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Illegal Immigration and the Catholic Addiction to the Democratic Party
American Thinker ^ | February 14, 2014 | Robert Klein Engler

Posted on 02/14/2014 9:46:50 PM PST by moonshinner_09

Many Catholics in Chicago are addicted to the Democratic Party the same way a Hollywood actor may be addicted to heroin. For some, this addiction is so strong that it may be said, to turn a phrase, that the Catholic Church in Chicago is the Democratic Party at prayer. Consider the recent statement by Chicago's Francis Cardinal George. Ellyn Fortino reports in Illinois Progress that "Cardinal George, the archbishop of Chicago, joined Former House Speaker Hastert in support of a pathway to citizenship. He also called on the federal government to halt deportations. 'We should end deportations because they break up families, and the family, not the individual, is the basic unit of our society,' George told reporters in remarks after the event, held at DePaul University." Francis Cardinal George is not alone in his support for an end to deportation and for amnesty for illegal aliens. Timothy Cardinal Dolan of New York holds a similar view. Perhaps he too suffers from a Democratic Party addiction. In a letter to Congress, Cardinal Dolan writes, "As we have communicated in the past, we urge you to pass in its final form immigration reform legislation that ... establishes a fair and achievable path to citizenship [amnesty] for the 11 million undocumented in the nation." With all due respect, Cardinal Dolan writes this no doubt knowing that using Leviticus 19:34 to support amnesty for illegal aliens in the United States is to base a policy on a faulty translation. The Hebrew world "lagur" means "to reside temporarily," "to sojourn," or "to stay for a time." It does not mean that an invader must be allowed to stay indefinitely, or be granted citizenship. Illegal is illegal

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration

1 posted on 02/14/2014 9:46:50 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

There’s a very simple way to not break up families by deportation: deport the entire family. Problem solved.


2 posted on 02/14/2014 10:16:55 PM PST by unseelie
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To: moonshinner_09

Wow. Democrats murder little Catholics in the womb and they vote for them. Between them and jews voting for a known anti semitic dangerous islamist nd terror supporter narcissist like Obama, people have lost their marbles.


3 posted on 02/14/2014 10:17:39 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: unseelie

If we pay, we represent the children, not the parents. It is how jews did it in the OT, take the children away from the heathens.


4 posted on 02/14/2014 10:18:51 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: moonshinner_09; daniel1212; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ..
Many Catholics in Chicago are addicted to the Democratic Party the same way a Hollywood actor may be addicted to heroin. For some, this addiction is so strong that it may be said, to turn a phrase, that the Catholic Church in Chicago is the Democratic Party at prayer.

ping......

5 posted on 02/15/2014 5:16:31 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: moonshinner_09

Here we go again blame the Catholics for voting for the RATS.
Yes there are Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims and Buddhists who vote for the RATS. But there are a hell of a lot of Catholics who despise them. One should only look to the yearly pro-life demonstrations in Washington,


6 posted on 02/15/2014 5:43:39 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: moonshinner_09
I've never thought of the Constitution as a Protestant document, but in many ways it is, in its stress on individual responsibility and the rule of law. If one's parents are in this country illegally, it is their decision and their risk to their children, just as a felon risks his children by committing murder and then being sent away from them. Protestants tend to regard the rule of Popes and priests with suspicion.

Suppression of Catholic opinion in colonial American history: America's Catholic Colony.

7 posted on 02/15/2014 6:22:01 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: kenmcg
there are a hell of a lot of Catholics who despise them. One should only look to the yearly pro-life demonstrations in Washington,

That's what this article is about — those who do identify as Democrat even though the Dem platform runs completely counter to Catholic teachings. It's about the numbers overall. The chart below was from the Bush years; couldn't find one for Obama's election, but my guess is that it would have skewed even more Democrat among Catholics:


Pew research

8 posted on 02/15/2014 6:36:35 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: kenmcg
Yes there are Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims and Buddhists who vote for the RATS. But there are a hell of a lot of Catholics who despise them. One should only look to the yearly pro-life demonstrations in Washington,

Quite true. Nevertheless, Catholic hierarchy has been running interference on behalf of the Democratic Party since at least my seminary days in the 1960's. Likely, it's been much longer than that. That was when I started to pay attention.

