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Arizona-California Border crossing on I-10
Vanity | 1/26/14 | Vanity

Posted on 01/26/2014 5:56:07 PM PST by Michael.SF.

Please excuse the vanity.

I am wondering two things in regards to this, as noted below.

First, what occurred:

Traveling from Phoenix to LA on Friday we noticed the back up to the border crossing (usually used for fruit questions) was at least 2 miles long for those entering Arizona. On our return today, the line was maybe ½ mile and we were delayed 15-20 minutes.

This by itself is a rare occurrence as usually the delay (if any) is brief. We have done this 12-15 times in past 5 years or so. Here is the unusual part:

30-40 cars, trucks and busses representing: Border patrol, CHP, Arizona Highway patrol, also including use of service dogs and what may have been national guard or Homeland security. Also unusual was the number of various official vehicles (Jeeps/Cars) parked on the side of the road or on the median monitoring and watching traffic.

Question for fellow Freeper’s:

1) Is this occurring on other state crossings?
2) Is this occurring on other Az. Crossings (I-8, I-40) or from New Mexico on same routes?
3) How long has this been going on (we crossed last at Thanksgiving and saw nothing)?


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1 posted on 01/26/2014 5:56:07 PM PST by Michael.SF.
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To: Michael.SF.

Never heard of them at state lines.


2 posted on 01/26/2014 5:59:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Michael.SF.

At thanksgiving, crossing into CA at Yuma, the fruit question stop was closed. Otherwise all was normal!


3 posted on 01/26/2014 6:01:05 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic but will he?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Most likely official escorts for newest illegal (soon to be legal) democrat voters...


4 posted on 01/26/2014 6:01:50 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Michael.SF.

Sounds unusual.


5 posted on 01/26/2014 6:03:00 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Shipmement from the Sinaloa Cartel on it’s way to Colorado. /s


6 posted on 01/26/2014 6:05:10 PM PST by csvset
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To: Michael.SF.
VIPER?
7 posted on 01/26/2014 6:09:50 PM PST by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: Michael.SF.

I would think that it is very, very unusual. I cross into California from Nevada several times a year for shopping trips, doctor appointments etc., and have never seen anything like that. One minute wait tops, if even that.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 6:10:39 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Michael.SF.

An abnormal number of nuts and flakes were coming in from California, confusing the fruit inspectors.


9 posted on 01/26/2014 6:11:01 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I-40 at the NM state line is usually closed when I go by.


10 posted on 01/26/2014 6:13:19 PM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Michael.SF.
Probably a MSM publicity stunt to help Obama.

Obama has been pretending that he deports illegal immigrants.

He does this by reporting the number of illegals turned back or detained at the border, which no other administration has ever reported before.

They probably busted a bunch of illegals in a camper, and “Sheriff” Obama will get a front page story tomorrow in the L.A. Times.

11 posted on 01/26/2014 6:15:43 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: mabarker1
Thank you. I was not aware of this and that certainly looks like the logical answer.

This was a big effort on their part.

12 posted on 01/26/2014 6:18:46 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: cripplecreek
Have only seen this at the AZ and CA crossing, and that was back in the 80's when I was attending grad school in AZ. It was a brief stop to check for people carrying in fruit and vegetables and was a State Dept. of Ag operation, if memory serves. So at that location and no doubt others between CA and its neighbors a stop of some kind is normal.

But this sounds more like they're looking for something (or someone) a bit more menacing than bug infested fruit.

13 posted on 01/26/2014 6:21:39 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Michael.SF.

I went through the I8 stop at Boulevard, Ca and I was surprised that two lanes were open and it took a minute at most.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 6:22:34 PM PST by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Michael.SF.

Your new DHS Commie sar was touring the border. He was in the valley also. He is inspecting the gates to make sure they open all the way!


15 posted on 01/26/2014 6:24:56 PM PST by Bibman (Tea Party since 1976)
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To: Michael.SF.

