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Josh Lang's Photos of the Fuddy Crash Are Not the Same Plane
Butterdezillion's Blog ^ | 2-23-14 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2014 3:09:07 PM PST by butterdezillion

The photos of the Loretta Fuddy Cessna crash that Josh Lang provided to the media? They weren't of the same plane. The plane that crashed with Fuddy in it had a window between the door and the tail; Lang's photos don't. (I've got photos at my blog and in the first post I'll post them so you can compare the 2 planes)

Lang apparently had photos of a DIFFERENT plane ditching in the water and gave them to the media, claiming they were of this crash, and apparently the media didn't check out the genuineness of the photos...

Now why would Lang do that? Why would he post images of the area with no passengers or anything else in the water ANYWHERE, rather than taking photos of what was actually there and giving those to the media?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; butterdezillion; cessna; eligibility; fuddy; hi; naturalborncitizen; obamarecords
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1 posted on 02/23/2014 3:09:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

So, help me out here—a member of the conspiracy willfully posted photos of a different plane?


2 posted on 02/23/2014 3:10:52 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: butterdezillion
Lang's plane (close up; the original can be seen at http://khnl.images.worldnow.com/images/3099791_G.jpg ): Here's the photo of the plane from Puentes' video:
3 posted on 02/23/2014 3:12:20 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

And who the heck is Josh Lang?


4 posted on 02/23/2014 3:13:52 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; Venturer; little jeremiah; ...

ping.

The Fuddy story is falling apart. The photos that Josh Lang gave to the media, claiming they were of the Fuddy crash.... were of a different plane. His plane has no window between the door and the tail.

Please ping your lists. This whole story stinks of deception.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 3:15:10 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: 1rudeboy

Fritz Lang’s little brother?


6 posted on 02/23/2014 3:15:37 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: butterdezillion

The windows are there. In the blue-tinted images the aircraft is sitting much lower in the water and they’re harder to see, but they’re there.


7 posted on 02/23/2014 3:15:58 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: butterdezillion

Ok, so let’s assume the photos are of a different crash, just for the interest. How does that prove Fuddy was murdered? Seriously . . . someone connect the dots for me.


8 posted on 02/23/2014 3:18:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: butterdezillion

You need to look again. There is a window between the door and the tail. The door is still open. You can see the shadow from the open door is in front of the window.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 3:18:51 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: butterdezillion

I asked my husband who is a GA and he says they are not the same plane.
He gave a long explanation as to why, most of which went over my head.
Then he asked if there was any way to zoom in on the tail number? Because apparently you can find out who owns the plan, its manifest and type.


10 posted on 02/23/2014 3:20:16 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: butterdezillion

And here you go again, after multiple failures at making some conspiracy out of this...

Are there people around you that care for you?
What do they say about this fixation? Are there
some kind of outreach or therapy programs near you?


11 posted on 02/23/2014 3:20:43 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: 1rudeboy

Josh Lang is the pilot who says he and his girlfriend just happened to be flying close to Kalaupapa and called the tower. The tower operator asked if he heard an Emergency Locator Transmitter beeping, indicating a plane down. So Lang went and found the plane down and took photos of it, which he gave to the media. Or so he said. The photos he gave are not of the same plane that crashed.

The plane crash he said he photographed is the one in which HDOH Director Loretta Fuddy - who claims she saw Obama’s BC - was allegedly killed in.

One of the passengers aboard, Ferdinand Puentes, happened to have 2 GoPros - one of which was videotaping the passengers in the cabin at the time that the plane’s horn sounded - with which he videotaped what happened. A month after the crash ABC aired portions of his stills-pieced-together-to-make-a-video video in order to say people who doubted the official narrative were nuts.

But it turns out that there are STRANGE images in that video


12 posted on 02/23/2014 3:21:01 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion; hoosiermama; maggief; LucyT; Ray76

Butterdezillion, many thanks for this thread!

Something to consider also:

Why is the door closed on the Lang picture of the plane?

Its wide open in the puentes vid.


13 posted on 02/23/2014 3:21:29 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: butterdezillion

Ok, so some guy provides false photos = Fuddy was murdered?


