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Catholics wake up! It’s “Good Democrat” or “Good Catholic” you can’t be both
Coach is Right ^ | 1/23/14 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 01/23/2014 8:46:07 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Note to my Catholic Democrat brothers and sisters:

In this world you may have either knowledge or repose; but you may not have both.

Your Church and your religious freedoms are under an ongoing attack being carried out under the direct control of Barack Obama, a man many of your helped put in office. While you were taking care of yourselves and your families and trusting in the wrong people, your Democrat Party has turned on you and your Church. You must now choose which one to stand with.

There may have been a time long ago when we could be both good Catholics and good Democrats but that alliance is now a relic of the past.

Holding on to the comfort of uninformed robotic voting...

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: conservatives; democratparty; liberals

1 posted on 01/23/2014 8:46:07 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

I wonder about any Christian that votes democrat.


2 posted on 01/23/2014 8:47:57 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Oldpuppymax

My Pittsburgh neighbors have been having it both ways for about fifty years now. And the local Church leaders seem more than willing to go along for the ride.

Collection Basket Uber Alles!


3 posted on 01/23/2014 8:48:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldpuppymax
It is one of life's great mysteries to me how any Catholic or Evangelical can vote for a Democrat. Coach is right the two are incongruous.

Democrats promote abortion, homosexuality, and a general loosening of moral standards. Heck at the last Democrat convention they boo’d the inclusion of God and Israel in their platform! Tell me, how can you be one and vote with the other?

Even if your particular Congressman, or whomever, professes to be against abortion, nonetheless, by putting that person in office you support the Democrat Party and you support their ability to control the agenda for America.

Shame on you.

4 posted on 01/23/2014 8:54:10 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
grew up in NYC....moved many years ago now(thankfully).

in the neighborhood I grew up in it was 99% Catholic and around 85% Democrat. most the people were either Union or worked in Govt. Jobs...
as long as the Dhimmicrats pandered to these folks economically they did not care to change parties, they were mostly oblivious to any ‘politics’ and mostly only cared about how much money they were taking home.

considering the economy that may change but don't expect it to change because of any constitutional issues....

5 posted on 01/23/2014 8:58:34 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Thanks to the Liberation “Social Justice” thelology that saturates the Catholic church, and all Christian churches, for that matter, “good” Christians of all flavors will continue to vote DemonRAT without one pang of conscience, because the message they’re getting from their leadership is that “Social Justice” trumps everything.

A clear majority of “Catholics”, and many “Evangelicals” voted for 0bama and support 0bama-care and amnesty for illegals for because of this.

And they would do it again, and again.

There are “Catholics” in my family who would vote DemonRAT even in the face of excommunication, because it’s “the moral thing to do” from their perspecive, and that God is on their side in this.

They really, really, REALLY believe that.


6 posted on 01/23/2014 9:00:11 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Good Democrat” is an oxymoron.


7 posted on 01/23/2014 9:02:25 AM PST by detective
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To: Obadiah

It is infuriating. I say that as a Catholic. I was scolded on this site for actually mentioning that there is a big problem with liberals in the priesthood and sisterhood - citing bus loads of nuns lining up for Obama votes. The false notion that democrats care about the poor is what gets them every time.


8 posted on 01/23/2014 9:02:30 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: Resolute Conservative

There are some that fall for the siren song of “good works through no personal sacrifice” that the ‘rats offer.


9 posted on 01/23/2014 9:04:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldpuppymax

God will surely decide - and He doesn’t discriminate on the basis of political party.


10 posted on 01/23/2014 9:05:12 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Resolute Conservative

My sister does because of globull warming (”just in case it exists”) and they “care for the poor”. I get up, and go out in the woods, and SCREAM!!


11 posted on 01/23/2014 9:12:00 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Obadiah

I have two Lutheran pastors as relative, both Rats!! GAAAAAHH!


12 posted on 01/23/2014 9:12:51 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Westbrook
You got it. It's the social justice angle that that gets them. What is social justice? Spending other people's (tax) money to help the less fortunate?

Do you know who started almost all the hospitals in this country? That's right, Catholics. And without any government assistance. They did this mostly to care for the poor. Now, they want the government to confiscate other people's money and do what they themselves are no longer willing to do.

