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Aide: Political Logic of Angering GOP Base Over Immigration So Close to Midterm Election "Baffling"
Reaganite Republican ^ | 25 January 2014 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/25/2014 11:07:39 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

"Do we really want to just give up the midterms like this?"


If you thought the poorly-skippered GOP ship was already way, way out there -cast adrift far from what most anybody I know is calling for-  yet still expected them to at least 'play' conservative (and say stuff that actual conservatives like to hear) in the run-up to this year's 2014 midterms, you'd have been right on the first point... but wrong on the second.

See, the RINO-corporatists that run the Republican Party today have dropped all pretense of giving a rat's ass what you think... they've actually come right out and told us they and their crony-capitalist allies will spend million$ just to shut us the hell up

Not only do they not want to deal with -nor hear a peep- from the right anymore, Boehner/McConnell/Rove et. a. are making it abundantly clear through their actions and words that they don't even want Tea Party default votes (cast with a clothes pin on our nose)... because if they succeed in ramming-through the new RINObama pseudo-amnesty plan they and the Chamber of Commerce are all jazzed about, conservatives are going to shun this party in droves- staying home on Election Day just like they did(n't) for Romney, and then some.

But there are a few principled constitutional conservatives around these days, and they -along with anybody else in the House interested in maintaining the US of A as a viable concept- are quietly putting an alternative plan/defense in place that would stop John Boehner's threatened scheme for immigration reform -one reportedly far to the left of anything Republicans have proposed previously- and offer a sensible alternative -with nothing like amnesty- instead:

Breitbart- ...conservative critics of Speaker John Boehner's planned immigration push are working to issue their own rival immigration principles to vie with the document Boehner is drafting. “There is definitely a growing mood of confusion and aggravation among conservatives in the House over the immigration issue right now,” 

The building backlash could create for a tumultuous 3-day retreat next week as Republicans gather in Maryland to plan the party's future. Upping the pressure, a key outside conservative today requested access to the retreat to brief lawmakers on the issue. 

Top GOP officials, meanwhile, are becoming bolder in their embrace of immigration reform. House Budget Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) emerged Thursday to discuss how House GOP leadership plans to bring immigration legislation to the floor, while on House Majority Whip Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA)--the third highest House GOP leadership official--endorsed "legal status" for illegal aliens on Wednesday. 

At a recent Tea Party convention in S Carolina, conservative lawmakers expressed anger at Boehner's plan to push immigration reform after opponents seemed to stave off the effort last year.

 “I don't know why in the world House Republicans would move on immigration legislation in 2014,” said Representative Jeff Duncan of S Carolina. 

Representative Jim Bridenstine of Oklahoma said securing the border is a far more urgent priority than discussing the citizenship of illegal aliens in the U.S. because of the savage violence at the border.

“We have on the border of the United States 100,000 dead bodies just south of our border,” Bridenstine said. “We focus on Syria because that’s where the president wants to focus, while we have a crisis on our own southern border. And it’s because we have an insecure border.”

Let's hope this madness from the Gee Oh Pee establishment can be stopped-dead in it's tracks... because with any substantial legalization of 
millions of 3rd-world immigrants, Republicans can kiss the Oval Office goodbye until the Sun goes supernova...


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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boehner; gopamnesty; house; immigration; randnesty

1 posted on 01/25/2014 11:07:39 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: AdvisorB; ken5050; sten; paythefiddler; gattaca; bayliving; SeminoleCounty; chesley; Vendome; ...

***ping***


2 posted on 01/25/2014 11:08:21 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

The GOP are very scared that they will win big in 2014 ,so they will try to sabotage themselves as mush as they can ,because THEY HATE BEING IN CHARGE


3 posted on 01/25/2014 11:11:12 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: molson209

Never underestimate The Stupid Party... which is closely affiliated with Monty Python’s Silly Party, apparently


4 posted on 01/25/2014 11:12:30 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: molson209

Exactly. The GOPers have become experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Not very bright.


5 posted on 01/25/2014 11:13:12 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Boehner-Romney-McConnell-Rove-McCain are the GOP
and continue to keep the border open,
continue to coverup crime both foreign and domestic,
and have nothing in common with any conservative.


6 posted on 01/25/2014 11:14:14 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: molson209

That was to be ‘you can NEVER underestimate the Stupid Party’ (Gee Oh Pee)


7 posted on 01/25/2014 11:14:37 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Best way to handle this is the way businesses handle management

Businesses fire employees every day when business goes south...whether or not it was the specific employees doing

Put such on House members. “Even if you vote against Amnesty...I will vote against you if it passes”

Require leadership from your representative. They will not fight if they are not expected to lead


8 posted on 01/25/2014 11:14:46 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Reaganite Republican

There is a part of the GOP for a strong America.

However there is an equally strong segment which would gladly crush American strength for the sake of their own profit.

