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Obama Vs. Putin Who Is The Bigger Tyrant?
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 02/22/2014 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on 02/22/2014 6:05:35 AM PST by joeclarke

I have been watching the Ukraine protests, but as of this minute there seems to be a truce between Russian and the Ukraine, which has been staging protests not unlike America's inner cities - when they did not get their way.

However, there has been less bloodshed in the Ukraine. How did the American Federal Government react when the South rebelled? Not too kindly.A number of states, including California, have devised plans to secede/separate from their respective states. We can pretty much assume that, just as in the American Civil War, the Fed will violently oppose any thought of the separation of states or portions of states.

 I do not understand the motive or cause of the "girl" punk rock group Pussy Riot. They plan to get beaten and arrested, alert the media, and then follow through with getting beaten and arrested to prove -that they can be beaten and arrested?


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 02/22/2014 6:05:35 AM PST by joeclarke
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To: joeclarke

Putin hunts down and kills islamic terrorists...


2 posted on 02/22/2014 6:06:53 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
Putin hunts down and kills islamic terrorists...

but but but....HUSSEIN draws multiple red lines in the sand........

3 posted on 02/22/2014 6:10:42 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: joeclarke
Obama is CHUMP CHANGE when it comes to tyranny.

Putin, on the other hand, is a PRO at it. But, then, he is Russian and has been in Russian politics for many years.

Putin is a THUG. Obama is a CHILD compared to Putin. Obama doesn't have the personality, brains or backbone to come CLOSE to the "thug-dom" of Vladimir Putin.

4 posted on 02/22/2014 6:11:51 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: joeclarke

Oh, and I did not even include the Obamadontcare fiasco.


5 posted on 02/22/2014 6:14:31 AM PST by joeclarke (Semper Fidelis)
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To: joeclarke; cloudmountain
Putin By Far.

The U.S.A. Progressives knows Political Violence makes about Zero headway here.

So they do it slowly, with the Legal System.

If the Stormtrooper hammer came down like the Ukraine they would loose 100 years worth of work.

But in the end, the totalitarians always overplay their hand and they end up crashing too.

6 posted on 02/22/2014 6:14:53 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: joeclarke

Uh oh, Joe, you gone and done it, now.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 6:15:38 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: KC_Lion
Putin By Far.
The U.S.A. Progressives knows Political Violence makes about Zero headway here. So they do it slowly, with the Legal System.
If the Stormtrooper hammer came down like the Ukraine they would loose 100 years worth of work.
But in the end, the totalitarians always overplay their hand and they end up crashing too.

All true.

8 posted on 02/22/2014 6:16:34 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: joeclarke

Obama is a much bigger tyrant. Putin is and has been the same forever. Obama makes it up as he goes along and is a much bigger liar.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 6:16:51 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: joeclarke
Putin is very clearly the best ruler Russia has ever had since Tsar Peter. His only enemies amongst Russians are oligarchs and die-hard commies. Bork Obunga is the worst ruler any advanced state has ever had since Nero.

In pictures...

10 posted on 02/22/2014 6:24:45 AM PST by varmintman
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To: joeclarke
It's interesting watching this Ukrainian adventure. This is like their 3rd revolution in 10 years....and that's after becoming independent in 1991.

This is not the age of Stalin.

IMHO...These folks are like the ignorant USA folks who think FDR still runs the Dem party.

11 posted on 02/22/2014 6:27:26 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Navy Patriot

GOP Governor Candidate Speaks Out Against “Assault Rifles” and “Full Capacity Magazines”

February 21 2014
by Dan Cannon

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I’ve always said don’t just vote party lines if you want to protect your gun rights. There are some moderate Democrats, especially in state legislatures, who have been great friends to the Second Amendment. Likewise, there are Republicans who just about as anti-gun as you can be.

Case in point, California Governor Candidate Neel Kashkari made some disturbing comments about the Second Amendment.

According to SacBee,

“If you’re a single issue voter, and you just want someone to give you a full capacity assault rifle magazine, God bless you, you can go vote for somebody else,” Kashkari told a group of college Republicans at California State University, Sacramento. “I’m not your guy.”

“I do know philosophically that I deeply believe in protecting my own gun rights, and that means protecting your gun rights,” Kashkari said. “But I also believe that, you know, we need to be reasonable about things.”

