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Weird… California City of 150,000 Rolls Out Armored Death Machine Complete with Machine Gun Turret
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 2-27-2014 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 02/27/2014 10:35:47 AM PST by servo1969

Welcome to Salinas, California. It’s a community of only 150,000 people and the owner of the military assault death machine.

That’s right, a city of less than a quarter million owns a rolling death machine complete with a machine gun turret on top. What the h-ll would they need that for?

Here’s another shot of the armored monster.

The Salinas Police Department made its new armored rescue vehicle available for public viewing on Tuesday in front of City Hall. Police said the ARV, acquired and customized at very low cost to the city, will provide protection and rescue capabilities to officers and civilians in high-risk situations. (The Californian)

The vehicle was obtained through the US government’s 1033 program established as a means of reallocating government equipment for use by law enforcement.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; calif; donutwatch; militarizedleo; militarizedpolice; obama; obamagraphic; salinas; teaparty; tyranny
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America's policemen are being encouraged more and more to operate as if they are at war.
Meanwhile, America's armed forces are being forced more and more to operate as if they are policemen.
This does not bode well.
1 posted on 02/27/2014 10:35:47 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

10-20 Molotov cocktails would put that sucker out of commission pretty quick.

Obama DID say he wanted to create an internal police force that was just as well armed as the military. I’m beginning to think this is what he meant.


2 posted on 02/27/2014 10:38:16 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: servo1969

Will that windshield stop a .50 BMG round?


3 posted on 02/27/2014 10:38:25 AM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon; windage and elevation.)
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To: servo1969

This is insanity using military weapons on the streets of America!


4 posted on 02/27/2014 10:38:40 AM PST by plainshame
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To: servo1969

Must be in response to all of those cop cars being blown up by the Cartels and their RPG’s /s.


5 posted on 02/27/2014 10:38:46 AM PST by JPX2011
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To: servo1969

Ever live in Salinas? GANGS X 10. It is harder to find a non-gang member.


6 posted on 02/27/2014 10:41:15 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: servo1969

All those surplus Iraq and Afghanistan MRAPs are going somewhere.


7 posted on 02/27/2014 10:42:13 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: servo1969

This is the continuing militarization of local police forces since the early 70’s.

This creates an “Us vs. Them” mentality and further alienates the police from the community they serve.


8 posted on 02/27/2014 10:42:36 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: servo1969

Noticed in the first picture ... Monster Confer Center (upper right of photo) and is probably short for Monster Conference Center. Maybe they were waiting on the delegates to arrive?


9 posted on 02/27/2014 10:42:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: servo1969

If these were ever commandeered by evil people, an aluminum can of thermite with a magnesium fuse, placed over the engine compartment, will turn that into a gigantic paperweight.


10 posted on 02/27/2014 10:43:20 AM PST by afsnco
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To: servo1969

Who exactly do they intend to “rescue” with this thing, and how?


11 posted on 02/27/2014 10:43:29 AM PST by Billthedrill
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off course the *S* is missing ... they’re undercover.


12 posted on 02/27/2014 10:43:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: servo1969

How much the sucker cost?
Where can I buy one so I can ship it to the Senior Center people of Salinas?

[Imagine? Police attacking a Senior Center coz seniors have an armored vehicle.]


13 posted on 02/27/2014 10:43:52 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: dainbramaged

“Will that windshield stop a .50 BMG round?”

It’s California, nobody has a .50 BMG rifle.

If the window is Alon, then no, a .50 won’t shatter it.


14 posted on 02/27/2014 10:44:07 AM PST by DBrow
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To: servo1969

They’ll burn with the proper encouragement.


15 posted on 02/27/2014 10:44:09 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: servo1969

The 1033 Program

The 1033 Program (formerly the 1208 Program) permits the Secretary of Defense to transfer, without charge, excess U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) personal property (supplies and equipment) to state and local law enforcement agencies (LEAs).

