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Local Officials Shut Down 11 Year Old's Cupcake Business as a Threat to Public Health
Yahoo Voices ^ | January 30, 2014 | Mark R. Whittington

Posted on 01/30/2014 3:56:32 AM PST by Marcus

11 year old Chloe Stirling got some great accolades from her local newspaper for the cupcake business she had started out of her parents' kitchen. Unfortunately the local health department took another view and shut her down.

The sticking point was that not only did she lack the proper permits and licenses to run a food business, but according to local and state law she would have to either own her own bakery or have a kitchen separate from that of her parents to continue cooking cupcakes for money. Since this was clearly impossible, Stirling is no longer able to run a business. Thus she has learned at an early age that the biggest obstacle to entrepreneurism consists of government rules and regulations.

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TOPICS: Food; Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; chloestirling; cupcakes; healthdepartment; regulations

1 posted on 01/30/2014 3:56:33 AM PST by Marcus
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To: Marcus

Sons of bitches!


2 posted on 01/30/2014 3:59:44 AM PST by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Marcus

How did we ever survive without the Niagara of regulations and bureaucrat to protect us? In fact, we clearly need even more regulations and government employees to take care of us according to Obama.


3 posted on 01/30/2014 4:01:52 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Marcus

And Yahoo reports this, without a shred of situational awareness of the irony, that THIS IS precisely the kind of activist government that libs at Yahoo crave????


4 posted on 01/30/2014 4:04:28 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Marcus
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Just another example of your gummint at all levels, hard at work...keeping you from working.

5 posted on 01/30/2014 4:07:40 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: Marcus

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6 posted on 01/30/2014 4:10:51 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: petercooper

In a deep demonic voice -

“We will crush you!”

How can you screw up cupcakes?


7 posted on 01/30/2014 4:12:33 AM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: petercooper

The Health Department did the right thing.

Have you ever watched where a kid puts their fingers/hands?

Pick their nose, clean their ear with their finger, pet the dog, scratch their butt, scratch their cat’s butt.....etc.

No thanks, I’ll make my own cupcakes.


8 posted on 01/30/2014 4:13:29 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: All

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9 posted on 01/30/2014 4:18:58 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!!!)
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To: Marcus

MEANWHILE, al Qaeda is armed by Obama with MANPADs and sarin,
and the borders are left open.

MEANWHILE, blacks attack elderly white, Hispanic,
and Asian men and women with impunity all across the USA
because the DO”J” told them to continue after they
demonstrated they would NEVER again enforce the law
equally.


10 posted on 01/30/2014 4:18:58 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Marcus

Give ‘em few more years, the government is going to be demanding to inspect and approve EVERYBODY’S kitchen, regardless of whether you are selling food or not.

If your kitchen isn’t clean enough, they will drag your kids off to a government facility where they can be properly cared for.


11 posted on 01/30/2014 4:19:16 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: panaxanax

And you’re assured in the privacy of restaurant kitchens across America the same thing doesn’t happen, at some level?

I just read about a young woman spitting on a police officer’s pizza before she boxed it up for him.


12 posted on 01/30/2014 4:27:51 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: panaxanax

Pick their nose, clean their ear with their finger, pet the dog, scratch their butt, scratch their cat’s butt.....etc.
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May as well close ALL facilities down.

Don’t you think it strange that a business is forced to put up a sign telling employees to wash their hands after using the head?

Did you never hear the oldie “one will eat a pound of dirt in their lifetime”....

And your last sentence says it all....”No thanks, I’ll make my own cupcakes.”
Which is entirely your right, NO ONE is ‘forcing’ you to buy the cupcakes or lemonade or letting the older young urchins trample on your lawn while mowing it or not allowing them to shovel your snow because you are not sure if your insurance covers you or not.

We can effectively shut out the ‘kids’ from the work force or ‘price them out of business’ BUT we shouldn’t collectively call them lazy and worthless when they don’t even know how to sweep the floor when they are let loose into the world.


