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Global Warming: UN Says Communists Fight It Best
Flopping Aces ^ | 01-25-14 | Warren Beatty

Posted on 01/25/2014 10:31:37 AM PST by Starman417

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I have a friend who swears its getting hotter in the summer. And he says that it's warmer in the winter as well. I have repeatedly told him that anecdotal evidence is worthless, as is short term data. Nothing can convince him otherwise. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. But, because he says he is a patriot, the latest from the ("always objective") United Nations has really got his undies in a bunch.

It seems that UN Climate Chief Christiana Figueres said on January 13, 2014, that democracy is a poor political system for fighting global warming, that Communist China is instead the best model. She actually said that!

According to Figueres, Communist China is "doing it right" when it comes to fighting global warming. This even though China is the world's top emitter of carbon dioxide. According to Figueres, Communist China is able to implement policies because its political system avoids some of the legislative hurdles seen in some countries, including the U.S. Figueres continued, "The political divide in the U.S. Congress has slowed efforts to pass climate legislation and is 'very detrimental' to the fight against global warming." I guess that's what she means by Communist China "doing it right."

Figueres and environmental global warming activists say that Communist China is a "leader" in renewable energy. Perhaps they should check their sources and/or figures before making rash, provably false statements. For example, Communist China, in 2012, got 9 percent of its power from renewable energy sources. The U.S., during the same period, got 11 percent of its power from renewable energy sources.

Communist China gets 90 percent of its power from fossil fuels, primarily from coal. In fact, Chinese coal demand is expected to explode as the country continues to develop. China has approved 100 million metric tons of new coal production capacity in 2013 as part of its government's plan to bring 860 million metric tons of coal production online by 2015. Communist Chinese coal production of 3.66 billion tons at the end of 2012, accounted for nearly half the world's total coal production. That amount is far larger than US coal production in 2012 of 1 billion tons. Helen Lau, senior commodities analyst with UOB Kay Hian in Hong Kong, said, "Given that China's total energy consumption is still growing along with the economy, then coal production will continue to grow." While efforts to curb pollution mean coal's share of the Communist China's energy mix is expected to fall, the total amount of the coal burned will still increase.

The Wall Street Journal said that Communist China's air quality was so bad that it had about 1.2 million people die prematurely in 2010 as a result of air pollution. Government figures say that lung cancer is now the leading cause of death from malignant tumors, even though many of those dying are nonsmokers. Still, Figueres said, "They actually want to breathe air that they don't have to look at."

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: agw; china; climatechange; communists; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; warming

1 posted on 01/25/2014 10:31:37 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417
UN Says Communists Fight It Best

The communists fight is best because they have more air pollution than all the other countries combined?

I know, I'm missing something.

5.56mm

2 posted on 01/25/2014 10:34:05 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Starman417
Global Warming: UN Says Communists Fight It Best

Of course the UN says that.

3 posted on 01/25/2014 10:38:28 AM PST by glennaro
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To: Starman417

Either this ditzy broad has never been to a communist country or she does a lot of “recreational” drugs.


4 posted on 01/25/2014 10:39:17 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: Starman417

UN’s Chief Idiot speaks ,well maybe not ,the UN is chock full of Idiots


5 posted on 01/25/2014 10:48:39 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Starman417

The UN:

Same group that says Jews are committing Genocide, Islam is Peaceful, and Free Trade works

Commie Globalist Nutjobs


6 posted on 01/25/2014 11:07:42 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Starman417

North Korea is a good model for fighting Global Warming. Be so poor your cannot afford to use electricity. Starve your citizenry to death so they do not consume resources or emit CO2. Make sure to kill anyone who is not happy with the first two situations.


7 posted on 01/25/2014 11:20:38 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Starman417
A fair amount of China's pollution probably comes from people burning firewood for cooking and heat. An excerpt about the consequences of using firewood for cooking:

Mrs. Esther Abati (about 70) is a small scale farmer from Iwokun-Nla village in Ewekoro Local Government Area of Ogun State. Despite her age, she still cooks for herself, but with firewood at a cooking stead located right in the middle of her mud house, thus emitting smoke that causes indoor air pollution constituting a serious threat to her health. Unperturbed by the smoke which chokes her up on a daily basis, Mama (as she is called by neighbours) said she had been cooking in the same location as long as she could remember. She remembered to have cooked great meals when her husband was alive and she was much younger. “We are used to cooking with firewood. Our forefathers also cooked with it and nothing happened to them; so, nothing will happen to us,” she said in Yoruba. Mama knows next to nothing about the health risks (as pneumonia, cardiovascular diseases, chronic lung disease and lung cancer, as well as ill-health) associated with cooking with firewood and other solid fuels such as charcoal, sawdust and agricultural residues, among others.