I drove in to AZ from CA at the same I 10 crossing Fri jan 18 late afternoon and saw the same thing..very long lines going in to CA..ive done this crossing at least a hundred times in the last 5 years ..this is not normal...but this the first time ive done the drive in a year .... so can not say how long it has been going on


16 posted on 01/26/2014 6:25:20 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: tophat9000

Correction I acossed Fri Jan 11


17 posted on 01/26/2014 6:29:32 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Welcome

They are allover so I have read. TN was the 1st place I read about. Haven’t seen any in NC but where I’m at traffic is F’d up enough without any “we are from the govt and here to help” help!!!

Supposed to be at most Major sporting events soon.

Just more 4th A violations & conditioning of the sheeples.


18 posted on 01/26/2014 6:29:40 PM PST by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: Michael.SF.

I think you are really dumb.

You didn’t recognize a Demonrat voter registration out reach?


19 posted on 01/26/2014 6:32:44 PM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Michael.SF.

Am guessing it is a one time thing. Usually the back up is entering California. CA has to ensure no one brings any contraband fruit into the state. Marijuana okay. Apples no.


20 posted on 01/26/2014 6:33:09 PM PST by BAW ("If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Period.")
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To: Michael.SF.

Gosh I never heard of being stopped at the California border LEAVING the state for ag purposes. They usually don’t care what you take out. Coming back into California on the other hand is a different story all together.

Have no clue as to what they were looking for or why


21 posted on 01/26/2014 6:36:24 PM PST by Nifster
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To: tophat9000
Thanks. That means on at least three days: Jan 18, 24 and 26th, this has occurred.

I suspect that this has to do with the ongoing feud between the administration and the state of Arizona.

22 posted on 01/26/2014 6:39:50 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: x1stcav

LOL


23 posted on 01/26/2014 6:41:39 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: mabarker1; Michael.SF.
Interesting excerpts from your link:

The VIPR teams detain and search travelers…
In early 2011, a TSA VIPR detained and patted down people at an Amtrak station in Savannah, Georgia.
The incident became controversial because …officers were screening passengers as they were getting off trains, presumably after potential terrorists had detonated their explosives.

But, of course, there were no terrorists and no explosives were detonated.

Amtrak Police Chief John O'Connor described the TSA behavior as illegal, in violation of Amtrak policy, and simply nonsensical. The incident led Amtrak to temporarily ban VIPR teams from Amtrak property.
One wonders how Amtrak could deny the activity if it was clearly legal?

The GAO says VIPR was prompted by the 2004 Madrid train bombings.
Spain, of course, has nothing similar to the US Constitution.

24 posted on 01/26/2014 6:47:45 PM PST by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot" now. How and when will we real Americans jump out?)
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To: Michael.SF.

CA - AZ border story..... When I was 13 in ‘64 my high school
teac her dad won a fellowship to study @ U of MD so we left
CA to live in Prince Georges Co for a year. We took a southern
route coming home in ‘65. We reached AZ/CA border outside
of Needles about 3AM. I woke up to hear my dad and the bug
inspector laughing and joking. Went on for 20 minutes or so
and the 2 exhanged addresses. Turns out they were childhood
friends from a little farm town in NorCal. The guy had thru school
with one of pop’s brothers. The guy never asked about what we
were bringing into the state.


25 posted on 01/26/2014 6:57:02 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: 2banana

Or practicing for not letting US citizens depart.


26 posted on 01/26/2014 7:00:17 PM PST by bgill
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To: Sivad

Amazing coincidence!


27 posted on 01/26/2014 7:03:59 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: frog in a pot; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
VIPR, yeah, that's the ticket...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

28 posted on 01/26/2014 7:12:05 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: katana

“Have only seen this at the AZ and CA crossing, and that was back in the 80’s when I was attending grad school in AZ. It was a brief stop to check for people carrying in fruit and vegetables and was a State Dept. of Ag operation, if memory serves. So at that location and no doubt others between CA and its neighbors a stop of some kind is normal.”

There was a similar Ag inspection station on I-5 just south of the Oregon border in the 80’s.


