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Dems push Walmart to give up cigarette sales
The Hill ^ | February 15, 2014 | Ian Swanson

Posted on 02/15/2014 8:11:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A group of Democrats are urging Walmart to follow CVS Caremark and discontinue selling tobacco products.

The seven Democrats said Walmart, the nation’s biggest retailer, is also the nation’s biggest seller of cigarettes.

“We recognize the legality of selling and profiting from tobacco products; however, Walmart’s position as the nation’s largest retailer of any kind puts your company in a unique position to contribute to the health and well-being of all Americans<” the Democrats said in a letter to the company. The letter’s signatories included Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the number two Democrat in the Senate.

The letter stats that three quarters of adult smokers want to quit, and quotes former Walmart CEO Lee Scott as saying a “tremendous number” of Walmart shoppers smoke.

The letter was also signed by Sens. Tom Harkin (Iowa), Barbara Boxer (Calif.), John Rockefeller (W.Va.), Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.), Sherrod Brown (Ohio) and Richard Blumenthal (Conn.).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; arkanasa; california; cigarettes; connecticut; democrats; followthemoney; illinois; iowa; nannystate; ohio; rhodeisland; scam; smokingiscool; walmart; westvirginia
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1 posted on 02/15/2014 8:11:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Communist Democrats Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 02/15/2014 8:12:10 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Seriously, do they not understand just how much in taxes they collect in cigarette sales and, if they did eliminate smoking, just how much taxes would rise on everything else to make up for the loss in cigarette sales?


3 posted on 02/15/2014 8:13:20 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Tax wacky tybaccy.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 8:13:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just get your buddy, obumbler, to issue an executive order.

Show us our future.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 8:13:52 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


6 posted on 02/15/2014 8:14:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ll buy mine on the reservation. Take that Dems.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 8:14:47 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

then they also need to stop selling chocolate. and gum. and sugary drinks.

but keep selling abortion pills, and anal lube. that all makes sense.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 8:14:47 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I thought libs were all about choice.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 8:15:00 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Instead of legislating like they’re supposed to they prefer to stick their noses into everyone else’s private business.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 8:15:52 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow. What a list of political losers.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 8:16:39 PM PST by W. (New message for Obamacrats: STFU & GTFO!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Me too!


12 posted on 02/15/2014 8:16:40 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wait, I thought Democrats believe “my body, my right to choose” so that is not the case? I cannot understand how a person can believe it is fine to choose to murder a baby but oh no you can’t choose to smoke cigarettes...


13 posted on 02/15/2014 8:17:48 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: Jonty30
Looks like feds take in $25B/yr and states take in $10B/yr.

http://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/2010/06/22/how-much-is-the-government-making-off-of-tobacco/

14 posted on 02/15/2014 8:23:13 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Do folks suspect that Mister Obama still smokes tobacco?

If a person is given to... ahem... taking much credit, and if that person successfully quit smoking, would not that person let everyone know, over-and-over?

And, back to the original topic. I am a nonsmoker, and a scientist in a health-related field. There are few people more opposed to smoking than I.

That said, I am also opposed to taking away a relatively inexpensive source of tobacco products away from the big box stores. Why? Because that will take food out of the mouths of poor kids.

The poorer among us are more likely to smoke than are the wealthier among us. Tobacco addicts will get their tobacco, even at higher cost. Children of poorer families will be distributed less of the household income if more goes to tobacco.

Just my opinion, I welcome opposing views.

.

15 posted on 02/15/2014 8:25:13 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I can’t wait until these smoke Nazis tell the Indians to shutter their smoke shops. LOL! Pass the popcorn. This is going to get good.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 8:25:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ban tobacco and bring in the pot, eh?


17 posted on 02/15/2014 8:33:26 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The letter stats that three quarters of adult smokers want to quit,

As a long time smoker who gave it up 13 years ago, I have to admit every time I see someone puffing on the evil weed I get jealous.

18 posted on 02/15/2014 8:37:08 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Lurkina.n.Learnin

everyone who has has ever stood in a walmart trying to buy a pack of smokes understands that exercise in futility when the smart people spend $30 in gas to save $20 at the local Indian Rez and then then prove it by doubling down losing $40 on slots


19 posted on 02/15/2014 8:44:31 PM PST by bigheadfred
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20 posted on 02/15/2014 8:48:07 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

/snort

BTTT


21 posted on 02/15/2014 8:56:51 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Big Business leftists fighting with professional leftist complainers..