Back in the day, London was said to be perpetually foggy. But it wasn't fog that kept the air murky - it was smoke from cooking fires and fireplaces that used firewood or coal as cheap and convenient fuels. On a per capita basis, China burns less coal than Germany in an area with a lower population density than Germany.

8 posted on 01/25/2014 11:33:11 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Starman417

Then what are those pictures we are seeing of the heavy smog clouds in Beijing?


9 posted on 01/25/2014 11:35:56 AM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Starman417

Germany’s population density is 593 per sq mile vs China’s 365. However, I’d say it’s a good bet that no one in Berlin burns firewood for heat or culinary purposes, whereas in China, those who don’t are probably the exception.


10 posted on 01/25/2014 11:37:32 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Just give us your money and we’ll prove it.


11 posted on 01/25/2014 12:32:10 PM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Starman417
She is absolutely correct!


12 posted on 01/25/2014 12:52:19 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: Starman417

UN Climate Chief Christiana Figueres is the daughter of a Costa Rican former President (3 times), sister of another CR President and a 1979 graduate of Swathmore College. Her biography is full of international politicking, especially on the ecology and poverty areas. She appears to be full of good intentions!


13 posted on 01/25/2014 1:07:40 PM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: spawn44
Just give us your money and we’ll prove it.

UN bureaucrats always have that hand out for more money.

Based on these charts from tradingeconomics.com on power consumption per capita, my guess is that the Chinese are staying warm in the winter by burning gas or firewood, and my money is on firewood:

Note that the Chinese figures include huge amounts of industrial power usage to produce the things we no longer make stateside (except for specialty applications like military equipment, one-off custom prototypes, etc), for cost reasons, like hammers, nuts and bolts, computer motherboards and so on.

14 posted on 01/25/2014 1:11:37 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Starman417
Depends on what your definition of "Best" is.
Capitalist owned factories spewing smoke = bad.
Collectively owned factories spewing smoke = good. A.k.a. Progress.

15 posted on 01/25/2014 1:19:33 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Starman417

Well, anthropogenic global warming is a figment of the left’s imagination, so I don’t know about effectiveness of Communists “fighting” it, but if Christiana is referring to Communists being good at reducing energy consumption, she is correct. There’s no better system than Communism for keeping its citizens poor, hungry, cold, dwelling in cramped, crowed, dirty and dark housing, and bereft of goods, services and medical care. An economy to support such people requires very little energy.


16 posted on 01/25/2014 2:27:47 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Zhang Fei

>>Germany’s population density is 593 per sq mile vs China’s 365. However, I’d say it’s a good bet that no one in Berlin burns firewood for heat or culinary purposes, whereas in China, those who don’t are probably the exception<<

LOL. Ironically, Berliners doesn’t burn firewood because they inherited a Soviet style centralized steam heahing system.
In the West burning wood for heat is pretty common to cut on electricity and natgas. Me personally witnessed tons of firewood in backyards of quite opulent Munich neighborhoods and I’ve seen their stoves too.


17 posted on 01/25/2014 6:24:56 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
In the West burning wood for heat is pretty common to cut on electricity and natgas. Me personally witnessed tons of firewood in backyards of quite opulent Munich neighborhoods and I’ve seen their stoves too.

Their stoves are presumably a little less crude and less smog-prone than those of a poor country with 1/7 the GDP per capita.

18 posted on 01/25/2014 7:43:04 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

>>Their stoves are presumably a little less crude and less smog-prone than those of a poor country with 1/7 the GDP per capita. <<

In fact wood burning techniques hasn’t dramatically advanced through ages. Thus some stoves are a little bit more efficient than the others it doesn’t affect the way it pollutes the environment. Also German house is usually larger and it takes more wood to keep it warm. It fact that makes a stove to smoke above average and also consume significantly more fuel is a wet firewood.


19 posted on 01/25/2014 7:56:04 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
In fact wood burning techniques hasn’t dramatically advanced through ages. Thus some stoves are a little bit more efficient than the others it doesn’t affect the way it pollutes the environment. Also German house is usually larger and it takes more wood to keep it warm. It fact that makes a stove to smoke above average and also consume significantly more fuel is a wet firewood.

I have no idea what home sizes in Germany are like, but Chinese homes are fairly large, outside of city centers - smaller than average American and Canadian homes, but bigger than average British homes. This is reflected in population densities - Beijing's is around 6000 people per sq mile vs Berlin's 9000. I think people have the erroneous impression that China consists of 1.2b people in an area the size of France or Germany, when it is roughly the size of all the EU countries put together, and slightly larger than the US.

20 posted on 01/25/2014 8:58:20 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

>>I think people have the erroneous impression that China consists of 1.2b people in an area the size of France or Germany, when it is roughly the size of all the EU countries put together, and slightly larger than the US<<

I don’t think many people are that ignorant but still some places in China are overcrowded.


21 posted on 01/25/2014 9:10:20 PM PST by cunning_fish
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