Kashkari spoke broadly against “layering more gun rules on me, on responsible gun owners,” saying additional restrictions will not prevent gun violence or make people safer. But the former U.S. Treasury Department official said he does not oppose waiting periods or background checks, which he said “didn’t inconvenience me in the slightest” when he has purchased guns.

Keep in mind, this is supposed to be the conservative choice for California governor!

Kashkari has been taking a serious beating on his Twitter account, and to his credit he seems to be responding personally to most of the concerns. Although, I don’t think he’s really helping himself.

@2BPatriotic I was responding to a student question. He wanted me to say I would roll back all gun laws. #nope

— Neel Kashkari (@neelkashkari) February 21, 2014

@Shadowsbesideme yes, I am a gun owner myself and will defend all our rights

— Neel Kashkari (@neelkashkari) February 21, 2014

I’m really concerned about the future of California, which I fear before was already too far gone. Now that the so called “conservative” ballot options in that state are also becoming anti-gun I simply don’t know how California residents take back their state.

Despite what Kashkari says, in my opinion, and I’m pretty sure the opinion of most gun owners, supporting waiting periods, banning certain types of weapons, and magazine limits mean that you DO NOT support the Second Amendment. Period. It’s that simple.

Image Credit: Neel Kashkari Twitter Account

http://gunssavelives.net/politics/gop-governor-candidate-speaks-out-against-assault-rifles-and-full-capacity-magazines/


12 posted on 02/22/2014 6:27:31 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: joeclarke

I would prefer Putin over Obama any day.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 6:27:32 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: varmintman

Putin takes care of his countries interests. Obama is out to destroy our country. (Intentionally did not phrase is as “his country”)


14 posted on 02/22/2014 6:30:00 AM PST by bytesmith
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To: Sacajaweau

Want to understand what’s happening in the Ukraine? Try Google searches on “Ukraine Soros” and/or “Ukraine Monsanto”...


15 posted on 02/22/2014 6:32:40 AM PST by varmintman
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To: joeclarke
What about "Pussy Riot", you ask??

The problem with "Pussy Riot"...

You open the history book under 'G' for "groupies", and you go through the list of guys who've ever inspired groupie or fan phenomena, and you can at least understand most of it: Genghis Khan, Von Richtofen, Roberto Duran, Mick Jagger...

Anybody can understand a teenage girl or young woman going through some sort of a Mick Jagger groupie phase.

But wanting to be a George Soros groupie??? I mean, I'm sorry, that one leaves me cold, I could come closer to understanding being a Richard Nixon groupie....

http://www.tomatobubble.com/pussyriot.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/08/the-pussy-riot-flap/

16 posted on 02/22/2014 6:36:10 AM PST by varmintman
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To: varmintman

Soros is active in about 50 countries. That’s what he does. He’s an international businessman.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 6:36:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Soros is an international terrorist and menace. Try picturing some pig like that doing bear raids on the British currency while Churchill was PM of England.....


18 posted on 02/22/2014 6:50:17 AM PST by varmintman
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To: joeclarke

Hmmm. Hard to say. Russia/USSR has been in shambles for decades so it may be harder to make things worse than they are. The U.S. has had a much faster decline in heading for “shambles” over the past 5 years. Infrastructure in Russia has been shaky for a long time. Infrastructure in the U.S. is headed there pretty quick. In Russia, you have the elite/military and the peons. In the U.S. you have the elite, upper middle class, middle middle class, lower middle class, and then the peons. Looks like the upper, middle and lower are headed toward “peonship” pretty quickly. Most of us know Putin for what he is. Sadly, too many asshats in the U.S. still can’t recognize the “lyin’king” for what he is. Or isn’t. Now, where are those 600 sqft concrete “apartments”?


19 posted on 02/22/2014 6:50:42 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: joeclarke
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20 posted on 02/22/2014 6:54:52 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: baddog 219

you fit your name dude...thanks for the chuckle


21 posted on 02/22/2014 7:02:24 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: bytesmith

Putin DOES take care of his countries interests and other countries respect him for that. They may not agree with his actions or tactics, Putin does command respect.

barry is an punk. The world knows it and is acting accordingly.


22 posted on 02/22/2014 7:03:16 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: joeclarke

Putin, we know what he’s about. No surprises with what he does. It’s a given.

