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DOJ Aruges to Court Against Rules to Prevent Foreigners From Voting
PJ Tatler ^ | February 12, 2014 | J. Christian Adams

Posted on 02/12/2014 2:15:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A federal judge had some tough questions for us in this important #NVRA #votingrights case brought by #KS & #AZ. tinyurl.com/l5jqwgl

https://mobile.twitter.com/BradleyHeard


21 posted on 02/12/2014 2:39:21 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Blood of Tyrants

How do we guarantee folks like Bradley Heard don’t show up and push for and get the opposite? nobody has explained to me as of yet how we could have a Con Con and not let the Leftists pack it with there people, or allow a bunch of moderates who will vote for things the liberals want because it makes them feel good?


22 posted on 02/12/2014 2:39:54 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: NEMDF

Thank you. I read those first few lines over and over again, thinking I had turned into a turnip.


23 posted on 02/12/2014 2:42:13 PM PST by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Truthfully, could it get much worse than a government who completely ignores the Constitution? The states will decide who is sent and how many before hand. Besides it still takes 3/4 of the states, no matter how many people each state sends, to ratify any amendments.


24 posted on 02/12/2014 2:43:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Take note, Heard argued both that Kobach can’t take steps to prevent foreigners to register to vote, and, that federal government power over state elections is supreme.

First, note that the Constitution's Supremacy Clause, Clause 2 of Article VI, means that only those federal laws which are reasonably based on the limited powers which the states have expressly delegated to Congress via the Constitution take precedence over state laws.

And with respect to constitutonally delegated power for the feds to regulate voting, the states have granted Congress the specific powers only to protect such privileges on the basis of race, sex, tax status, and age as evidenced by the 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amendments respectively.

Regarding the so-called right for non-citizens to vote, the Supreme Court clarified in Minor v. Happersett that citizenship does not automatically confer the right to vote.

However, the problem with state officials fighting federal power grabs, such as with this voting rights issue, is the following. I'd be willing to bet money, because I'd probably win most of the time, that state officials, including state lawmakers, are low-information citizens who don't know how to argue issues like this voting rights issue.

Finally, remember that the reason that DC policy-makers have been using the Supremacy Clause to successfully usurp state powers is the following imo. Federal bureaucrats have been taking advantage of the fact that multitudes of low-information voters don't understand that the feds don't have the constitutional authority to do most of the things that they are doing these days. This is because generations of parents have not been making sure that their children are being taught the federal government's constitutinally limited powers, particularly the 18 clause of Section 8 of Article I, as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood.

In fact, Judge Andrew Napolitano will read Section 8 to you in three minutes.

Judge Napolitano & the Constitution

25 posted on 02/12/2014 3:20:44 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Iron Munro; 2ndDivisionVet; patriot08; Marcella; AuH2ORepublican; Reaganite Republican; Impy; ...
"Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, relying on a United States Supreme Court opinion of last year, asked the federal Election Assistance Commission to permit him to ensure that only noncitizens were registering to vote."

WHAT ???

Seems pretty obvious that the writer of the posted article meant "citizens" instead of "noncitizens."

BTW, can someone please tell me what the Federal Election Assistance Commission is? Seems that the country needs it like it needs Obamacare; in other words, it's worse than useless, it's a disaster for constitutional government.

Holder's Dept. of (In)Justice is at it again, supporting the electoral fraud and cheating that enables 'Rats to steal elections they would otherwise lose. Unless the GOP learns how to counteract the 'Rats election shenanigans - which may manifest in a variety of different ways - the chances of electing another Republican president are slim and none!

Of course, what else can one expect from an (In)Justice Department that refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers for voter intimidation in Philadelphia?

26 posted on 02/12/2014 3:22:03 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
When we get to a Con Con, we need to add an amendment that states only US citizens are allowed to vote...

It's already in the law books of every state in the Union, all there in unequivocal language. Problem is that the left seeks to undermine enforcement of such laws by tying the hands of state election officials so that they can't ask for proof of citizenship for new voter registrants.

This federal "Election Assistance Commission" (note the oxymoronic name) seems to be a rather useful device for the left to block state vetting of voter citizenship credentials.

The ultimate goal of this leftist approach is to have as many noncitizens voting at the polls as possible in order to illegally inflate 'Rat vote totals to steal elections!

Please see my post # 26.