13 posted on 01/30/2014 4:28:15 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: Marcus

There are some things one just needs to keep quiet about. Shame on the nanny state for shutting her down.


14 posted on 01/30/2014 4:34:34 AM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

as I sit here drinking a coffee; “I can really go for a cupcake right now”...


15 posted on 01/30/2014 4:37:05 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: panaxanax

You are also FREE TO CHOOSE not to buy. WHY shut it down?


16 posted on 01/30/2014 4:40:39 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: xrmusn

We all know those signs are put up for the benefit of the customer and not the employees.
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“..NO ONE is ‘forcing’ you to buy the cupcakes or lemonade or letting the older young urchins trample on your lawn while mowing it or not allowing them to shovel your snow because you are not sure if your insurance covers you or not.”

“We can effectively shut out the ‘kids’ from the work force or ‘price them out of business’ BUT we shouldn’t collectively call them lazy and worthless when they don’t even know how to sweep the floor when they are let loose into the world.”

You got all that from me saying I’ll make my own cupcakes?

Sounds like you’ve got some serious issues that need immediate attention.


17 posted on 01/30/2014 4:48:15 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: Marcus

Interesting dichotomy how government comes down like an iron hammer to destroy an 11 year-old’s entrepreneurial spirit. This same government would shower her with money if she were pregnant and went on the dole. Big government rewards slave behavior, because big government needs slaves.


18 posted on 01/30/2014 4:53:36 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: Marcus

Can you imagine wherre we would be if the nannies had been around since the beginning of this counrty. We would have gotten nowhere. A people who once braved a conquered a hostile continent now need there hands held to cross the street. If youtrade freedom for security you end up with neither.


19 posted on 01/30/2014 4:56:20 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: panaxanax

Sounds like you’ve got some serious issues
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
Yes I do have some serious issues.
Especially with control freaks.

If YOU don’t want to buy the cupcakes. DON’T!.
If I want to buy ‘em, none of your business.

Like some woman told me the other day.
“I should have the right to an abortion or whatever”.

“YES, you do. You have the right to do ANYTHING you want.
If it is ‘illegal’, pay the price, If it comes to an abortion, go ahead, none of my business -
UNTIL you expect me to pay for it”.

We had a much better existence BEFORE everyone started telling us how much better off we would be if only......


20 posted on 01/30/2014 5:00:05 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: panaxanax
I don't need the Health Department to tell me what to buy or not buy. *I* probably wouldn't eat cupcakes made by random kids because they probably sneezed all over it. BUT, I might BUY cupcakes from random kids trying to make a dollar by being enterprising.

This is what the government's prob is, anyway....can't have young people think they can pull themselves by their bootstraps and make a go of it on their own. Geez! What kind of adult would that be? They wouldn't understand how the government should be in control of everything!

so....nope. Don't need the government to step in. This little cupcake business will run its own course.

21 posted on 01/30/2014 5:04:25 AM PST by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Marcus
...not only did she lack the proper permits and licenses...

This is the real reason she was shut down. They weren't getting their cut. Permits and licenses do nothing to ensure food quality. If they did, we'd never have a problem with a meal in a restaurant, meanwhile home cooked meals would be sending us to the hospital once a month. There is no correlation here, only $.

22 posted on 01/30/2014 5:05:52 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: panaxanax

So when you pass a lemonade stand and a few kids who look no older than about 10 or 11 are behind their rickety counter, you call the local health authorities to get their stand shut down? Can’t have little kids with their dirty fingers trying to sell lemonade or Kool-Aid at ten cents a cup when you could get a vile disease can we?


23 posted on 01/30/2014 5:11:19 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Truth29

We built a great nation without the regulations. With them we can’t even hold on to one.


24 posted on 01/30/2014 5:16:02 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Guenevere

“And you’re assured in the privacy of restaurant kitchens across America the same thing doesn’t happen, at some level?”

Of course it does. Everybody knows that. But if I get sick I can sue the crap out of them.

I nearly died after eating bad scallops at the most expensive upscale restaurant in town. Others were afflicted from the same dinner that night, so the cases were settled immediately.