I find obama to be the worst tyrant. Americans allow him to be. They caved at the dumbest reason, the race card. Americans have no spine. They’ve had it too good and for too long thus don’t know the true meaning of hard times. If Americans had a spine and became physically active, obama would not have been allowed to do one eighth of what he has done. There’s no reason why our Country should be in the mess it is in.


23 posted on 02/22/2014 7:08:24 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: rktman

In Russia you can see cartoon teddy bears and squirrels on kiddie channels explaining kids the branches of government, futures, hedges and interest rates. Said bears and squirrels are also explaining them the way welfare state, entitlement and minority rights affects societies.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 7:11:08 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: joeclarke
I do not understand the motive or cause of the "girl" punk rock group Pussy Riot. They plan to get beaten and arrested, alert the media, and then follow through with getting beaten and arrested to prove -that they can be beaten and arrested?

What's the problem? Standard tactic of non-violent civil disobedience. Pussy Riot may not have much of a grievance, but their tactics aren't something new or unfamiliar. Whether it was the serious protestors you read about in textbooks or the wannabes on college campuses today, getting beaten and arrested to arouse sympathy is part of the program.

25 posted on 02/22/2014 7:21:36 AM PST by x
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To: joeclarke

They are both fine tyrants in their own way.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 7:33:28 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: joeclarke

“I know. Let’s have a spelling contest.”


27 posted on 02/22/2014 7:40:19 AM PST by onedoug
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To: joeclarke
From Wikipedia--- but I warn you beforehand this is nonsense:

"According to Tolokonnikova, Pussy Riot is "part of the global anti-capitalist movement, which consists of anarchists, Trotskyists, feminists and autonomists."[30] They use Situationist-style guerrilla performances.[31] Tolokonnikova stated:

"Pussy Riot's performances can either be called dissident art or political action that engages art forms. Either way, our performances are a kind of civic activity amidst the repressions of a corporate political system that directs its power against basic human rights and civil and political liberties.[32]"

This is nonsense. This little group of "7, up to 11" members doesn't seize worldwide publicity, no matter how entertainingly impudent they are.

IMHO, they are unknowing, expendable pawns to be used and sacrificed in a much, much bigger game.

28 posted on 02/22/2014 7:43:24 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
“They are both fine tyrants in their own way.”

True. One difference is that Putin was a communist, but wasn't so ideologically blinded that he couldn't see reality and the need for change. Obama is a communist who IS so ideologically fervent and blinded that he can't see the truth.

29 posted on 02/22/2014 7:53:50 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: joeclarke

Oh, and I did not mention Obama clamping further down on the economy by forcing up minimum wage in order to “rectify” Income Inequality.

And, how about O’s Department of Education Camp - making Public Schools even more irrelevant in the world?


30 posted on 02/22/2014 8:20:51 AM PST by joeclarke (Semper Fidelis)
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To: joeclarke

Both have tyrannical elements, but you have to judge them in the context of the countries they rule. By Russian standards, Putin is actually pretty mild. By American standards, Obama is Mussolini on steroids.


31 posted on 02/22/2014 8:21:00 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: joeclarke; Lazamataz
Are you kidding me!??!

Pussy Riot was the only part of the Sochi Olympics that I actually watched.

I thought they were great! I love it when they are all full of protesters rage and performance energy, bouncing around proving their point to the world thru the tears of pepper spray! But after the black jack of AHTHORITI smacked 'em in the ribs, then the bouncing stops, one looks at the other with Im sure, an "Oh $hit, that friggen hurt" in her eyes as everyone involved gets schooled!

I will definatly become a groupie if they promise to get whipped into submission an escorted away where ever they go.

32 posted on 02/22/2014 9:10:48 AM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: varmintman

That montage is great, but the site it’s posted at is looney tunes.


33 posted on 02/22/2014 9:30:03 AM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Or the Zero can see the truth but has a passive aggressive way of confronting it.


34 posted on 02/22/2014 9:40:01 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: joeclarke

Putin, of course. It’s no contest. Russia has a large, heavily armed military and an unarmed populace. America has a large, heavily armed populace and a military that doesn’t even like Obama.
Vladmir Lenin once said: “One man with a gun can control 100 unarmed people.”
Think about it.


35 posted on 02/22/2014 11:21:44 AM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy)
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