Skip to comments.The Killing of Kennedy
Posted on 01/20/2014 1:40:53 PM PST by Nelson Hultberg
With the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination this past November, I began revisiting the various conspiracy theories that have appeared over the years. I never put any stock in the Warren Commission and the establishment verdict of Oswald as lone killer. But among all the conspiracy portrayals put forth, none truly satisfied me as definitive. That is until I read JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, by James W. Douglass.
There are hundreds of JFK conspiracy books in print, but Douglass takes the reader to places not visited by others eloquently and hauntingly. And he backs up his disclosures with 2,041 source notes. This is a book that will linger in the recesses of ones mind for a lifetime. Establishment defenders of the Warren Commission like Vincent Bugliosi, Gerald Posner, and Bill OReilly come off as grubby lap dogs of the state in comparison.
Something conspiratorial, indeed, took place in Dallas that frightful November day in 1963, and the fact that all establishment partisans scrambled so quickly to obfuscate so blatantly in their explanations afterwards should be a clear signal that evil was at work on the part of our government. The Warren Commissions single bullet theory is so embarrassing that an intelligent individual feels immense shame in even listening to it, much less extending any probability to it. Its not a theory; its a Big Lie the likes of which Joseph Goebbels popularized.
But, of course, the Warren Commission was not after the truth. It was an egregious whitewash from the beginning with its conclusion well-formed prior to its assembly, which was to then be rammed home to the American public by LBJ and Chief Justice Earl Warren....more at source
(Excerpt) Read more at afr.org ...
I imagine if the author of the book is a serious person he would request the author of the article to stop being on his side.
He spoke about one aspect I had not really previously considered: the death of J. D. Tippit.
Specifically, why was J. D. Tippit where he was at that specific time? I always assumed coincidence and routine patrol.
He was of the firm belief, that Tippit was there specifically to kill Oswald, but Oswald got the jump on him. This caused the conspirator's to go to plan B......... Ruby.
For the whole conspiracy to work, they needed a fall guy - Oswald.
Oswald was a known commodity to the Russians and Cubans. Castro knew Owald was a lit fuse probably aimed at JFK.
Oswald shot JFK, without help from anyone.
In the hindsight of looking at a situation like the Benghazi massacre, the concurrence of some persons very high in the government becomes much more believable.
Who stood to gain the most from the death of JFK?, and is it significant that the assassination took place in Texas?
True, JFK had played fast and loose with his connections with the Mafia, and maybe Bobby was just a little too tough in a few cases. But Castro had a beef with Kennedy as well, and just maybe, there was a temporary de-facto alliance between Elbie Jay and some who wanted a little more “flexibility” in international dealings.
Opportunity meets with means and motive.
The trouble with a theory like that is that you're blowing off Tippit's death in the line of duty and painting him as a criminal. He was patrolling his usual area when the BOLO came on his radio for Oswald. He saw Oswald and pulled up alongside of him. When he got out of his car, Oswald unloaded on him. All available evidence shows that Officer Tippit was gunned down in the line of duty. IMO his death should not be treated as just another "what if?" in the JFK conspiracy sweepstakes.
Anyone with a functioning brain, who saw the Zapruder Film, and who’s shot a rifle at a pumpkin or water jug, instinctively knew JFK was headshot from the front, Oswald was set-up, and the gov’t lied its ass off. I was 13 (by a few days), a brand new Eagle Scout and in freshman HS algebra class when the announcement came over the PA system at 12:30pm CST. That day was the “end of innocence” for me, as all I’ve come to expect from the gov’t is lies, fraud and deception.
If they can cover up the 1996 shoot-down of TWA Flight 800 in front of over 200 eyewitnesses, they could EASILY cover up an assassination conspiracy in a case like JFK’s.
The crimes of Clinton and Obama has made a lot more people see that a lot of high government officials are ruthless and look closer at the events of 1963 and realize that there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy, and Oswald was set up to be the patsy.
I have always thought the same thing. I think when the shots rang out in Dealy plaza, Oswald KNEW he’d been set up. During the 4-5 minutes he was in his rooming house just after the assassination, a Dallas PD car pulled up in front and honked....waited a minutes or so and then left. I think Oswald was running for his life and realized that Tippit was there to take him out.
“Oswald shot JFK, without help from anyone.”
Agreed. A loose cannon commie with shooting skills to bring it off. True, the assassination of JFK redounded greatly to Lyndon Johnson’s benefit (and how he squandered it!) but the Soviets thought Kennedy a useful patsy & were shocked and saddened at the news.
“Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”
You made EAGLE (essentially) when you were TWELVE?
Regardless of whether you believe JFK was killed by conspiracy or the “lone nut” Oswald, history begs the question of a second conspiracy - one from the federal government to cover up the evidence and affix blame. LBJ, according to some, was afraid to learn that the Russians or, more likely, the Cubans were behind the assassination and wanted to get the official “lone nut” case out there (with the help of LBJ’s neighbor J. Edgar Hoover) to diffuse the possibility of nuclear war to avenge the assassination.
In other words, LBJ did not know who killed JFK but he wanted to make damn sure it wasn’t going to lead to a second war (Vietnam already being the first one) so he and Hoover put together the “lone nut” theory, twisted arms to form a commission led by the Chief Justice with a set conclusion and then told the lawyers to find the facts to fit the conclusion.
To do that, evidence had to be faked and counter evidence destroyed ASAP - something I think even Oswald apologists can agree on.
There could have been not one but two conspiracies of unrelated parties - one to commit the murder and a second government-directed one to cover it up.
I've read many books on the JFK assassination - from both points of view. The most compelling is "Best Evidence" by David S.Lifton.
Look forward to reading this one.
At that moment, Viet Nam was still small potatoes. And Castro was a lump in everyone's craw.
Had they seriously believed Castro was behind it, they'd have rolled him up like a cheap rug. And the soviets dare not interfere.
So hints to the effect that maybe it was Castro have struck me as stirring the water.
Here’s something to ponder.
Looking back at the Presidents that have been assassinated in this country’s history, they all had a few this in common, the most obvious is they all opposed a central private bank.
Lincoln spoke out in opposition and was killed.
Garfield spoke out against it and was killed.
McKinley spoke out against it and was killed.
Kennedy threatened to repeal the Federal Reserve and was killed.
Andrew Jackson spoke out against a private central bank and two attempts were made on his life.
Reagan spoke out in opposition to the Federal Reserve and after he recovered, he never spoke of it again.
Maybe its just a coincidence, but the Federal Reserve and the big banks that are a part of it have had a hand in every dirty, sleazy goings on in this nations history and every President that speaks out against them has either had an attempt on his life or been killed.
After he left the White House, LBJ said on film to Walter Cronkite that he wasn’t certain that he believed Oswald was the lone assassin and suspected the Cubans were behind it. Maybe he knew the truth and was muddying the water or maybe he didn’t know the truth at all. Or maybe he was trying desperately to look like he was on the right side of history as more conspiracy information dribbled out.
But I saw no point in him saying this in front of a news camera if he believed Oswald acted alone.
Here is the excerpt I’m referring to:
Why does LBJ say this if he’s sure it was Oswald?