The 1033 Program has allowed law enforcement agencies to acquire vehicles (land, air and sea), weapons, computer equipment, fingerprint equipment, night vision equipment, radios and televisions, first aid equipment, tents and sleeping bags, photographic equipment and more.

Rules and Restrictions

The requesting agency must be a government agency that has a primary function of enforcing laws and with officers who are compensated and have powers of arrest and apprehension.

The property must be drawn from existing DoD stocks.

The receiving agency is responsible for all costs associated with the property after it is transferred, as well as for all shipping or federal repossession costs.

The recipient must accept the property on an as-is, where-is basis.

All property is transferred on a first-come, first-served basis.

Property may not be sold, leased, rented, exchanged, bartered, used to secure a loan, used to supplement the agency’s budget or stockpiled for possible future use.

Application Procedures

A state or local law enforcement or corrections official begins the process by completing a “Law Enforcement Agency (LEA) Application for Participation in the 1033 Program.” This application can be found at the following link: https://www.dispositionservices.dla.mil/rtd03/leso/forms.shtml.

After the application is completed, the agency official sends the application to the State Point of Contact (SPOC) for the respective state in which the applicant is located.

On approval by the SPOC, the application is sent to the U.S. Department of Defense Law Enforcement Support Office (LESO) in Battle Creek, Mich.

The LESO responds by sending a letter to the SPOC, who sends it on to the agency. This letter provides the agency with a unique number allowing the agency to access the LESO database and also identifies the law enforcement officers authorized to screen and receive property at all Defense Reutilization and Marketing Offices (DRMOs). In some states, all screening and acquisition of property is performed at the state level.

How to Find Available Items

There are two methods of screening excess property. The first is physically visiting DRMOs and looking over the excess property displayed. The second method would be reviewing the inventory listings of the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service (DRMS) through their website: https://www.dispositionservices.dla.mil/rtd03/leso/index.shtml.

For instructions on how to navigate the DRMS website, please contact your State Coordinator , call (800) 248-2742, Email asknlectc@justnet.org or contact Charlie Brune, Law Enforcement Project Manager, Federal Excess Property Programs, cell phone (512) 517-8064; Email cbrune@srtbrc.org.

Charlie Brune joined the staff of the Small, Rural, Tribal and Border Regional Center (SRTB-RC) on Sept. 1, 2009, as the law enforcement liaison for the Federal Surplus Property Program. SRTB-RC is one of centers in the National Law Enforcement Corrections and Technology Center (NLECTC) System, a program of the National Institute of Justice. SRTB-RC is a public safety program of The Center for Rural Development (CRD), based out of Somerset, Ky. Before joining NLECTC, Mr. Brune retired from the Texas Department of Public Safety as a captain with the Texas Rangers. Mr. Brune has more than 40 years of experience in state law enforcement involving several different state agencies. He has conducted numerous investigations into public corruption, money laundering, fraud and homicides. Mr. Brune has also served in the U.S. Army, obtaining the rank of staff sergeant. Mr. Brune graduated from Schreiner College in Kerrville, Texas.

https://www.justnet.org/other/1033_program.html


16 posted on 02/27/2014 10:44:23 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: servo1969

I fell save now!/s


17 posted on 02/27/2014 10:45:26 AM PST by mountainlion
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To: rarestia

I was wondering if maybe the Mexican drug cartels would sell us POM (plain old muricans)any left over RPG’s. That is the only local supplier I can think of.


18 posted on 02/27/2014 10:45:31 AM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: servo1969
Just preparing for the inevitable riots here.

Ukraine Infantry Carrier Vehicle Destroyed With Molotovs

19 posted on 02/27/2014 10:47:18 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: DBrow

No but a 50bmp in the radiator would make for an expensive fix.


20 posted on 02/27/2014 10:48:24 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Zeneta

Hmmmmmm, the Air Force is trying to eliminate the A-10 from inventory.

Do you suppose we could get a couple?


21 posted on 02/27/2014 10:48:58 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Salvavida

“Ever live in Salinas? GANGS X 10. It is harder to find a non-gang member.”