14 posted on 02/23/2014 3:22:32 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: butterdezillion; null and void; Brown Deer; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; ...
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The Fuddy story is falling apart. The photos that Josh Lang gave to the media, claiming they were of the Fuddy crash.... were of a different plane. His plane has no window between the door and the tail.

Thank you, butterdezillion. (hoo boy buoy boy)

15 posted on 02/23/2014 3:23:10 PM PST by LucyT
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To: butterdezillion

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24246422/exclusive-pilot-describes-discovering-molokai-plane-crash


16 posted on 02/23/2014 3:23:10 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: WildHighlander57

The door is not closed. It’s open wide, but because of the angle of the photo, the sun, and the fact that the plane is sitting lower in the water you can’t see it easily. What you think is the window for the closed door is in fact the last window that shows to the left of the open door in the earlier image.


17 posted on 02/23/2014 3:23:56 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: butterdezillion

Same plane. There is a shadow running diagonally across the top of the fuselage caused by the top half of the split door. From the overhead angle, the top half looks like it is over the rear window, when that is not the case. Just a harmless little optical illusion, folks.


18 posted on 02/23/2014 3:25:51 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: 1rudeboy
"Come in low TC, so I can get the birth certificate lady..."


19 posted on 02/23/2014 3:25:59 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: butterdezillion
Well the information on the bottom plane where you can see the "N" number is:

N-number : N687MA Aircraft Serial Number : 208B1002 Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA Model : 208B Engine Manufacturer : P&W Model : PT6A SER Aircraft Year : 2002 Owner Name : LEIS AIR LLC Owner Address : C/O HAWAII PREMIER REALTY : 2265 HOONEE PL STE 110 HONOLULU, HI, 96819 Type of Owner : Corporation Registration Date : 13-Aug-2008 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard Approved Operations : Normal

To bad can't read the other "N" number

20 posted on 02/23/2014 3:28:32 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: butterdezillion

21 posted on 02/23/2014 3:29:36 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: humblegunner

The insanity around here is getting worse and worse.


22 posted on 02/23/2014 3:30:18 PM PST by EEGator
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To: PLMerite; Zuriel

OK then why isn’t part of the door visible & sticking out of the water; the lower edge of the door should be up above the roof line, as seen in the puentes vid ..


23 posted on 02/23/2014 3:31:36 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Tijeras_Slim

When handling a firearm in a helicopter, you should keep the muzzle pointed toward the floor. ;-)


24 posted on 02/23/2014 3:32:30 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Everyone knows that Rick would have called Icepick in on this one...


25 posted on 02/23/2014 3:32:47 PM PST by EEGator
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To: butterdezillion
I think you're right.

At a glance, it looks like the one in the Fuddy crash is the larger Grand Caravan.

The other one pictured looks like the smaller Caravan.

26 posted on 02/23/2014 3:33:16 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: WildHighlander57

You need to see an eye doctor. Seriously.


27 posted on 02/23/2014 3:34:01 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: PLMerite

Actually, the same window is quite easy to see. The poster thinks that window seen in the upper photo is the window on the door, but the reality of it is that the door is still up, but seen edge-on.


28 posted on 02/23/2014 3:34:39 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: PLMerite

you are looking at the wrong side of the door - look between the DOOR and TAIL

it appears she is right- there is no window there...

wtf???


29 posted on 02/23/2014 3:34:42 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: butterdezillion

So.. let’s review:

First, she was depicted in a coffin of the wrong size.

Second, her hands and a mysterious lump in the casket
were Photoshopped onto the news report.

Third, You FAIL at image manipulation and figure out that
you had inexpertly jammed them into a word processing program.

Fourth, you attribute the resultant problems as black-ops
hacking directed at you.

Next, you found a diver-assassin lurking in some video you saw on the news.

Now you figure there are different planes.
Oh, no.. not because you WANT TO BELIEVE real hard..
but because it’s the truth and you are the one to see it.

Cheers.

I like crazy people, wouldn’t have you any other way.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 3:36:50 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: WildHighlander57

The door is wide open in both photographs. Look again,


31 posted on 02/23/2014 3:36:57 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks Fred. I was just posting the bigger photo and realized I posted it on the other thread.

