedly not a likely contributor to our Great State.


41 posted on 01/15/2014 10:43:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: South40
The mystery is why I am still here.

California is a beautiful state. I imagine it would be hard to leave.

It is a pity; it used to be a conservative state.

42 posted on 01/15/2014 10:44:10 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
It is a pity; it used to be a conservative state.

Hey, it's a pity the U.S. used to be home to a united people and our borders were secure and government didn't want to control literally everything you did...

Of course the ugly reality is nothing stays the same, regardless of where ya live. Including where you live.

43 posted on 01/15/2014 10:51:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
My critiques of California go well beyond the high cost of living. Liberals running the state are solidly behind the $68 billion rail line. California governor Jerry Brown has recently followed Rick Perry's lead and is taxing the working class so he can afford to give instate college tuition and financial aide to ILLEGAL aliens. After years of failure, Gil Cedillo, known as "One Bill Gil" has finally succeeded in giving drivers licenses to the ILLEGAL hordes who infest the state. I own a business. I can think of no state that is more business unfriendly than California.

Yes, you can grow your own fruits and vegetables here. I live on 3.5 acres and grow everything from avocados to citrus to grapes to olives. But I know I could live far better elsewhere where I'm not being taxed to death to pay for the latest California leftist's handouts to ILLEGAls and other vermin who are milking the taxpayer dry. That small fortune you mentioned is growing faster than you may think.

44 posted on 01/15/2014 10:54:15 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Hey, everyone is free to hit the freeway and head eastbound.

I understand for years now liberals are leaving and infesting other states...I’ve seen the complaints here for years now.

I say the more that leave the better and hope the trend continues.


45 posted on 01/15/2014 10:57:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: South40
Liberals running the state

BTW and the exact same is happening in D.C. with your fed gov and in many other states...I personally no longer trust anyone in government, regardless of party.

And remember politics is cyclical...Maybe things will turn around for CA and the rest of America politically. Who knows...

46 posted on 01/15/2014 11:01:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
If you read this article there is some good news. Many of those "rich" who are being taxed to death are the limousine liberals responsible for electing the far-left kooks who are behind this state's destruction.

I own property in Idaho. I've owned it since the early 90s. I visit there often but have yet to talk myself into moving there and taking the chance on being so far from my business. I have recently thought about selling what it took me 35-years to create. That's a hard decision, though.

47 posted on 01/15/2014 11:02:38 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

BTW, a good percentage of those rich folk are leftist liberal folk with big dollars...

Idaho is nice, but way too cold from me...And as ya get older, the cold bites down really hard.


48 posted on 01/15/2014 11:05:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The property is near Coeur d’Alene. It gets cold there but doesn’t get that much snow. I’ve spent many a winter there. I can handle it. Now if I could just convince the wife to go. She likes it too, as a place to visit, but her roots are in San Diego.


49 posted on 01/15/2014 11:09:15 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

And ya do have a point. I know some hard core leftist idiots with bucks who run big biz, and some of them are even turning on their boy Obama. He’s clearly a disaster, and most of them know it...Some are even admitting it.

Again...Who knows what the next 5 or so years have in store for CA and the rest. I’m not real confident things will turn around by traditional means...But hopefully it will.


50 posted on 01/15/2014 11:18:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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