Your observation remains axiomatic. I'm Catholic and lost all sympathy for Democrats sometime around 1969. It was shattered for all time in 1973 when every live birth became a cosmic failure for Democrats.

I would be interested in knowing why so many Cardinals and Bishops still want to run that interference since the foundation of the Democratic Party is made of platform planks anathema to what I understand as Catholic positions.

9 posted on 02/15/2014 7:15:29 AM PST by stevem
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To: moonshinner_09
Many Catholics in Chicago are addicted to


What a USELESS sentence!

What does MANY mean?

6?

1%?

More than 3/4???

10 posted on 02/15/2014 7:34:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stevem
Did I miss the start??


11 posted on 02/15/2014 7:36:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; moonshinner_09; daniel1212; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
For some, this addiction is so strong that it may be said, to turn a phrase, that the Catholic Church in Chicago is the Democratic Party at prayer.

It's a natural coalition.

The RCC rose to dominance by affiliating itself with the state. The state/church era in western civilization is a thing of the past, but using the state to perform a church's "social justice" ideals is not.

12 posted on 02/15/2014 8:00:41 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Albion Wilde
Great post.

It illustrates why there is a systematic attack on everything Born Again Christians believe in. The leftists don't have to worry about the RCC, their members are part of their base.

13 posted on 02/15/2014 8:03:18 AM PST by wmfights
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To: stevem
I would be interested in knowing why so many Cardinals and Bishops still want to run that interference since the foundation of the Democratic Party is made of platform planks anathema to what I understand as Catholic positions.

I believe implementation of "social justice" goals is the primary cause. Secondarily, the structure of this church is a centralized bureaucracy with a monarch at it's head as a result there is a natural affinity to similar structures and a distrust of those that prefer the opposite; a decentralized structure insisting on greater personal responsibility.

14 posted on 02/15/2014 8:09:42 AM PST by wmfights
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To: moonshinner_09
Consider the recent statement by Chicago's Francis Cardinal George. Ellyn Fortino reports in Illinois Progress that "Cardinal George, the archbishop of Chicago, joined Former House Speaker Hastert in support of a pathway to citizenship. He also called on the federal government to halt deportations. 'We should end deportations because they break up families, and the family, not the individual, is the basic unit of our society,' George told reporters in remarks after the event, held at DePaul University." Francis Cardinal George is not alone in his support for an end to deportation and for amnesty for illegal aliens. Timothy Cardinal Dolan of New York holds a similar view. Perhaps he too suffers from a Democratic Party addiction.

PFL

15 posted on 02/15/2014 8:44:43 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: moonshinner_09
Interesting, all but for the generalizations, as they give us a reason to not hear and rationalize away the truth the generalizations contain.

Having said that, let me generalize by saying that Catholics, all flavors of Protestant, Jews and Republicans, to name a few we gather around, have all been "infiltrated" by the serpent, if you will.

No group is immune, at this or any other time in this story, and denying the truth among us won't make it go away.

Better to focus on the problem within than to allow it to divide and conquer us.

16 posted on 02/15/2014 9:00:53 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: wmfights
I believe implementation of "social justice" goals is the primary cause. Secondarily, the structure of this church is a centralized bureaucracy with a monarch at it's head as a result there is a natural affinity to similar structures and a distrust of those that prefer the opposite; a decentralized structure insisting on greater personal responsibility.

You should pardon the expression: BINGO!

Couldn't have pinpointed it better.

It's sad that the Catholic hierarchy apparently believes that social justice should be imposed by government, when the Lord clearly wants it to be an expression of the individual conscience, and then delivered through votes for righteous representatives. What good is it to God, who reads hearts, if the government has forced its secular version of social justice upon the individual?

And how will God view the individual at Judgment who has lazily allowed the government to impose abortion on demand through taxation, or forced participation in the taxpayer funding of abortion and GBLT "education" not just in our schools, but also as a part of our foreign policy in nations where such behavior is a capital crime?