The democrats have no “strong America” segment. So the democrats do not offer a solution, but the crush American strength Republicans are every bit as bad for America, and they are unfortunately in control right now.

America has no party currently in favor of a strong America.

Sure the Republicans are for a currently high defense budget, but are meanwhile sending American jobs to China.

We need a party to KEEP America the strongest SOB on the block.

Neither party is currently just for America.

America first.


9 posted on 01/25/2014 11:18:11 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Too many GOPers are taking "advice" from pundits and consultants who'd have them believe that you have to be more like (D) in order to win elections.

10 posted on 01/25/2014 11:19:52 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Reaganite Republican

They are conflicted about what to do because their corporate masters want amnesty and to increase the flow of illegals into the country.


11 posted on 01/25/2014 11:20:46 AM PST by Arthurio
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To: molson209

Imagine the Republicans spending tens of millions of dollars running against conservatism

and then we will lambasted as “letting Democrats win” if we refuse to vote for these nut jobs


12 posted on 01/25/2014 11:22:13 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Piss poor and gutlessly stupid people passing as “leadership”. Nothing “baffling” about it...


13 posted on 01/25/2014 11:22:49 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

au contraire, mon amie.
Republican leadership is aligned with statists and socialists in a combined effort to bring down constitutional government and the economy. They have no interest in opposing the Democrat party. Their sole interest is maintaining their status quo. They are as much the enemy of the republic as are progressives. There is no other logical explanation for their attempts to destroy the influence of patriots.


14 posted on 01/25/2014 11:24:12 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
The Pubs get huge money from the Chamber of Commerce members. The Chamber members want legalized cheap labor. They can deduct the cost of labor with legalization and they can find people willing to do the work with legalization.

The problem isn't the labor pool. The problem is there is no incentive for people to change their behavior and work for less than what they believe they are worth because the "nanny state" will take care of them. I don't see the welfare state changing and creating the need for people to find work by reducing or eliminating benefits.

I think the GOP-e is just trying to position itself as a partner with the Rats rather than a noble alternative.

15 posted on 01/25/2014 11:25:14 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Common Sense 101

Can’t stand Boehner and company, Rove is always wrong about everything yet still is on Fox frequently.

Nothing from these people have worked, yet they keep saying the same thing, Boehner is Speaker because of the Tea Party yet he blasts them. EGAD, get rid of him.


16 posted on 01/25/2014 11:26:03 AM PST by Burlem
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To: molson209

I get solicitations from the Republican Senatorial Campaign, and from Speaker John Boehner on behalf of the Republican National Congressional Committee, with a prepaid envelope and a long questionnaire, and I respond the same way every time, stating that I do not believe they even CARE what I think, they are fighting against the T.E.A. party far more vigorously than ever they would fight a Democrat, and fire it right back to them (not with a contribution).

I do support individual Republican races, even some that seem hopeless (yes, I supported Sharron Angle against Harry Reid), if only because every dollar Harry Reid had to spend defending his seat, was one less dollar he has to share out with somebody else whom I do not like in the least.

Do not feed the beast, or at least, do not feed the wrong one.


17 posted on 01/25/2014 11:26:10 AM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Nothing “baffling” about it. They're not stupid. They are compromised, and just want to stay in the country club. Witness Speaker of House John Boehner’s comments on Jay Leno's program earlier this week. He's not about to give up what's really important to HIM (cigs and booze) just to run for President. He and his colleagues have lost all regard for the American people. They just want to stay in the club...and keep all those dirty emails, videos, and questionable finances from being made public.
18 posted on 01/25/2014 11:29:41 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Reaganite Republican

This presupposes the GOP is smart. They aren’t.


19 posted on 01/25/2014 11:34:59 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: GeronL
and then we will lambasted as “letting Democrats win” if we refuse to vote for these nut jobs

I stuck with them for a lot of years, including McCain & Romney.

Now that the damage is done and I see that they exempted themselves from obamacare (giving themselves and their staffs special subsidies) I will only contribute to Tea Party supported candidates and I will not vote for anyone who is not a Tea Party supported candidate.

20 posted on 01/25/2014 11:35:36 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Reaganite Republican

Is it (baffling)? They know that most of us would never vote for the crazies & we’ll vote because we don’t dare not vote. They get to suck up all the perks & the corruption, either way. (They’ll just go to work for lobbyists if they get voted out. Or retire, handsomely)

We need new, *conservative* people if we have to drag them in off the street.


21 posted on 01/25/2014 11:51:59 AM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Bttt


22 posted on 01/25/2014 11:52:01 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Reaganite Republican

Bttt


23 posted on 01/25/2014 11:52:02 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Reaganite Republican

Some of you have already walked away from the GOP. If these hacks pass
amnesty, that will be the last straw. Tens of millions of conservatives
will walk away from the GOP for good.