Do you know who created and built most of the Ivy League schools in this country? That's right, Evangelicals. Along the way we abdicated that service and were co-opted by receiving copious amounts of government loans and grants. In accepting these government bribes we became polluted and gave up control. In short, we compromised in exchange for the cash.

What is social justice? I say social justice is personally living by Biblical principles and abiding by the two greatest commandments. It is not, the actions of a government.

13 posted on 01/23/2014 9:17:28 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Obadiah

I know of only one person whom I consider to truly love Jesus who voted for and supports Obama. Not sure why he did or how he justifies it, but I believe his faith to be real. I also know many people who “claim” to be Christians who support Obama. And good grief, don’t even get me started on the OVERWHELMING support from black churches.


14 posted on 01/23/2014 9:17:56 AM PST by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: SgtHooper

Don’t EVEN get me started on my insufferable mother in law. She goes once a week to launder the altar linens, is “in” with the priest, and reminds us all what a great Catholic she is ...except she votes Democrat, every time, unashamedly.

“As long as you’re a good person ...it doesn’t matter what you do ....” (doesn’t matter if you’re gay, have abortions, keep people down on welfare, etc). It’s all okey dokey!!


15 posted on 01/23/2014 9:17:56 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Oldpuppymax
Your Church and your religious freedoms are under an ongoing attack being carried out under the direct control of Barack Obama, a man many of your helped put in office.

Changing your tune, "coach"? Who's to blame? The people that voted for Obama, or the people who didn't?

....clearly the vast majority of Evangelicals stayed home on Election Day. They weren’t dealing with a storm or a personal family emergency. They stayed home because they made a conscious decision to allow our Marxist enemy to continue ruining our lives rather than have Mormon Mitt Romney as our president.

They draw their grounds for such a twisted thought from their interpretation of the Bible which they take literally – except of course for the part about handling poisonous snakes – that’s where a more modern interpretation of Scripture takes hold. The Evangelicals’ hatred of Romney burns so brightly it blinded them. Self- flagellation and a willingness to aid and abet a clear enemy became preferable to them – consequences be damned.
-- from the "Coach is Right" thread Evangelicals plunge America into darkness – mislead polls and stay home on Election Day


16 posted on 01/23/2014 9:27:45 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Oldpuppymax

It would go a long way if the Republicans ever nominated a Catholic for President to show more than their vote is welcome. In the meantime it’s the economy.


17 posted on 01/23/2014 9:29:36 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Obadiah
They also push envy of neighbors goods, Take God out of the public square and everywhere else. There isn't one commandant that they don't have a policy against it. Stealing via taxes, murder via abortion, envy and coventness in what they spout etc.
18 posted on 01/23/2014 11:12:29 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Westbrook

This also explains why the AA church votes dimocrat. Liberation Theology.


19 posted on 01/23/2014 11:41:39 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Obadiah
It is one of life's great mysteries to me how any Catholic or Evangelical can vote for a Democrat.

It is a rarity for an Evangelical Christian to vote democrat, being the most pro-life, conservative vote in America, around 76% to 80%, but the majority of Catholics vote democrat.

They aren't similar, they are dissimilar.

20 posted on 01/23/2014 12:18:24 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ex-snook
It would go a long way if the Republicans ever nominated a Catholic for President to show more than their vote is welcome.

Gingrich and Santorum are both Catholics, but the Mormon cleaned up with the Catholic voters in the primaries.

Crisis Magazine
*Why Catholics Love Mitt Romney*
""Why won’t American Catholics get behind the very Catholic Rick Santorum?

From New Hampshire to Nevada, he has lost the Catholic vote in nearly every state where Republicans have gone to the polls to elect their nominee for president. The only slight exception is Tennessee*, where he carried the Catholic vote by a whopping one percent.
Instead, Catholics have gone for a Mormon: Mitt Romney.
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Romney is struggling among Evangelicals, however, and Santorum is not. ""

======= *BLAZE ANALYSIS: THE CATHOLIC VOTE WENT TO OBAMA OVER ROMNEY DESPITE CONTRACEPTION & RELIGIOUS FREEDOM DEBATES*

21 posted on 01/23/2014 12:33:55 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

Reading the rest of the article you site shows the following: “Catholics who report attending church weekly voted for Romney over Obama 57 percent to 42 percent.”