Don’t try to make me out to be the mean old troll that lives under the bridge and hates little kids because I’d rather eat food prepared in a commercially inspected kitchen. A kitchen that does not get their water from a well drilled 50’ from their septic tank, a kitchen that doesn’t have cats walking on the countertops, a kitchen sink that didn’t have mommy washing little Timmy’s puke off his bib an hour before this little girl did the dishes.

Expend all the spare time you want, but you know I’m right. It’s not about big government shutting down some poor little girl from making a few bucks. It’s about keeping people (little kids included) from getting sick.


25 posted on 01/30/2014 5:28:02 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: driftless2

I usually fire a couple of warning shots over their heads and when they run away in a panic I then pull out my flame-thrower and burn the stand to the ground. After I’ve killed their puppies and strangled their kittens, I generally torch the entire neighborhood.

Grow up and think before you post such nonsense.


26 posted on 01/30/2014 5:36:55 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: Marcus

Obviously Chloe Stirling foolishly believe Traitorobama when he told her, “If you like your cupcake business, you can keep your cupcake business.”

Chloe should be thankful the Gestapo didn’t shoot her dog, murder her mother while she was standing on the porch, burn her house down while trying to break down the door, and place Chloe in a foster home, claiming she had unfit parents.


27 posted on 01/30/2014 5:40:18 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: panaxanax

So don’t buy her f-ing cupcakes!!!!

Why destroy a child who is having fun??!! I may not drink the lemonade I purchased from their stand, but I will sure buy it and make sure I pay extra for their enthusiasm and to encourage them to dream.

Good Lord. When did you just give up on life?


28 posted on 01/30/2014 5:41:07 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: RebelTXRose

“You are also FREE TO CHOOSE not to buy. WHY shut it down?”

You’re right. It is my choice not to eat them. I never said to shut her down. If her kitchen passes a health department inspection for cleanliness then I’m in her corner all the way.


29 posted on 01/30/2014 5:43:11 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: Marcus

I’m sure that while they were busy raiding the 11 year old’s immaculate cupcake kitchen, a half dozen illegal alien tamale wagons cruised by on the sidewalk unmolested by the health department nazis.


30 posted on 01/30/2014 5:44:08 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: panaxanax
The Health Department did the right thing. Have you ever watched where a kid puts their fingers/hands?

I take it you never eat at fast food joints or restaurants.

The signs on the restrooms walls say "lave Los manos", but they never do.

I bet you don't either.

31 posted on 01/30/2014 5:49:37 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: ZinGirl

There are probably only a handful of FReepers here that are more anti-Big Government than I am.

You state that you probably wouldn’t buy a cupcake from random kids that sneezed on them. But you would buy the same cupcake to help them “make a dollar by being enterprising.”

We do the same thing at yard sales. How can you pass up some cute little girl or boy selling cookies? They get fed to our dog when we get home. I’m sure that now I’ll get attacked by dog-lovers for not caring about our pet’s health.

Anyway, thank you for the mature response to my suggestion that there does need to be reasonable health rules & regulations when selling food to the public.

I wonder if the people that chastised me for my thoughts would cringe if their doctor used the same gloves that they used on the patient before them? Or a used syringe? Or the doctor pulled out a big bugger from his nose, wiped it on his pants and then wanted to look in their throat?


32 posted on 01/30/2014 6:08:49 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax
There are probably only a handful of FReepers here that are more anti-Big Government than I am.

Your words on this thread belie your claim.

Big Government Shuts Down Little Girl's Hobby Kitchen.

Panaxanax cheers government shut down!

33 posted on 01/30/2014 6:12:58 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

“I may not drink the lemonade I purchased from their stand, but I will sure buy it”

I do that all the time. Stop over-reacting and read my post #32.


34 posted on 01/30/2014 6:15:22 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: P-Marlowe

Aren’t you late for school?


35 posted on 01/30/2014 6:21:00 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax

Now you are just being weird.

Just stop.