Better odds they have access to the appropriate hardware to stand on equal footing.


22 posted on 02/27/2014 10:50:13 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Zathras

Yup! Good thing us Ca citizens can’t own one, eh?


23 posted on 02/27/2014 10:51:15 AM PST by DBrow
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To: dainbramaged

Will the radiator take hits from a .357 or a 12 ga slug?


24 posted on 02/27/2014 10:51:37 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: DBrow

I feel so much safer. /sar


25 posted on 02/27/2014 10:52:22 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Rebelbase

Any heavy industrial tractor or truck could easily take that out...simply ram it, box it in...molotov it after. Its just a metal death box if things ever really SHTF. I’d not want to be a LEO sitting in there.


26 posted on 02/27/2014 10:52:31 AM PST by gwgn02
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To: null and void

I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought that.
De-milled A10 would be fun to fly!


27 posted on 02/27/2014 10:53:13 AM PST by Zathras
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To: servo1969

Lousy mileage.
Expensive fast wearing tires

Just what every cash strapped muni needs....


28 posted on 02/27/2014 10:53:52 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Monterey County Conference Center


29 posted on 02/27/2014 10:54:13 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: servo1969

Slowly, well maybe bot so slowly now, The Armed Forces are being replaced by “law enforcement agencies”. Those in turned, are being manned by degenerates with no morals, low character, and no principles, only a joy to kill and maim. And when the order is given to round up and slaughter the sheep, they will eagerly carry it out.


30 posted on 02/27/2014 10:54:37 AM PST by sport
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To: biff

After watching some of the videos from the Ukraine, it occurs to me that simple gasoline and bottles work wonders. If you coat the outside of that vehicle with burning fuel, the air intakes will fill with smoke and fire, and the metal will get hot as an oven. The piggies inside would have no choice but to evac or be cooked/smoked to death.


31 posted on 02/27/2014 10:55:13 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

realistically, how effective are those?


32 posted on 02/27/2014 10:55:29 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Zeneta; servo1969

More on the “1033 Program”

The Pentagon’s 1033 program: giving free military equipment to police departments around the U.S.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/pentagons-1033-program-giving-free.html

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The police in the United States have been steadily militarized over the past decade to the point of absurdity, as recently exemplified by police rolling out an armored personnel carrier (APC) to the Occupy Tampa protests.

Benjamin Carlson of The Daily covered one of the more unsettling recent developments in this militarization of police, the Department of Defense’s obscure “1033 program” which has given away almost $500 million in leftover military equipment to law enforcement in the fiscal year of 2011.

This year’s total is more than double the amount of equipment handed out in 2010, which was $212 million worth of military gear, setting a new record for the program.

Included in this distribution of military equipment are: armored vehicles, like the one seen at Occupy Tampa and in towns and cities across the nation, along with M-16 assault rifles, grenade launchers, helicopters and even military robots.

Yet the 1033 program looks like it is getting even worse, with orders for the fiscal year 2012 being up 400% over the same period in 2011 according to data provided by the Pentagon’s Defense Logistics Agency to The Daily.

If it keeps at this pace, that would mean $2 billion in equipment for American police departments in the fiscal year 2012.

The 1033 program was passed by Congress in 1997, which I found quite interesting as most of these programs have been pushed in the wake of September 11th, 2001, under the pretext of fighting the so-called “war on terror.”

However, even then, their justification was that it would be used to fight drugs and terrorism and since it began, over 17,000 law enforcement agencies have accepted $2.6 billion in military equipment, only having to pay for the cost of delivering the gear.

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more at the link


33 posted on 02/27/2014 10:57:04 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: servo1969
They say they appreciate comments. LOL

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34 posted on 02/27/2014 10:57:23 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: dainbramaged

No.


35 posted on 02/27/2014 10:58:43 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: nascarnation

It will be up for auction in a few years. Maybe a farmer or rancher could think of an application for it. Or something for the monster truck circuit.


36 posted on 02/27/2014 11:00:30 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: servo1969

“America’s policemen are being encouraged more and more to operate as if they are at war.”

