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Failing Education: The True Cause Of Income Inequality
Cutting Through The Fog ^ | January 27, 2014 | George B

Posted on 01/28/2014 9:57:17 PM PST by Petro

Failing Education: The True Cause Of Income Inequality

This year -- an election year -- Obama and the Democrats think they have a winning issue in proposing spending measures and legislation that would fight income inequality. For any Democrat, the rallying cry to getting those measures passed and, subsequently, getting themselves elected (or reelected), will be that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer; and, that they are the ones watching out for the poor while the Republicans only want to protect the rich. Thus, we will be going back to the 2008 campaign when Obama told "Joe the Plumber" that we need to "spread the wealth around."

However, the real reason that we have income inequality in this country has to do with something that the Democrats are completely complicit in: Sustaining a failing and highly unionized educational system for the sole purpose of garnering union votes. It is actually the level of someone's education that determines whether or not a person will be able to share in the wealth of this country and not a bunch of Democrat-sponsored "band aids" such as raising the minimum wage, or extending unemployment benefits, or whatever. There is no better proof of that than this chart:

(Excerpt) Read more at cuttingthroughthefog.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: education; incomeinequality; obama; poverty

1 posted on 01/28/2014 9:57:17 PM PST by Petro
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To: Petro

Sorry, but that’s not the reason... the fact is that some people are just smarter than others.


2 posted on 01/28/2014 10:07:07 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene; Petro

Here’s one view of mine:

Some kids just don’t take initiative. The school is supposed to teach, but at some point the student has to start working towards their own future. They should be going to the library more often, using the books and resources there, or going to various other libraries and doing research. You can’t just sit around and let the teachers decide what information you’re going to be getting out of life.

Some students do well in high school, but fail later because out of all they learned from the teachers, they failed to learn initiative and failed to expand their horizons intellectually in regards to teaching themselves. Taking initiative is what will determine success in any way that anyone can define it. Students who were stars in school mess up in real life because real life isn’t about sitting back and having people give the information to you.

Resourcefulness is another issue; if you don’t learn to make do and use what you have, you’ll never go anywhere. A lot of people oddly think that you shouldn’t try to run a business or do something practical if you don’t’ ave a degree.


3 posted on 01/28/2014 10:21:31 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

As long as there is ambition inequality, there will be income inequality.


4 posted on 01/28/2014 10:24:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: CorporateStepsister

” A lot of people oddly think that you shouldn’t try to run a business or do something practical if you don’t’ ave a degree.”

I don’t think I know anyone who thinks that....


5 posted on 01/28/2014 10:27:18 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

They have to dumb down the kids so they will vote Democrat!!!


6 posted on 01/28/2014 10:27:43 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

“They have to dumb down the kids so they will vote Democrat!!!”

How can anyone be “drummed down” in this day and age. You can find out more than you want, from botany to quantum physics with a few mouse clicks...


7 posted on 01/28/2014 10:34:03 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Petro
In the late 1980s, I had a neighbor who taught high school science classes. One year she showed me textbooks, which were glorious, full color productions, nothing like the stodgy texts of my youth. (We were still using Latin textbooks from the 1930, which had been through multiple re-bindings over the last 3 decades.)

She was teaching what purported to be college prep level classes. Before a test, she would go over the material that was supposed to be fair game for testing; she said the outcome was predictable: there would be on B in the class, a handful of Cs, and the rest would get Ds and Fs. She practically handed out the answers, but unmotivated people are not going to deliver, no matter how slick the books and how the teacher spoon feeds the material.

Facilities do not make the student. My schools were all basic buildings with nothing particularly glitzy, nothing like the palaces I saw when I took short night courses in other locations.

If the student is unmotivated and the parents do not push, no one should be shocked at bare literacy at "graduation." At some point, well before junior high, one should understand that one is responsible for personal academic outcomes...
8 posted on 01/28/2014 10:36:35 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta

“You can lead a horse to water...”


9 posted on 01/28/2014 10:38:39 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: babygene

The problem in schools starts in kindergarten. They cripple the children with whole word reading instruction, making functional illiterates out of most of the average IQ kids and all of the below average ones.

You can’t read to learn if you haven’t learned to read.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 10:42:38 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: babygene

““They have to dumb down the kids so they will vote Democrat!!!”

How can anyone be “drummed down” in this day and age. You can find out more than you want, from botany to quantum physics with a few mouse clicks...”

well that depends. you can find “facts” everywhere now. not to digress, but when I grew up in the 70’s if you were hanging on the street corner and someone asked you a question, there was no cell phone to call anyone, no cable news to go home to, no computer and internet to look it up when you got home. the only place to find anything out was a book or reason it out for yourself.
now, its at their finger tips. however, you can’t “look up”, ambition, integrity, and the ability to realize the public schools are brainwashing you.
my 19 year old niece goes to umass Amherst and she lectured her 85 year old grandpa on the joys of homosexuality. I said, dad, too bad ted kennedys dead or else you could keep voting for him. happy now?


11 posted on 01/28/2014 10:46:40 PM PST by willywill
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To: Nepeta
She practically handed out the answers, but unmotivated people are not going to deliver, no matter how slick the books and how the teacher spoon feeds the material.

Reminds me of a Lombardi story. One of his players, a lineman I think, got named All Pro, much to his own surprise. In his own words, "I thought I stank."

12 posted on 01/28/2014 10:50:33 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: babygene

Yeah, but you’ve got to take the initiative to make those clicks yourself. Your mouse won’t click to access all of that information on its own.