Those of us who are actually Catholic know I was talking about the 42% here. We don’t consider people who say they are “Catholics” but don’t practice their faith to be Catholics. The media love to count anyone who ever waited for a bus in front of a Catholic Church a Catholic - unless of course that person doesn’t vote Democrat then like those who have stopped looking for work, they are not counted at all.


22 posted on 01/23/2014 12:47:53 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

They are Catholics, baptized members of the Catholic denomination, a denomination that the democrats import it’s members by the millions.

As pro-life conservatives learn how the Catholic vote has always been owned by the democrat party, that they really care about some internal trivia as you posted?

In recent elections have the older, white, Catholics become less liberal, yes, not very conservative, not even close to Evangelicals, and it is meaningless anyway.

The Catholic denomination is not a race, it is a particular church denomination, and one that the democrats import 100s of thousands more of every year.


23 posted on 01/23/2014 12:56:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
"Gingrich and Santorum are both Catholics, but the Mormon cleaned up with the Catholic voters in the primaries."

Maybe because there are fewer Catholics in the GOP. Also Gingrich and Santorum were outspoken war mongers. But you have a point, Catholics vote on more than religion. I think if Clinton runs, a Pope Catholic would be the best opponent.

24 posted on 01/23/2014 12:58:50 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

The percentage of Catholics in the GOP has nothing to do with them not supporting Catholic conservatives in the primary, rather than the liberal Mormon.

Catholics supported Clinton over Bush and Dole.


25 posted on 01/23/2014 1:24:52 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
"The percentage of Catholics in the GOP has nothing to do with them not supporting Catholic conservatives in the primary, rather than the liberal Mormon."

Then why has the GOP never nominated a Catholic for President?

26 posted on 01/23/2014 1:37:37 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

I think you are confused.

The percentage of Catholics who are republican, has nothing to do with why the “Catholic” republicans did not prefer the conservative Catholic primary candidates, over the liberal Mormon candidate.


27 posted on 01/23/2014 1:43:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

If you think I’m confused straighten me out please.

1] I say conservative and liberal are not Catholic issues
2] I ask why the GOP has never nominated a Catholic candidate for President.


28 posted on 01/23/2014 1:54:53 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

You do seem confused.

“”I say conservative and liberal are not Catholic issues”” what the heck does that mean?

“”I ask why the GOP has never nominated a Catholic candidate for President.”” I don’t know why that is important to you.

Why aren’t you interested in learning what I posted to you in regards to that, why did Catholic republicans vote against the conservative Catholics in the primary?

“”Gingrich and Santorum are both Catholics, but the Mormon cleaned up with the Catholic voters in the primaries.

Crisis Magazine
*Why Catholics Love Mitt Romney*
“”Why won’t American Catholics get behind the very Catholic Rick Santorum?

From New Hampshire to Nevada, he has lost the Catholic vote in nearly every state where Republicans have gone to the polls to elect their nominee for president. The only slight exception is Tennessee*, where he carried the Catholic vote by a whopping one percent.
Instead, Catholics have gone for a Mormon: Mitt Romney.””


29 posted on 01/23/2014 2:42:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

From your article. Now see if you understand why.
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“In addition to being drawn to executive experience, Catholics can relate to how Romney has lived his life. He married his high school sweetheart and had many children. He made a successful career in business all the while remaining active in his local church. Romney is someone Catholics know.

Catholics thought they knew Rick Santorum. He’s a family man all right, but once Santorum caught Potomac fever, it was too hard to break. Santorum made his name in Washington, and even before entering the halls of Congress he was lobbying as a young attorney in Pittsburgh. Santorum’s experience as a representative in Congress doesn’t jive well with how the Church is run. As much as some Catholics would like the Church to be a democracy, it isn’t.”


30 posted on 01/23/2014 4:11:34 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Oldpuppymax

You generally have to die to become a good Democrat.


31 posted on 01/23/2014 4:22:52 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: ex-snook

So you seem to agree with republican Catholics rejecting conservative Catholic candidates like Gingrich and Santorum for the ultra liberal, anti-conservative, pro-abortion, pro-gay Mormon Bishop Romney, which mirrors the fact that the majority of Catholics vote pro-abortion democrat anyway.

I don’t know what all your posting is about, what is your point?


32 posted on 01/23/2014 4:31:35 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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