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Obama bullies small employers with bogus perjury charges, threats of prison
Coach is Right ^ | 2/16/14 | Doug Book

Posted on 02/16/2014 8:06:49 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

The most thoroughly corrupt Regime in the nation’s history has told the Treasury Department–read, I.R.S–that beginning immediately, the nation’s small business owners must “…”certify” that they are not shedding full-time workers simply to avoid the [ObamaCare employer] mandate. Officials said employers will be told to sign a “self-attestation” on their tax forms affirming this, under penalty of perjury.”

Could there be any example of outright thuggery which is more quintessentially “Barack?” Imagine employers being required to swear, “under penalty of perjury,” hand over heart and head bowed in supplication to The One that they, as business owners, “have not taken an action that they have every legal right to take.”

And could there be a less subtle way to inform the nations employers that...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; barackobama; deathpanels; employermandate; healthcare; obamacare; zerocare

1 posted on 02/16/2014 8:06:49 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
Say, anybody at the US Chamber of Commerce care to take a break from criticizing the Tea Party and stand up for small bidness?

Anydoby?

Anybody?

Bueller?

2 posted on 02/16/2014 8:09:04 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldpuppymax

..the little boy king is upset.


3 posted on 02/16/2014 8:09:17 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Oldpuppymax
Fascism.

It's what's for dinner.

4 posted on 02/16/2014 8:11:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Oldpuppymax

It’s been a long time since I was forced to read the communist manifesto. From which page is this tactic?


5 posted on 02/16/2014 8:11:48 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Not that this has anything to do with this thread, but, just what is a fatwa anyway?


6 posted on 02/16/2014 8:12:13 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldpuppymax

http://www.youtube.com/embed/BNRT0P-oZfw


7 posted on 02/16/2014 8:12:18 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

There is always a turd in the Zero’s punch bowl.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 8:13:00 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Texas Eagle

“Say, anybody at the US Chamber of Commerce care to take a break from criticizing the Tea Party and stand up for small bidness?”

Nope, the “Chamber of Amnesty” has bigger fish to fry.


9 posted on 02/16/2014 8:13:28 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

how long can we go on pretending to our children that there is some meaning in this existence


10 posted on 02/16/2014 8:16:19 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Texas Eagle

a fatwa is an islamic order from one of their religious Imam’s to engage in a “holy war” against some person or group


11 posted on 02/16/2014 8:16:38 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
We are in the beginning of Nazi Germany with the start of Hitler, King Obama. When our economy crash hits we will become a dictatorship. It is almost too late to make a change back.
12 posted on 02/16/2014 8:16:43 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Oldpuppymax

In other words, by orders of the Dictator, small businesses must go out of business if they can’t make a profit because of the burden of ObamaCare? If they don’t have standing in a class action lawsuit against this outrage, then our judicial system should be dismantled as totally worthless.


13 posted on 02/16/2014 8:19:34 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Oldpuppymax

Obama is a pile of human ecrement why he gets away with what he does leaves a lot to be desired.


14 posted on 02/16/2014 8:19:38 AM PST by MooseKnuckles ( People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.)
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To: Mr. K
Ahhhhhhh.

Not that I'm suggesting that has any relevance to what this thread is all about.

I'm jes sayin'.

15 posted on 02/16/2014 8:20:26 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Small employers soon to begin bullying Obummer with bogus presidency charges, threats of prison and deportation and other stuff.


16 posted on 02/16/2014 8:20:46 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
There is always a turd in the Zero’s punch bowl.

zer0 IS the turd in the nations punch bowl

17 posted on 02/16/2014 8:21:26 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MooseKnuckles
Obama is a pile of human ecrement why he gets away with what he does leaves a lot to be desired.

Comparing Ubama with a pile of human excrement is uncalled for.

There's no need to go insulting piles of human excrement.

I apologize on behalf of MooseKnuckles to piles of human excrement everywhere. And you know who you are.