13 posted on 01/28/2014 10:55:18 PM PST by Bob
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To: dfwgator

Exactly; for some reason ambition, professional ambition has become something to be ashamed of and that people should just stay in their places.


14 posted on 01/28/2014 10:55:34 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: dfwgator

How much do you have to pay an adult to tell a six year old how to add 2+2? They don’t need a college degree. The teacher, that is, oh exxcuuusee me. THE EDUCATOR!! Or equator or equilateral pointy thing.

And how often do you hear that the kids don’t come prepared for school?

If they already KNOW how to add, what exactly are you needed for? Referee?

You need a Masters Degree and six years of college to teach a child the difference between red and blue? Assuming they may not be color blind. In which case you get bonus points for doing what you should do anyway.

Why?

Because you had years as an adult to plumb the mystical depths of coloring books that the YUNUNS DINT HAAV?

Critical thinking. BaaD. Time out for you. After you see the nurse along with the other unprepared malcontents.

Now you are betterrrr. Butterfly sticker for you to take home.


15 posted on 01/28/2014 11:01:35 PM PST by glyptol
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To: glyptol

You seem a little unhinged. Is something in particular bothering you?


16 posted on 01/28/2014 11:19:11 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Petro

All of a sudden Obama is touting equality of opportunity after abandoning the concept in favor of outcome based education in 2008.

How can he he do an about face and expect people not to notice?

Education is the great equalizer, but the student must be motivated to take advantage of the opportunities that are presented. That is the reason that the progressives switched to outcome based education, they felt that white children had an unfair advantage in motivation that was rooted in historic White privilege.

The fact is that the Progressives destroyed the motivation of students in the poor urban communities when they destroyed their self respect.


17 posted on 01/28/2014 11:28:34 PM PST by Eva
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To: babygene
How can anyone be “drummed down” in this day and age.


18 posted on 01/29/2014 12:34:11 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Petro

Just as we have an IQ gap, we have an income gap. It’s that simple.


19 posted on 01/29/2014 12:47:21 AM PST by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN '66-'67)
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To: Petro

Wrong


20 posted on 01/29/2014 1:34:50 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: dfwgator

There you go...


21 posted on 01/29/2014 1:35:28 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Petro

public education today is poorer than in the past.

compounding it is so many in public schools don’t care about their own education.


22 posted on 01/29/2014 1:39:14 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: babygene

True enough. Gumption helps too. Henry Ford never graduated from high school


23 posted on 01/29/2014 1:50:01 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Petro
Failing Education: The True Cause Of Income Inequality

Nonsense.

The cause of income inequality is human inequality. Individuals, and group medians, vary widely in various gifts and talents.

The resulting effects are quite apparent.

24 posted on 01/29/2014 2:02:57 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Petro
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the idea that poor students are the results of unionized schools is a myth. Speaking as a conservative, the student and his or her family is far more important in determining the academic success of the student than the school or the teachers at the school. Read Robert Weissberg's "Bad Students, Not Bad Schools" to get the lowdown.

Conservative pols and pundits have bought into the school choice scam as a panacea for lousy student performance. Charter schools and private/parochial schools were supposed to save everybody. It only works for students with the desire and intelligence to do well. Which leaves out a great percentage of the nation's students. Many students (especially inner city students) are unmotivated, violent, and have low IQs. Plus their parents don't care much or at all how they do in school. School is a babysitting service for those parents.

I'm for school reform as much as any conservative if it means halting the spread of leftist indoctrination and the return to time-honored, American values. But the idea that simply putting every failing student in a charter school or similar educational environment will turn them in the next Einstein or merely a little better student than they were before is hogwash.

25 posted on 01/29/2014 5:16:16 AM PST by driftless2
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To: glyptol

My niece teaches first grade with a “team” of other teachers. They have fancy lesson plans and lots of meetings. Teaching first grade should not be complicated. No wonder kids learn so much more when they are home-schooled.


26 posted on 01/29/2014 5:39:41 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: dfwgator

We must re-think the American educational system—its based on 19th Century concepts—schools are factories of training and they are failing. We need to develope new concepts and ideas to teach the students about life not useless facts that will soon be forgotten. As a former teacher my suggestions are:
1. More class days. We have the shortest calendar of school days in the world! Too much time is spent re-learning what students forget.
2. More classes in life skills—how to fill out an income tax form or ballance a check book—or survive in the world.
3. More training for jobs—last year at school should be Job training for REAL jobs not things that are outdated.
4. More fun and real things for kids to do—and hire the smart kids to help educate the slower ones.
5. Break the back of the Teacher’s Union—its too powerful and not about teaching any more.
6. Drop tenure—Or make it from 2 years to 10. It makes getting rid of the bad apples harder.
7. Make colleges (at least the Jr. Colleges) afforable to all who can make the grade. Don’t lower standars but give all a chance.


27 posted on 01/29/2014 8:00:12 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: dr_lew

dr of what?


28 posted on 01/29/2014 2:23:59 PM PST by glyptol
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To: babygene

Really??? How about not teaching kids United States History or proper English.. Passing kids just to get them out of their class!! Gee I don’t know.. Do kids do book reports anymore? Most kids can’t write long Hand or cursive.. Kids can print but not much else...


29 posted on 01/30/2014 11:24:38 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: babygene

you dumb down the kids like this article!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/commentary-how-we-ended-up-with-a-generation-of-no-discipline-no-talent-job-seekers/2014/01/31/465f99f8-879c-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html


30 posted on 02/06/2014 11:04:40 PM PST by tallyhoe
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