The pilots out there can give other, more technical reasons why these are not the same plane but I just know that I don’t see a window. lol

And I know that the Puentes video has Jacob Key sitting on the wing supposedly pointing at Lang’s plane in the sky and they’re all looking that way - but Lang’s photos don’t show any people ANYWHERE. I wondered how they could be the same incident so I looked more closely...


32 posted on 02/23/2014 3:37:30 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: WildHighlander57

Check again. The door is up and above the roof line. See the shadow on the fuselage? It’s from the door in the up position. The photo was taken edge-on to the door so only a line is visible. But the shadow confirms it.


33 posted on 02/23/2014 3:38:04 PM PST by Justa
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To: humblegunner

Do you and Alinsky sleep together too, or just shower together?


34 posted on 02/23/2014 3:38:12 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: JohnnyP

LOL—boy I needed that.


35 posted on 02/23/2014 3:38:32 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Mr. K

The window is right there behind the open door in BOTH photos.


36 posted on 02/23/2014 3:38:34 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 1rudeboy
And who the heck is Josh Lang?

Lang and his girlfriend Jaimee Thompson were flying in the area when ATC informed them a plane had gone down and asked them to look for it. They found the sinking plane and the floating passengers. By the time the Coast Guard arrived, the passengers had drifted about a mile from the wreck.

But, of course, if you really want to know who Josh Lang and Jaimee Thompson are, you should ask Alexander the Geek.

37 posted on 02/23/2014 3:39:26 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: svcw

Would your husband be willing to type in the reasons he has for saying that? My answer isn’t very technical: their doors and windows don’t match up. lol


38 posted on 02/23/2014 3:40:04 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: WildHighlander57

Perspective and camera angle, also, the plane is sinking Look again, it’s quite clear..


39 posted on 02/23/2014 3:40:33 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: EEGator

It’s a Rube Goldberg of a conspiracy theory. All this to get a low level municipal employee who was gonna...what, again? She must be harder to kill than James Bond.


40 posted on 02/23/2014 3:41:38 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: WildHighlander57

The door is open on the second photo, you can see the shadow of the door on the roof of the plane.


41 posted on 02/23/2014 3:41:53 PM PST by RareCTCnstve
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To: butterdezillion

There is a window between the door and tail on Lang’s photo.

Rotate your larger Lang photo so that the body of the plane is horizontal and you can see the window next to the open door. The plane’s door opens upward and the window IN the door frame and door frame casts a shadow across the top of the plane.

You can see the light of the door’s window is casting a lighter shadow in the middle of the door frame shadow across the top of the plane.

You are mistaking the first window by the tail as the door.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 3:42:09 PM PST by Felis cactus II
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To: Mr. K

Referring to the high-angle (bluish) images:

Starting at the rear, the first dark square thing is the last (rear-most) window. The line dark line above this window is the bottom edge of the top half of the split door, seen edge-on due to the high angle of this photo. It casts a shadow across the top of the fuselage, and you can see the window in that door in the shadow.

It’s the same aircraft. Any confusion is due to angles, light and shadow, and wishful thinking.


43 posted on 02/23/2014 3:42:16 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: John Valentine

Import the image into Paint, circle the part you think is a window, and post it here.


44 posted on 02/23/2014 3:42:28 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

All due respect to you bz. Aviation expert here. Those are pics of the same plane. I promise. Look at the shadows. Not saying there isn’t things fishy, just not these photos.


46 posted on 02/23/2014 3:43:57 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PLMerite

No they are not.

Lang’s plane has a door with a window that is slid towards the rear of the plane.

The plane in Puentes video has a split door with a window that is raised and a the rest of the door lowered to provide steps.

Big difference.


47 posted on 02/23/2014 3:44:07 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: SatinDoll

Not a big difference. No difference. There is no sliding door. Look again.


48 posted on 02/23/2014 3:45:16 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: SeminoleCounty

49 posted on 02/23/2014 3:45:30 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Felis cactus II

No, there would have to be 2 windows overlapping, for the end-most window to be the window between the door and the tail. No shadow can make 2 windows overlap.


50 posted on 02/23/2014 3:45:41 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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