Don't you, DU lurkers?

18 posted on 02/16/2014 8:23:31 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Vaquero

Let’s not forget career military people.


19 posted on 02/16/2014 8:23:55 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“There is always a turd in the Zero’s punch bowl.”

Yup...HE is the Turd!...


20 posted on 02/16/2014 8:26:58 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Oldpuppymax
"Do not blame the regime."



Oh, and it's not just the IRS being used to "convince" people to be quiet. From Frank Miele at Daily Inter Lake: "The FCC is about to launch a program they call a “Multi-Market Study of Critical Information Needs,” which according to Pai will “send researchers to grill reporters, editors and station owners about how they decide which stories to run."

The FCC was created by FDR as a tool to silence his radio critics. Looks like Obama has revived the tool. Political officers placed in press newsrooms is one scary development.

21 posted on 02/16/2014 8:34:39 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If a payment is a tax, and not a penalty, the Supreme Court has already ruled that tax avoidance is perfectly legal. See Gregory v. Helvering,1935, opnion written by Learned Hand, who said...

Anyone may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes.


22 posted on 02/16/2014 8:36:34 AM PST by NickRails
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To: Texas Eagle

Republicants don’t recognize fascism when it slaps them around, and democrips embrace fascism warmly.


23 posted on 02/16/2014 8:40:16 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
A Republican Party that was worth spit would make sure this was subject of a series of investigations by House committees.

Multiple reasons:

  1. It would keep the story in front of the electorate.
  2. It would be a chance to explain to the American people why the policies of Obama are crazy and destructive, and why the Republicans are the best hope of a defense against the damage and for a way to repair the damage
  3. It would generate tons of wonderful sound-bytes as the dimwitted socialist anti-work Democrats defended the policy.
  4. It would demonstrate that they care about something besides feeding their Potomac Fever.
  5. It would show everyone that they have a pulse.
  6. It would show the base that they cared.

To me, this is a no-brainer.

But I'm sure the Republican leadership can come up with all kinds of reasons why they can't do it.

24 posted on 02/16/2014 8:40:20 AM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Steely Tom

From where I am sitting, there is no more “Republican” leadership; they are complicit. Our government is no longer “ours”, it is theirs and they intend to keep it that way.


25 posted on 02/16/2014 8:45:16 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Hypothetical:

Joe owns a business, and because of lower demand for his product, Joe has to lay off one employee or cut his hours to part-time. Joe's healthcare bill would be reduced by this action.

How can he NOT be guilty of perjury?

And who decides whether he is guilty?

And why would Joe EVER hire another full-time employee?

26 posted on 02/16/2014 8:49:58 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Do not comply


27 posted on 02/16/2014 9:07:09 AM PST by semaj
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To: semaj

I sent this article and a letter to my Senator and Rep. in congress.

Hopefully they get complaints about this and finally wake up that this is much worse than anything Nixon ever did.


28 posted on 02/16/2014 9:27:44 AM PST by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Take the oath then show your books and how you intend to cut costs and increase profits so you can pay more taxes. It’s the patriotic thing to do.


29 posted on 02/16/2014 9:28:34 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ideas so good they are mandatory. :-)


30 posted on 02/16/2014 9:29:02 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Talk about a waste of money. The “reporters” only report what the white house tells them to report. Are they afraid there is about to be a revolt? Or maybe the guy from the feds is actually the pay-off guy, the bag man.


31 posted on 02/16/2014 9:32:15 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Texas Eagle
"Not that this has anything to do with this thread, but, just what is a fatwa anyway?"

It's the exact opposite of a skinnywa...

32 posted on 02/16/2014 9:33:00 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

How can you commit perjury by swearing and failing to do something that in itself was illegal?