29 posted on 01/26/2014 7:23:54 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Michael.SF.

actually I was mistaken it was the 11th not the 18th that I crossed so this is been going on for a while


30 posted on 01/26/2014 7:27:01 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Hmm. I live in CA but haven’t had to go through those checkpoints in about a year. They tend to concentrate on importation of fruit and vegetables.

I haven’t read that anything is “up” but that is a bit unusual.


31 posted on 01/26/2014 7:27:03 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Sivad

truth is in the all the times Ive crossed I’ve never been stopping questioned once, just always flagged through


32 posted on 01/26/2014 7:30:18 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Michael.SF.
I suspect that this has to do with the ongoing feud between the administration and the state of Arizona.

So Obama can cause massive traffic jams but Christie can't?

33 posted on 01/26/2014 7:33:29 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: BAW

Stopped one time many years ago entering California. Inspector was obviously of Mexican origin/descent. Looking for oranges. We had some that originated in California. He took ‘em. Later on in a grocery store in LA we saw oranges from Mexico. What is this $hit all about? California hardly has any orange groves left to protect...all turned into housing/commercial developments. California is just one of several states that can go to hell...if they are not already there.

We crossed on I-40 into and out of California in August, 2013, and no delays. Just breezed through.


34 posted on 01/26/2014 7:39:19 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Michael.SF.

I crossed Wed. about 3 in the afternoon and there was no delay at all. I have never been stopped coming into Arizona, only going into California. Lately there has not even been anybody in the booth though, make the stop at stop sign and continue on. I did notice a line of cars and something similar to what you were describing when I left Arizona back on the 7th and I was wondering what was going on also, because as I said, I have never had to stop coming into Arizona, but always going into California from Arizona or Oregon on any route.


35 posted on 01/26/2014 7:40:20 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: BAW

I’m expecting searches for guns and/or ammo.

Would not be surprised to have lisc. plate data available from gun shop or gun show purchase.


36 posted on 01/26/2014 8:08:46 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: null and void

And the beat (down) goes on


37 posted on 01/26/2014 8:42:08 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Michael.SF.

Cal. is trying to catch people who haven’t paid state exit fees.


38 posted on 01/26/2014 8:42:20 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: AzNASCARfan

Your comments confirm my experiences. That is why this was so strange.


39 posted on 01/26/2014 9:05:50 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Medflies.

They were (are?) concerned about backyard citrus coming through.

That is a legitimate concern

40 posted on 01/26/2014 9:07:48 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Yes. Going from Flag to my brother’s in CA the presence of official vehicles was massive and the delay lengthy last June. That was on the west bound I-40 on the CA side heading into Needles.


41 posted on 01/26/2014 10:07:00 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Michael.SF.

I was drunk posting last night.

I reread my post and the humor on my part was a little rough.

Glad you detected the sarcasm.


42 posted on 01/27/2014 3:32:55 AM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: frog in a pot

But, but- it’s for the Chilrenz!!!


43 posted on 01/27/2014 4:21:32 AM PST by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: Michael.SF.

Ever since the Jerry Brown Revolution in California, there have been a large number if illegal aliens (Californians) entering Arizona. This is just an attempt to stop them.


44 posted on 01/27/2014 4:34:46 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: tophat9000
truth is in the all the times Ive crossed I’ve never been stopping questioned once, just always flagged through


If you drive a van or a large SUV through you do get briefly stopped almost every time for them to get a quick look in the back.

45 posted on 01/27/2014 7:32:28 AM PST by az_gila
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To: Michael.SF.

I reported this from April 2013

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3026405/posts?page=45#45


46 posted on 01/27/2014 10:04:31 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W
Passports?

Who travels between states with a passport?

47 posted on 01/27/2014 11:21:52 AM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Mom and I are Canadian. We always keep them on our person, just in case.


48 posted on 01/27/2014 11:35:34 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

Thanks for clearing that up. Passports under those circumstances is not an unreasonable request.


49 posted on 01/27/2014 12:28:58 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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