I love it!


22 posted on 02/15/2014 9:07:03 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: bigheadfred

True, but sometimes exercises in futility can be fun. Who am I to judge?


23 posted on 02/15/2014 9:10:28 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

exactly

if im gonna lose my ass it int gonna be in a walmrt


24 posted on 02/15/2014 9:13:38 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We live in the age of cave.

I’m predicting, like every other entity, Wal-Mart will cave to the wishes of the left’s political correctness.


25 posted on 02/15/2014 9:14:31 PM PST by Artcore
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I can’t wait until these smoke Nazis tell the Indians to shutter their smoke shops. LOL! Pass the popcorn. This is going to get good.

And commerce shall grind to a halt as numerous interstates are blockaded. :-)

26 posted on 02/15/2014 9:19:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: Svartalfiar

HA!


27 posted on 02/15/2014 9:20:34 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As I recall, Hitler hated smoking too.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 9:22:37 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Svartalfiar

Well done!


29 posted on 02/15/2014 9:25:58 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
you can buy birth control...you can buy condoms...you can probably buy pot at some point and all the alcohol you want at least in my state....

but sudafed?.....hand over your drivers license and if regular cigs?......we'd rather have you smoke pot...(iows, we've already gotten as much extortion money out of the cigarette companies as we can)

30 posted on 02/15/2014 9:26:55 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I really don’t see many people buying smokes at Walmart.

As an ex-smoker, I usually just bypass that one single cash register out of the 36 others that they have. (of which maybe 4-5 are open)

Why walk 500 feet across a parking lot to stand in line for 15 minutes to buy the same thing you can buy at the gas station across the street that sells at the same State Minimum price?


31 posted on 02/15/2014 9:58:23 PM PST by digger48
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

if i was walmart i’d say we’ll stop selling cigarettes when you get planned parenthood, the number one killer of babies in america, to stop doing abortions, even though it’s legal.


32 posted on 02/15/2014 10:25:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The shorter life-span of cigarette smokers should be seen as a benefit to the Leftist cigarette haters. They want population reduction and cigarettes should be the way to get it. Each person that dies from cigarette smoke is one less person to spend money keeping them alive in a nursing home. That gives them more money to live on the government without having to work.


33 posted on 02/15/2014 10:58:25 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dick Durbin is a busy body troll and sadly a senator from my home state of Illinoisistan. I can’t stand him.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 11:06:19 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Seaplaner
I am 100% sure that Obama is still smoking. And I'm also 100% sure that he sends one of his lackeys out to go buy his smokes. Probably by the carton.

Now WHERE might they be purchasing said smokes?

My guess is some local grocery or drugstore.

NOT in some dingy crime ridden DC neighborhood convenience store.

The bad publicity would be horrendous if the lackey was robbed while getting Prezzy's smokes.

35 posted on 02/15/2014 11:47:08 PM PST by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: Jonty30

Same deal happened in Germany about a decade ago. Big increase in cigarette tax was to occur....in two waves. Around nine months into first wave....the tax revenue guys get into an emergency meeting. Their anticipated collection rate had gone down by thirty to forty percent. Fair amount of money they were “missing”. Customs guys stand up in the same meeting and note that they were busting tons of people bringing illegal non-taxed smokes into the country. The dimwit Greens health minister felt this tax thing was a big success because smokes sales were rapidly decreasing around Germany.

Chancellor called big meeting, and cancelled the second wave of the tax increase entirely. As of today...recovery has not occurred, and that tax revenue lost is still a big deal.

The last thing you’d want to do as a gov’t....is lose cigarette sales. My humble guess is that the Dem’s would like to stir the pot and get more lobbyists to visit them and toss money into the campaign pot for November 2014. They need big cash this season.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 11:50:27 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Huskrrrr

Only when it is the “correct” choice ala the one THEY agree with.


37 posted on 02/16/2014 12:43:13 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Starstruck

Ha, glad to hear I’m not the only one. I’m forced to walk through their cloud of smoke if I’m unfortunate enough to arrive when they’re on break. I find myself breathing through my nose and scowling because just the aroma reminds me of what I’m missing...makes me crave one.