36 posted on 01/30/2014 6:27:48 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: panaxanax; xzins
Aren’t you late for school?

Did you read the article? Her kitchen wasn't shut down because the Health Department found unsanitary conditions, she was shut down because "lack the proper permits and licenses to run a food business, but according to local and state law she would have to either own her own bakery or have a kitchen separate from that of her parents "

She was shut down because of onerous and unnecessary big government regulations designed to prevent upstart young people from competing with big corporations who get regulations passed for the sole purpose of hindering competition.

In 1776 every 11 year old girl in America had at least 6 years of experience in making commercial baked goods. Nobody shut down the house kitchen because they didn't have the necessary permits.

You are so used to being compliant with unnecessary and onerous regulations that are designed to keep people down that you don't recognize it when the government overreaches and shuts down some little girl's dream. Instead your cheer on the food nazis.

I gotta be going so I won't be late for court.

37 posted on 01/30/2014 6:55:55 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: petercooper

DeathCare and Liberals are the major threat to public and national health, ya think?


38 posted on 01/30/2014 6:56:22 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: P-Marlowe; panaxanax
I gotta be going so I won't be late for court.

Are you still teaching that legal class for your firm?

39 posted on 01/30/2014 7:00:59 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: panaxanax
Expend all the spare time you want, but you know I’m right. It’s not about big government shutting down some poor little girl from making a few bucks. It’s about keeping people (little kids included) from getting sick.

I'm sorry, but that's just absolute bullshit. When you buy stuff from kids at a stand like this, you know exactly what you're getting. If you want to sue them for making you ill, then you're a part of what's wrong with this country.

The nanny state exists for their own sake, not yours or mine.

40 posted on 01/30/2014 7:49:09 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: panaxanax; xzins
. I never said to shut her down. If her kitchen passes a health department inspection for cleanliness then I’m in her corner all the way.

You cheered when the nanny state bureaucrats shut her down and now you claim that you would be in her corner if her kitchen passed a health inspection for cleanliness.

Either you didn't read the article or you are an idiot. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt pending your response to this post.

Let me emphasize that her start up business was not shut down because of any cleanliness issue. It was shut down because of onerous and unnecessary regulations regarding permits and fees and the fact that she didn't have a commercial location and a separate kitchen.

This girl is prohibited by child labor laws from learning this trade in a commercial establishment and it costs a lot of money to buy the ingredients to bake cupcakes in order to perfect her art. She is free to give these cupcakes away to the public, bit she is prohibited by government regulations from selling any of them to recoup the cost of baking them.

You applauded the regulators for crushing this little girl's dream and then try to claim to be the most anti-big government person on this forum.

Admit it. You were wrong to give a knee jerk thumbs up to the clowns who shut her down

41 posted on 01/30/2014 8:20:39 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: panaxanax

You asked for it amigo.


42 posted on 01/30/2014 10:05:14 AM PST by driftless2
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To: panaxanax; xzins
From the Daily Caller:

And before the government took her oven mitts, the sixth grader charged $10 for a dozen cupcakes and $2 for each specialty cupcake. However, she was also known to donate her time and sprinkles to charity. When a boy in her school was diagnosed with cancer in 2012, she donated cupcakes to help raise money for his treatment. Adding a personal touch, she made them orange and blue because he “was a really big Cubs fan.” Her largest order ever, amounting to 220 cupcakes, was also for a cancer fundraiser.

It should also be noted that her parents were willing to give in to every demand by the bureaucrats except to build a separate kitchen (which would probably have cost $20,000).

Cleanliness was not the issue with the Government. They insisted on a demand that the cupcakes be made in a kitchen where nothing else is cooked.

So you have your choice. You can apologize to everyone on this thread for cheering the government nazis on in their efforts to shut down this wonderful girl's dream or you can withdraw your claim to be one of the most anti-big government people on Free Republic.

This case is a blantant example of government overreach.

This kid is prohibited from working for someone else because of child labor laws. She started this business in order to be able to buy a car when she turns 16. But she is now shut down because her parents can't afford to build a new kitchen.