24 posted on 01/25/2014 11:56:27 AM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Dialing for $$$.


25 posted on 01/25/2014 12:16:27 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: tennmountainman

“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” (David Rockefeller, p. 405

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” — David Rockefeller - New World Order globalist

“Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective – a New World Order – can emerge. . . Now, we can see a New World Order coming into view. A world in which there is a very real prospect for a New World Order. . .A world where the United Nations, freed from a Cold War stalemate, is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders.” — George H. W. Bush told the U.N. on September 11th 1990


26 posted on 01/25/2014 12:21:35 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

The Rebuttlickin Party has never been, is not now, and never will be the natural home for conservatism. There had been odd moments, namely the Coolidge and Reagan Administrations, where they were congenial to conservatism, but not much any other time.


27 posted on 01/25/2014 12:21:47 PM PST by crusher (GREEN: Globaloney for the Gullible)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Tellin it like it is. I am sending my rep an email with similar sentiments that he needs to pass on to Boehner and his merry band of RINO sellouts at that retreat.


28 posted on 01/25/2014 12:26:51 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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29 posted on 01/25/2014 12:33:32 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: tennmountainman
Some of you have already walked away from the GOP. If these hacks pass amnesty, that will be the last straw.

The GOP as a party has already died. The parting of ways between conservatives/patriots and Republicans is all over but the crying. I live in California. When it comes to the war of ideas, I have taken a different tack in recent years: when I talk to Democrat voters, I tell them that Republican voters are abandoning the GOP at record rates because the GOP no longer represents the conservative base. Then I tell them (and none of this is BS - it's all true) that the Democrats have also abandoned their liberal base. None of the Democrat Party members are for greater freedom or defense of ANY values - they are for the power of the government, but the Democrat voters are lagging behind the conservative voters in figuring out that their party has betrayed them.
30 posted on 01/25/2014 12:49:44 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Reaganite Republican

When the republicans become such a minor party, what will Rove do for a living? His services will not be needed by either party.


31 posted on 01/25/2014 12:57:04 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Reaganite Republican

Ahhhh the wonders of having a nice fat NSA file on one’s political enemies....


32 posted on 01/25/2014 12:57:16 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: crusher
The [Republican, come on] Party has never been, is not now, and never will be the natural home for conservatism. There had been odd moments, namely the Coolidge and Reagan Administrations, where they were congenial to conservatism, but not much any other time.

I would agree, but only because I think that political parties, themselves, are antithetical to American conservatism. Somoe of the Founding Fathers warned against them from the beginning. Eventually, it always becomes about the power of the party rather than the people they serve.
33 posted on 01/25/2014 12:58:39 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Reaganite Republican; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

34 posted on 01/25/2014 12:59:03 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Even if you vote against amnesty, I will vote against you if it passes

I agree with you; that has to be our attitude. Why? It would've only taken 17 (or so) conservative votes to stop Boehner from being Speaker again. If the numbers of HOR reps that were elected to stop the invasion of the US couldn't do that, there are only two possilities. Either they have no leadership or they're frauds.

I wouldn't be astounded if the puppet masters who are trying to keep control of the Republican Party haven't decided that they'd rather lose control of the HOR than to support constitutional conservative principles.

35 posted on 01/25/2014 12:59:18 PM PST by grania
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To: null and void

the GOP now a days seems to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory


36 posted on 01/25/2014 1:03:14 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Reaganite Republican

It does not matter. The payoffs are good and they still get retirement and health care.


37 posted on 01/25/2014 1:09:36 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I don’t think that they will do anything on immigration except maybe border security & e-verify as starting points (throw in Dream ACT).


38 posted on 01/25/2014 1:09:39 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: VerySadAmerican

~~~what will Rove do for a living?~~~

Manage a buffet somewhere?


39 posted on 01/25/2014 1:25:30 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: null and void

They’re stupid. Stupid beyond belief.

OTOH, they just may want to get their offshore bank accounts filled before this whole turkey goes down and they retire elsewhere.

Just selling out the America that American’s won’t sell out.


40 posted on 01/25/2014 1:44:26 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: null and void

The Mexican government probably knows all about Boehner’s and McCarthy’s skeletons, whatever they might be.


41 posted on 01/25/2014 1:50:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
42 posted on 01/25/2014 2:03:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Reaganite Republican

They don’t call it the STUPID Party for nothing.


43 posted on 01/25/2014 6:18:19 PM PST by jch10 (John Beohner has got to be removed from the Speaker position.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

It’s not baffling at all. All you need to do is read my tag line and it all becomes quite clear.


44 posted on 01/25/2014 10:05:14 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I don’t think they are stupid . I think we don’t know something they know,which is scarier.


45 posted on 01/26/2014 5:51:45 AM PST by autumnraine
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