[wolfpat]

The whole immigration discussion is maddening. Obviously, none of these politicians on either side have actually talked to these illegal immigrants. They are NOT here to become citizens.

Many are here to earn what they can in 5 or more years, and then return home and live like kings for the rest of their lives.

The only way citizenship would be a concern to them is if it were made a condition for getting food stamps, Section 8 housing, health care, etc.

These are NOT law abiding people, and they are NOT like the people who actually stood in line to get their “Green Card” so they could be here legally.

Those WITH “Green Cards” are EXACTLY the kind of people we need here. Immigration reform should, for now, be a discussion on how these people can more easily obtain citizenship.

The illegal immigrants have a job here ONLY because they are illegal, and can be exploited outside the law. If they were made legal in some giant amnesty plan, then their value as workers goes to zero, and they’ll all end up on the public dole, while a new batch of illegals are imported. The rest of the discussions on immigration should center on those who are employing people who are here illegally. Personally, I would confiscate all of the belongings of these employers, and throw them and their families in the street. This would dampen the demand for illegal labor.

I’m sorry their home country is a craphole. But it is not our fault, and we shouldn’t pay for it.

/rant

[RC one]

The House Republicans’ position on immigration reform is to always look reasonable not accept amnesty for illegal aliens in way, shape, or form. Amnesty over our dead bodies. end of story.

[Pollster1]

. . . redefining President Obama as unreasonable, obstinate, and tyrannical

That is like redefining the ocean as large, wet, and salty.

[Liz]

Amnesty is Obamacare with Spanish subtitles (/snix).

[Maceman]

There is nothing reasonable about so-called "immigration reform."

In July 2003, then-congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colorado)gave Insight Magazine the following account of his conversation in Mexico with Juan Hernandez, head of the newly created Ministry of Mexicans Living in the United States. According to Mr. Tancredo:

“I asked about the purpose of the government agency he heads, since I had never heard of such a thing. He said its purpose is to increase the flow of Mexican nationals to the United States. I asked, ‘Why?’

"’It serves Mexico's needs,’ he said, and ticked off a list of such things as remittances to Mexico of $10 billion a year, which is 30 percent of the Mexican GDP [gross domestic product]. It provides employment for an exploding population, it alleviates social instability due to rising unemployment and it provides training for Mexicans, ultimately repatriating those skills back to Mexico.

"I responded to his final aim - repatriation of trained and skilled Mexicans back into Mexico - and asked, ‘Then your government would oppose amnesty for the illegal Mexicans in the United States?’

"He cried, ‘Oh no! We support amnesty totally. . . . by populating the United States with millions of Hispanics who are tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings with Mexico.’

"President Vicente Fox believes the U.S. border is a figment of the imagination. In fact, Fox and/or members of his government stated at one point that the borders of Mexico extend much farther north than currently drawn on the map.”