27 posted on 02/12/2014 3:45:54 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Alas Babylon!
If you are interested in learning:

Liberty Amendments Chapter One.

28 posted on 02/12/2014 3:49:34 PM PST by Jacquerie (An Article V state amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

D***! They are so determined to destroy the US ASAP. The “man of lawlessness” indeed.


29 posted on 02/12/2014 4:01:31 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

2014 we make him a lame duck. 2016 we take back the country.


30 posted on 02/12/2014 4:32:00 PM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Amendment10

“I’d be willing to bet money, because I’d probably win most of the time, that state officials, including state lawmakers, are low-information citizens who don’t know how to argue issues like this voting rights issue.”

I worked in Kansas a few years ago, before Kobach was elected to office, and followed him a bit through radio and papers. He is not a low information citizen/official.


31 posted on 02/12/2014 4:33:41 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: NEMDF; All
The first 2 lines: Is it true that someone is taking the side of allowing ONLY noncitizens to register to vote? I am confused.

It's a mistake in the posted article. Replace "noncitizens" with citizens and it makes sense.

32 posted on 02/12/2014 5:23:35 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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He is not a low information citizen/official.

Thank you for defending Kobach. Let me clarify the context of how I'm using the term "low-information."

I'm using it in the context of conservative Harvard Law School graduates, for example, who have been indoctrinated with the unreasonably broad interpretation of Congress's Commerce Clause powers established by Constitution-ignoring FDR's activist justices, as opposed to how the Founding States had intended for Congress's constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to be understood. And I'd say that includes a whole lot of otherwise very smart people.

33 posted on 02/12/2014 5:54:27 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not only politicans, lawyers need “rope” as well, got rope?


34 posted on 02/13/2014 3:15:34 AM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Illegals, criminals, rapists - dems want them all to have a vote:

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/holder-state-laws-bar-felons-voting-are-too-unjust-tolerate#sthash.nu3SbENf.dpuf


35 posted on 02/13/2014 4:01:30 AM PST by GOPJ ("Washington Redskins" - Keep the Name. Change the mascot to a potato. - FR hoosiermama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NAACP hosts Eric Holder advocating civil rights restoration for felons. What about guns, Eric?
February 13, 2014

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People hosted Eric Holder in recent days to give a speech on restoring the voting rights of felons once they are released from custody.

We asked recently if the NAACP was becoming the National Association for the Advancement of Colored Perps after their chapter in the Northeast U.S. came out supporting Massachusetts State Representative facing expulsion from his elected office. Then-Rep. Carlos Henriquez was convicted of beating his girlfriend for not giving him the sex he wanted. She was a college student who met the good Carlos, son of Obama’s Assistant Secretary of something or another Sandra Henriquez. The overwhelmingly Democrat-majority Massachusetts House expelled Henriquez – with only five voting to retain the scoundrel.

The New England Area Chapter (NEAC) of the NAACP’s President Juan Cofield urged Massachusetts State Representatives to retain Henriquez’s, comparing the beating of a woman who wouldn’t have sex to jaywalking.

So, here’s the NAACP hosting Eric Holder, the paragon of integrity, virtue and color-blindness, now pushing to grant voting rights to felons – well, specifically black felons, as he’s lamenting that more than 20% of blacks in some states can’t vote (for Democrats) because of felony convictions.

Hey Eric, if you want to talk about restoration of civil rights, if we are going to consider offering restoration of voting rights, shouldn’t we also consider restoration of Second Amendment civil rights for reformed felons as well?

Hello?

Hello?

Eric, are you still there?

Is that crickets chirping?

Here’s a clip from the Washington Post.

Reason Why Holder Suddenly Wants Felons To Vote: More Than 20% of Blacks In Swing States Can’t Vote Because They’ve Been Convicted of a Felony…

In Florida, more than one in five black adults can’t vote. Not because they lack citizenship or haven’t registered, but because they have, at some point, been convicted of a felony.

The Sunshine State’s not alone. As in Florida, more than 20 percent of black adults have lost their right to vote in Kentucky and Virginia, too, according to the Sentencing Project, a group that advocates for reforms to sentencing policy that reduces racial disparities.

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36 posted on 02/13/2014 9:01:47 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: justiceseeker93

We are going to have sheer Bedlam..


37 posted on 02/13/2014 10:35:54 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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