17 posted on 02/15/2014 9:35:42 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: stevem
“Cardinals and Bishops still want to run that interference since the foundation of the Democratic Party is made of platform planks anathema to what I understand”

Let's face it much of the hierarchy in the church is pro socialist. But in the last election Catholics who regularly attended mas voted for Romney, while those who did not attend voted for Obama. Had the conservative wing not stayed home in large numbers Obama would have been a university president today.

18 posted on 02/15/2014 9:46:20 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: Albion Wilde
It's sad that the Catholic hierarchy apparently believes that social justice should be imposed by government, when the Lord clearly wants it to be an expression of the individual conscience, and then delivered through votes for righteous representatives. What good is it to God, who reads hearts, if the government has forced its secular version of social justice upon the individual?

Amen!

And how will God view the individual at Judgment who has lazily allowed the government to impose abortion on demand through taxation, or forced participation in the taxpayer funding of abortion and GBLT "education" not just in our schools, but also as a part of our foreign policy in nations where such behavior is a capital crime?

This might anger some, but if the individual believes The Gospel they will be forgiven. However, can you image the pain you would feel to have Jesus say "I'm dissapointed in you".

19 posted on 02/15/2014 10:39:23 AM PST by wmfights
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To: wmfights; metmom
For some, this addiction is so strong that it may be said, to turn a phrase, that the Catholic Church in Chicago is the Democratic Party at prayer.

It's a natural coalition. The RCC rose to dominance by affiliating itself with the state.

That is true. But too much of society is morally conformism the evangelical church as well. May we be part of the remnant that resist.

20 posted on 02/15/2014 10:45:13 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Amen! brother.....


21 posted on 02/15/2014 10:57:03 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: daniel1212
May we be part of the remnant that resist.

Amen!

Resisting the tyranny of the state in it's assault on our beliefs is getting very difficult. obamacare forces the individual to pay for abortions through their premiums paid to insurers. Same sex marriage is a direct slap to God's moral code and ultimately churches will be forced to perform these ceremonies or lose their tax free status.

I believe that obamacare is a hidden blessing in that it is getting more and more Christians to look to exclusively Christian resources. I ended up joining Medi Share a Christian Healthcare Co-op. After doing so I found that there is also American Christian credit union involved with it. The trend I see is Christians will remove themselves from secular society as much as possible and pool their resources through credit unions and Co-ops in order to avoid participating in our own destruction.

FWIW, I think the Home Schoolers were the first to begin this process of separation.

22 posted on 02/15/2014 11:04:29 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Albion Wilde
Nice chart . Where is the original link?
23 posted on 02/15/2014 11:17:25 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Albion Wilde
I've never thought of the Constitution as a Protestant document, but in many ways it is, in its stress on individual responsibility and the rule of law.

I honestly would not see that as distinctively Protestant.

Protestants tend to regard the rule of Popes and priests with suspicion.

Rather then providing them the implicit assent the self-proclaimed infallibility conditionally ascribed to popes and councils. The fact is that both the church and this country began upon principled dissent from those who presumed of themselves above that which is written.

24 posted on 02/15/2014 11:24:14 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
Nice chart . Where is the original link?

I had it from an original source on my old computer, but that computer died. I looked for it via an image search, and found it buried under pages of more recent stuff.

25 posted on 02/15/2014 12:39:10 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: daniel1212
"I've never thought of the Constitution as a Protestant document, but in many ways it is, in its stress on individual responsibility and the rule of law."

I honestly would not see that as distinctively Protestant.


I was speaking more in terms of the culture at the time of the Founding, which had been going through the sharp conflict of the Reformation. Nevertheless, traces remain in the comparative cultures of the Prot & RC churches in America today.

26 posted on 02/15/2014 12:42:17 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Albion Wilde
I was speaking more in terms of the culture at the time of the Founding, which had been going through the sharp conflict of the Reformation.

This is a wee bit earlier:


 
 
 
Mayflower Compact
 
In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.

Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.

 
 
 

27 posted on 02/15/2014 2:40:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Well aware of the Mayflower Compact. Always good to read it again. It’s 150 years earlier than the Revolution and a bit off the point of this thread, however.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 3:33:22 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Albion Wilde
I had it from an original source on my old computer, but that computer died. I looked for it via an image search, and found it buried under pages of more recent stuff.

Thanks.

29 posted on 02/15/2014 7:04:12 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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