Of course, they could have resolved this problem the old fashioned way. They could have slipped a couple of hundred dollars into the inspector's pocket.

43 posted on 01/30/2014 11:58:43 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

Of course, they could have resolved this problem the old fashioned way. They could have slipped a couple of hundred dollars into the inspector’s pocket.
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Doubt you could ‘buy’ one of these bureaucrats off...Much more fun harassing people that can’t really defend themselves.

When the dynamic duo of BO/JOBAMA/HOLDER get through the Fed will be sending out ‘hit squads’ to round up all these 12 yo lawbreakers....

Ayn Rand 100% correct - make enough dumb laws and we can turn everyone into criminals.


44 posted on 01/30/2014 3:52:20 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Of course, they could have resolved this problem the old fashioned way. They could have slipped a couple of hundred dollars into the inspector's pocket.

And then fat Amy Yaeger would have blown it all on cupcakes.

45 posted on 01/30/2014 8:44:48 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If Chloe were an illegal alien on welfare and used the welfare money to front her cupcake business, the county inspectors would never have questioned her.

And if this were in Colorado, she could have laced the cupcakes with Marijuana (all at taxpayer expense.)

The laws only apply to the law abiding.

46 posted on 01/30/2014 8:57:14 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe; Guenevere; xrmusn; RebelTXRose; ZinGirl; driftless2; Cowgirl of Justice; zeugma

This was not some little girl selling a cupcake or two in front of her house. She and her Mommy, Heather, were operating a bakery without a valid license or health inspections.

Picture this, if you can. Two bakeries, one with a “Notice of Approval” from the Illinois Health Dept. posted in their front window, the other with a notice saying that they were NOT inspected and NOT approved to sell to the public. Which one are you going to eat at?

You can continue with your juvenile over-reacting arguments without me. I assure you that posting to me will be futile on your part. That’s all I have to say about this issue.

From FOX News:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/29/11-year-old-illinois-girl-cupcake-business-shut-down-by-county-officials/

“Amy Yeager, a health department spokeswoman, told the newspaper the county was only applying the law governing businesses that sell and distribute food to the general public.”

“The rules are the rules. It’s for the protection of the public health,” Yeager said. “The guidelines apply to everyone.”

Chloe Stirling:
“Well, I think it’s just the rules are rules and they kind of need to be followed. I really don’t blame the health department because it’s not really their fault,” she told the station.

“KSDK.com reported that many people have offered to open up their county-inspected kitchens to Chloe. The family is also considering building a second kitchen in their basement so she can continue baking.”


47 posted on 01/31/2014 3:52:04 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax

Thank you for that. I’ll confess I was picturing little Suzy and some friends out front with a cupcake stand on a Saturday. My apologies if I was harsh.


48 posted on 01/31/2014 4:20:24 AM PST by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Marcus

Chloe learned an important lesson, the kind you don’t learn in school.


49 posted on 01/31/2014 4:24:52 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: panaxanax
Picture this, if you can. Two bakeries, one with a “Notice of Approval” from the Illinois Health Dept. posted in their front window, the other with a notice saying that they were NOT inspected and NOT approved to sell to the public. Which one are you going to eat at?

Well now, there you go. I think it would be a great idea. She could have a little sign made up that says "Our kitchen has not been inspected by agents of the police state." That pretty much solves the problem. The customer is fully informed, and is able to make their own choice, rather than have their choices artificially limited by the aforementioned police state diktat.

As for the quote you mentioned, “The rules are the rules. It’s for the protection of the public health,” Yeager said. “The guidelines apply to everyone.” I believe the classic rendition of that is "we were just following orders". We've heard it before, and some of us would prefer to make decisions on our own, thank you very much.

Another way of looking at this is, would you rather buy a cupcake made by some impersonal conglomerate staffed with union labor that loads up their product with God only knows what kind of preservatives and artificial ingredients, or one made at home by a girl with a strong entrepreneurial spirit?

I know which way I'd go.

50 posted on 01/31/2014 6:37:10 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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