A friend and I were talking over lunch a few weeks ago. He started talking about the growing militarization of police forces and sheriffs offices all across the US.

The weaponry and armoured vehicles aside, he said the biggest problem will be the individuals using those weapons and vehicles. He said that many have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. over there, they were taught to handle civilians as if they were potential terrorists or criminals.

A large number have come back and have got positions in law enforcement - but they still see many of us (even if were doing nothing wrong) as potential terrorists and criminals. They don’t look at us as people to protect FROM the terrorists and criminals. Accordingly, you see an increase in aggressive, shoot first-maybe we’ll ask questions later actions by these officers and deputies.

Officers shooting cats and non-hostile dogs, people being beaten and rousted during routine traffic stops for even the slightest sign of non-cooperation, no-knock raids in which property is destroyed, etc - and all the while, the police get off scot-free as Internal Affairs investigations will always vindicate the officer as being “threatened”, thus leading to his/her actions.


37 posted on 02/27/2014 11:00:52 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MNDude
See my response at 31.
38 posted on 02/27/2014 11:01:25 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ladyjane

I just had so much fun! I called the mayor’s office in Salinas. Talked to a very nice lady who was very gracious answering questions. LOL I asked her who the police plan to use the machine gun on. I asked, “are the police really paranoid or do they think there’s going to be an invasion? If no invasion, are they going to use it on citizens, on people going through red lights or on jay walkers?” She offered to connect me to the police department. LOL She had a good attitude.


39 posted on 02/27/2014 11:03:29 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: servo1969

can somone photoshop some dogs with red lines through them?(like WW2 fighter plane nose art)


40 posted on 02/27/2014 11:03:46 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: dainbramaged
I doubt it.

Might depend on the projectile in the load.

With the right bullet, 50BMG is devastating.

41 posted on 02/27/2014 11:04:29 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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'Weapons of war have no place on our streets,'
US President Barack Obama said on February 4, 2013

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42 posted on 02/27/2014 11:05:19 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: servo1969

Lot of gang bangers in Salinas and nearby Watsonville. They might need them when the Reconquista begins....


43 posted on 02/27/2014 11:07:36 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Salvavida

Ever live in Salinas? GANGS X 10. It is harder to find a non-gang member.”

so actually its a rolling bunker the police can hid in if they see a bad guy. and safely shoot your dog if it barks...

The citizenry has no friends in government, anywhere, only wanna be masters and overlords.


44 posted on 02/27/2014 11:07:51 AM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: rarestia

This is exactly what he meant. e wanted a militarized police force that could be used to quash any civilian rebellion.


45 posted on 02/27/2014 11:08:59 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Salvavida
Ever live in Salinas? GANGS X 10. It is harder to find a non-gang member.

That may be so; however I don't quite understand how exactly this "light tank" can be used against gangs. Do they intend to do a drive-by on a gang member's residence with this? Do they plan to find three or four suspects standing in a street corner and then unleash the hail of lead onto them from the roof-mounted machine gun? What would be the legal operational use of this vehicle? I just don't see any, unless the "legal" part is no longer a requirement for them.

46 posted on 02/27/2014 11:09:17 AM PST by Greysard
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To: servo1969

American local cops moving to gestapo with heavy death machines. America is finished the land of the free and millions will lose their life trying to reinstall their rights as guaranteed by the Constitution. Doubt it? Well that is to be expected since at least 2/3 of Americans are brain dead. Just look at Europe for a mirror picture of our Country and it’s future.


47 posted on 02/27/2014 11:11:38 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Zathras

De-milled???? WHY???


48 posted on 02/27/2014 11:11:57 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: servo1969

It’s gonna suck dog when some psycho steals that and starts shooting up the city.


49 posted on 02/27/2014 11:13:07 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: servo1969

They have their wonderful new hammer. Now they will go looking for nails. It is amazing how everything can start to look like nails.


50 posted on 02/27/2014 11:13:19 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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