Skip to comments.The People of the Ukraine, between a rock and a hard place. ~ Vanity
Posted on 02/19/2014 2:34:29 PM PST by GraceG
So it seems to me that the people of the Ukraine are being used by either pro-russian factions or pro-Europeon Union factions. But no one is talking about the one faction that doesn't want part in either arena.
Soros and our own state department has dumped a whole bunch of money into NGO (non Government Organisations) directly affecting the foriegn policy of another soverign nation.
No doubt Putin has his fingers in the Ukraine pie, but we aren't noticing it as much becasue the Russian media has been under his thumb after a series of "unfourtunate accidents and suicides". And won't hear much until all the hollow fanfare of Sochi is a distant memory.
So who is looking out for the Ukrainians who want their own country? From all the media reports I have read so far, I have heard the underwhelming sound of crickets chirping?
Is the populace of the Ukraine so used to having a boot on their throat they are now fighting to decide whose foot it will be and not to get ANY boot off of their throats?
It reminds me of the two parties here in the USA, more and mroe each day it seems like both boots belong to the same bosy with one boot labeled Establishment Democrat and the other one labeled Establishment Republican and the body politic is the "Establishment".
Who is fighting for Ukraine for the Ukrainians...
Nobody is fighting for them, because ‘them’ is very hard to define. Ukraine is as polarized today as the USA was during the Civil War. Language and culture separates them.
Right now, apparently talks are underway, so we can hope for an end to the violence.
What’s more interesting is Venezuela, where people are struggling and dying to get rid of Chavez’s successor.
The US shoulda supported the Iranian Green Rev.
“So who is looking out for the Ukrainians who want their own country?”
Well, Ukraine, since the breakup of the USSR, is an independent country. Obviously, it is too valuable for Putin, and others, to let it be.
Send the people of Ukraine and Venezuela our Constitution. We’re not using it.
Slaves to Cuba.
Soon to be here in the US.
Send the people of Ukraine and Venezuela our Constitution. Were not using it.
The Russians still station their Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol.
Ukraine has been a Russian satellite for hundreds of years.
Yeah, that sucks for them, but nobody is going to do anything about it.
But, are we really sure it DOES suck for them?
The great game is afoot again. In real terms Ukraine with be either a Russian client or a German (EU) client. And Russia is willing to do whatever it takes to ensure they stay a Russian client.
>>Language and culture separates them.<<
Wish we could be that lucky. Here in the US we have a third dimension that divides us — race.
In the long run, diversity sucks.
Ukrainian moms and pops in the west are sending money, clothing to brave (peaceful first) demonstrators at Maidan. Enough Russian “care”, they want to be free, independent and rather deal with western civilized nations than with Russian KGB commiesaaaars!
80% of Ukraine is uprising!
” and not to get ANY boot off of their throats? “
NBC’s richard engle has arrived on scene same as Egypt, Libya, Syria. It’s a tell.
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And the reality is that Galicia, Ruthenia, and the Bukovina will go to Germany, and the rest will go to Russia.
Same as it ever was.
When were the regions you mention ever part of Germany, Austro-Hungary...or even reaching back to the Holy Roman Empire of the Germanic Peoples?
If my limited knowledge of history is correct all of Ukraine was either part of the Mongol Empire or Russian Empire, unless we reach back to the time of the Original Roman Empire when the area was mostly Slavic and Celt tribes...not claimed or organized. Even the Goths settled there a while but never made an actual country of it.
>>>independent and rather deal with western civilized nations than with Russian KGB commiesaaaars<<<
Isn’t it quite ironic that ethnic Ukrainians has somehow dominated KGB ranks who were led by a Georgian?
Uninformed nonsense. Who’s spreading this crap, some Alex Jones?
What do you have against Ukrainians, anyway?
You are coming across more & more like a Russian, since you keep pushing the Russian Putin Party talking points.
Does it ever occur to you the Ukrainians may have some real & actual beefs with the latest Admin there? The man overthrew the constitution that was just put in place some years previous, about as soon as he got into office.
Soros, soros, soros. It's not that simple.
But are you --THAT simple minded?
All of Western Ukraine was in the Empire.
I'm very happy you prompted me to learn that!
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