33 posted on 02/16/2014 9:34:53 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Logical me
We are in the beginning of Nazi Germany with the start of Hitler, King Obama.
Don't forget Prince Andy who wants pro-life, pro-gun NYers to leave HIS state.That MFer.
34 posted on 02/16/2014 9:35:25 AM PST by oh8eleven (claimer)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Loyalty oath:


35 posted on 02/16/2014 9:39:08 AM PST by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Barry REALLY doesn’t want lots of stories coming out about how jobs are being lost due to Obamacare. This prevents any business owner from saying to any reporter “Due to Obamacare’s added expenses, I had to eliminate XXX positions”.


36 posted on 02/16/2014 9:42:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Who needs a Legislative or Judicial Branch of Gov’t? We have the Negro-In-Chief who has usurped these branches entirely. And we have about 50% of the population who supports him, because he is black and a Democrat.


37 posted on 02/16/2014 9:51:26 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Thus for those small businesses that must “shed” because of ObamaCare, their options are lie or go out of business?


38 posted on 02/16/2014 9:59:25 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: Oldpuppymax

In other words, small businesses must lie like Barack Hussein?


39 posted on 02/16/2014 10:22:18 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: oh8eleven

Little Andy can move back to Italy where his kind of gangsterism comes from.

It was a black day when the corrupt Cuomo family was allowed into our country, hundreds of years after better people made the heroic efforts to establish it as a land of individual freedom.

He can move to Sicily and run a protection racket, I’m sure that will make him a Big Man.


40 posted on 02/16/2014 10:23:54 AM PST by Regulator
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To: NickRails
"Anyone may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible"

So right, So corrrect and insightful. And the subbsequent IRS audit will not be connected with it in any way.This spake the boy king.

41 posted on 02/16/2014 10:43:06 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon (center)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as
possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the
treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes.
Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister
in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone
does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any
public duty to pay more than the law demands.”

Judge Learned Hand..... United States judge and judicial philosopher. He served on the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York and later the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.


42 posted on 02/16/2014 10:48:12 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Texas Eagle

I haven’t seen any business owners speaking up on this. I’m guessing they are afraid of losing their business.


43 posted on 02/16/2014 10:48:22 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Oldpuppymax

There is no law against a thing and suddenly it is illegal.


44 posted on 02/16/2014 11:18:52 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: tired&retired
More:

U.S. Appeals Court Judge Learned Hand famously wrote in Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F.2d 809 (1934) that,

Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes.

Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands:

Taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions.

To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant.

Justice Hand uses the word "cant" here. It's a hard to find the definition of this seldom-used word. Here it is:

cant noun

  1. insincere, especially conventional expressions of enthusiasm for high ideals, goodness, or piety.
  2. the private language of the underworld.
  3. the phraseology peculiar to a particular class, party, profession, etc.: the cant of the fashion industry.
  4. whining or singsong speech, especially of beggars.

verb (used without object)

  1. to talk hypocritically.
  2. to speak in the whining or singsong tone of a beggar; beg.

45 posted on 02/16/2014 11:49:56 AM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: PapaBear3625; Rusty0604
Yes, that is undoubtedly the purpose for this perjury thing. To keep business owners from saying WHY they are laying people off.

Beyond despicable.

46 posted on 02/16/2014 11:53:01 AM PST by what's up
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To: Texas Eagle
Not that this has anything to do with this thread, but, just what is a fatwa anyway?

Islamics "putting out a hit" on someone or some organization.

47 posted on 02/16/2014 12:31:31 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator
Islamics "putting out a hit" on someone or some organization.

Ah. Not that that's what's going on here.

48 posted on 02/16/2014 1:08:01 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Logical me

Maybe a comparison with the Communist regimes of Eastern Europe would be more accurate...and more in keeping with the ideological roots of the Democratic Party. They don’t have concentration camps and aren’t shooting people to get the others to comply, but they are trying to achieve total control by intimidating people through audits, fines, and excessive bail, with the threat of imprisonment (see Dinesh D’Souza and the filmmaker whose stupid video did not cause the attack in Benghazi).


49 posted on 02/16/2014 3:17:03 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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