38 posted on 02/16/2014 12:47:16 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Norwegians did a 20 year study, comparing the costs of smokers, over-weight people and “healthy” people. The smokers cost the system the least. They also did not get lung cancer at rates currently stated. In fact, the rate of lung cancer for smokers is almost half the rate of those who never smoked. Large people cost the system more than smokers. The healthy ones who never smoked, ate the perfect diet and all that rot? They cost the most. They were more apt to run to a doc for the smallest thing, take “preventative” drugs, etc. WHO and other agencies went bonkers, frothing at the mouth over the results.

My great-grammie smoked all her life. She died at age 94. Not related to smoking, she was very old. Insurance says I will die around age 93, 94 if I quit smoking.

I am 54. Every decade, I got a check-up. My lung capacity is better than those who never smoked. I have no wrinkles, though I get crinkles around the eyes when I smile. My vitals are better than most young adults. I am on no medication of any sort. Neither is my husband. No workout, or any other trendy actions.

We do grow our own, mostly. We supplement with additive-free and tubes that are untreated. I do not know if that, or that we eat a high-protein organic diet with real fats, and other real food is why?

No matter. I like my smoke. I do not care what others think. We do not smoke inside. We have not done so for over 30 years. I like a clean house. I do not want to inflict our smoke on the grandsons or nonsmoking family and friends. We do smoke in our car. If a non-smoker, ( any child, of course), is in the car, we wait until we stop and smoke out of their way.

I am not justifying my smoking. I am not giving it up, even if it means a “speak-easy” sort of place will be the only way to have one. I highly doubt the gummits will cut off their cash cow. Or the medical society who gets a huge cut from the gummit.

Debbi.


39 posted on 02/16/2014 1:58:13 AM PST by hearthwench (Mom, NaNa, always ornery)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When smoking is outlawed in casinos’, then it’ll be gettin to the nut. Seriously, casino managers should be mildly concerned about smokers using their portable O2 for ashtrays.


40 posted on 02/16/2014 3:22:58 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Love how they backhandedly scold Walmart for “profiting” from cigarettes.


41 posted on 02/16/2014 3:45:21 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Strange....where are the anti-smoking zealots when it’s marijuana smoke they’re smelling? That smoke not only kills lungs but brains.


42 posted on 02/16/2014 4:50:46 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Jonty30

Just like the VMT tax they keep talking about after they realized, “Duh”, how are we going to make up the loss of gas tax from these fuel efficient cars.


43 posted on 02/16/2014 4:58:01 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: kelly4c

I grew up on a tobacco farm and then helping neighbors in tobacco as an adult. Quitting smoking (I’m a non-smoker now) has always been hard for me. I have always loved the way cured tobacco smells, especially in a barn right before you take it out.
You can easily grow, cure and roll your own. The government is idiotic, as usual.


44 posted on 02/16/2014 5:09:34 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wal Mart charges enough that most other places are preferable purchase points. I remember when Military Commissaries were one of the biggest cigarette outlets.


45 posted on 02/16/2014 5:45:16 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Ken H

What pisses me off is I am not allowed to deduct taxes already paid on my pack a day habit... so eff em, I just write the whole thing off as a medical expense.


46 posted on 02/16/2014 6:03:50 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Jonty30

Democrats work from emotion, not logic.


47 posted on 02/16/2014 6:55:23 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: jonrick46; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“The shorter life-span of cigarette smokers should be seen as a benefit to the Leftist cigarette haters”.


Every week a friend and I,both smokers,catch a movie and go to lunch.

She’s 80,I’m 81, and we’re well aware that we are going to DIE YOUNG but we still choose to smoke.

We just don’t give a damn.

.


48 posted on 02/16/2014 7:00:46 AM PST by Mears
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You two reckless kids have got to cut out this defiance. Maybe when you grow up you'll see the error of your ways.

We know it's never been about smoking. It's always been about testing how much purportedly free people will tolerate the government's controlling the minutiae of everyday life.

I don't give a damn either.

49 posted on 02/16/2014 10:17:23 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
But lefties despise Walmart anyway, so why do something you don't want to do trying to gain their approval? It would only last a day and they'd go back to harping about how you're screwing your employees.

Don't be a Bush (get co-opted by the liberal agenda, only to still be scorned as some kind of uber-conservstive.)

50 posted on 02/16/2014 10:40:11 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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